Guilds and why I hate them
We are an international guild, 10 aussies/asians, 20 europeans, 20 americans.
Raids used to start when it was most convenient for the guild leader so he could get in one set of attacks in before midnight and a second set after midnight. The rest of the guild usually has only one chance of attacking. We have agreed on starting at different times now. So it's not the 3 players with the best strategy/toons who get the best rewards.
Raids have 4 phases and they have different difficulty settings. If you haven't got the right characters phase 1 is a pain in the derrière and phase 4 is basically just an enraged version of phase 2 and 3 with a very survival time. So, players wait for others to finish phase 1, which takes pretty long since everyone wants to get a lot of damage in to get better gear, then phase 2 and 3 are over pretty fast leaving the rest to do there tiny damage in phase 4. So it's not the 3 players with the best strategy/toons who get the best reward, but those who can be online during phase 2 and 3. Guess what noone is sharing strategies since they fear you could close up damagewise.
What if some players manage to overcome this and place themselves in the top3 most of the times. During a few weeks they will have a few furnaces and all that other unobtainable gear and do even more damage than the rest of their guild, so they will either have to leave the guild and gather in an elite version of the f2p guild or are stuck at Tier V with their current guild. The concept of guilds destroys teamwork. On the other hand this is just us, a free to play guild with a few dolphins. The Whales and Krakens have their own guilds and do Tier VI and VII. Maybe EA is trying to make this game less appealing to Free2Play users.
Raids used to start when it was most convenient for the guild leader so he could get in one set of attacks in before midnight and a second set after midnight. The rest of the guild usually has only one chance of attacking. We have agreed on starting at different times now. So it's not the 3 players with the best strategy/toons who get the best rewards.
Raids have 4 phases and they have different difficulty settings. If you haven't got the right characters phase 1 is a pain in the derrière and phase 4 is basically just an enraged version of phase 2 and 3 with a very survival time. So, players wait for others to finish phase 1, which takes pretty long since everyone wants to get a lot of damage in to get better gear, then phase 2 and 3 are over pretty fast leaving the rest to do there tiny damage in phase 4. So it's not the 3 players with the best strategy/toons who get the best reward, but those who can be online during phase 2 and 3. Guess what noone is sharing strategies since they fear you could close up damagewise.
What if some players manage to overcome this and place themselves in the top3 most of the times. During a few weeks they will have a few furnaces and all that other unobtainable gear and do even more damage than the rest of their guild, so they will either have to leave the guild and gather in an elite version of the f2p guild or are stuck at Tier V with their current guild. The concept of guilds destroys teamwork. On the other hand this is just us, a free to play guild with a few dolphins. The Whales and Krakens have their own guilds and do Tier VI and VII. Maybe EA is trying to make this game less appealing to Free2Play users.
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This all they need to do is tweak it so everyone is rewarded the same chests and just ranks mean more tokens and credits.
This one little change will change guilds from a secondary arena between 50 people to an actual guild that is ok working as a team not just for selfish reasons.
Yes they need to tweak rewards a bit but they are so much better than when it was first set up.
The only issue really is that a lot of people struggle with phase 1 because they dont have cleansers and ewoks. People will get them though and it will even out. It just works out better right now for the people that spent time/effort/money on a group that were pretty useless but now have a great purpose.
Anyone interested in joining my guild? I'll supply you my ally code if so. I really want a guild full of people who play often and participate. I don't care what level you are, or arena rank. I'll accept anyone who loves the game and plays often.
I agree
I'll join the parade of people agreeing with this. Give everyone (all 50 members) a nice selection of gear (like the gear that is given to the top 3 people, not the gear given to number 40).
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and some rewards for guild rank in the pit
If you have a bad guild that starts raids without notification or don't attack until the stage that is the easiest, join a new guild. If you have a bad team or just started, join a guild with other newbies and do easier raids. It seems like a lot of people are in bad guilds or just want to be carried.
I just want to be able to participate. I've been in 2 guilds, both **** and just used me to unlock raids that because they wouldn't announce, I couldn't join in. So I help unlock raids, but don't get to participate and get no rewards. So after 2 bad guild experiences, I decided to start my own... But no one will join it. At this rate, I'll never even see a Rancor in this game. So thus far, I'm thinking guilds really, really suck.
I got censored in this post, despite not really cursing. So I decided to clean it up myself, lol
This. This right here is some **** fine, old fashioned common sense.
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You broke my brain stop it
I think there should be some kind of stage bonus too. So those guys that work over the Guards would get something that the guys who wait for the Rancor would not. The Rancor is only the first raid though, so it's a good bet that if it doesn't get tweaked, the next one will.
Some of the other issues people have with guilds got nothing to do with the game though. If your Guild leader can't bother to even send a simple in game message giving notice of when he's going to kick off the next raid, then ask him nicely to, and if he still won't, find another guild where they communicate.
You want to make tiers for damage, I can get behind that. But make everyone get the same gear? That's just asking for people to abuse the system. If you have a team that is similar in power depth to everyone else, you will get the top spots based on your strategies. If you are consistently getting lower ranks, you are getting carried and should join a guild if less powerful teams. If your guild is full of jerks and starting at off times or only attacking in certain stage, get a new guild.
First lol read this:
all they need to do is tweak it so everyone is rewarded the same chests and just ranks mean more tokens and credits.
This one little change will change guilds from a secondary arena between 50 people to an actual guild that is ok working as a team not just for selfish reasons.
After:
Look I'm a mega whale lol and I have no problem taking my prize from another. But I'd prefer not to fight with guildies but rather work with them to gear everyone so we can push for herioc.
Even if someone does 20k damage I want them to be rewarded because we invited them into the guild and we will help them gear. We are also on line app all the time talking so more of a feeling of community and wanting to.