Qui-Gon and Teebo when raiding

Darth_Keith · September 10, 2016 3:12PM

I've been wondering what is better to do in this situation:

Teebo is stealthed and it is Qui-Gon's turn.

Do you Quick Strike with Qui-Gon for a 65% to remove 30% turn meter?

or

Do you Harmonious Assault with a 25% chance to call Teebo with a 100% chance to remove 100% turn meter?

benacrow · September 10, 2016 3:15PM

Always his basic. What usually happens is you call Phasma or someone else non-TM and then you're just mad...

scuba · September 10, 2016 3:18PM

benacrow wrote: »

Always his basic. What usually happens is you call Phasma or someone else non-TM and then you're just mad...

This. Sometimes I will gamble and use harmonious assault if Qgj hit is gonna put captian or rancor to 100% tm, most times it doesn't work.

benacrow · September 10, 2016 3:21PM

scuba wrote: »

benacrow wrote: »

Always his basic. What usually happens is you call Phasma or someone else non-TM and then you're just mad...

This. Sometimes I will gamble and use harmonious assault if Qgj hit is gonna put captian or rancor to 100% tm, most times it doesn't work.

Lol yup he's like 'THIS. IS. SPARTA' but kicks himself into the hole...

Imbicatus · September 10, 2016 3:24PM

It depends on the TM of GC or the rancor. If they are almost full I'll call the assist and take my chances, as the 30% TM from the basic isn't likely to make a difference. If they are 75% or less I'll use the basic.

scuba · September 10, 2016 3:25PM

benacrow wrote: »

scuba wrote: »

benacrow wrote: »

Always his basic. What usually happens is you call Phasma or someone else non-TM and then you're just mad...

This. Sometimes I will gamble and use harmonious assault if Qgj hit is gonna put captian or rancor to 100% tm, most times it doesn't work.

Lol yup he's like 'THIS. IS. SPARTA' but kicks himself into the hole...

Lol. Of course it is even worse when he calls stealthed teebo and tmr get resisted.

benacrow · September 10, 2016 3:26PM

scuba wrote: »

benacrow wrote: »

scuba wrote: »

benacrow wrote: »

Always his basic. What usually happens is you call Phasma or someone else non-TM and then you're just mad...

This. Sometimes I will gamble and use harmonious assault if Qgj hit is gonna put captian or rancor to 100% tm, most times it doesn't work.

Lol yup he's like 'THIS. IS. SPARTA' but kicks himself into the hole...

Lol. Of course it is even worse when he calls stealthed teebo and tmr get resisted.

Oh naturally yes. If there's anything Teebo can do best, it's giving you false hope before kicking you in the nuts.

kello_511 · September 10, 2016 4:13PM

My team is teebo, qgj, GS, elder and phasma.

If teebo is stealthed, I almost always call assists. Maybe that's not the best route, but it works for me.
Even if he doesn't call teebo, he could call elder to give my team (and teebo especially) the tm they need.
For GS attack, he has a 75% chance of calling someone who can help turn meter for me (only phasma won't help). Qgj has 50/50 as GS and phasma won't help.
Often I find that they will call elder, following which elder takes his regular turn and then teebo is up.

Kyno · September 10, 2016 4:19PM

Depends on where the captains tm is at, but with my lineup I will use harmonious assault, if it's teebo great, if it's ee still not bad, I run 5s and rex...so if it's 5s that sucks, if it's rex it's good...so basically 3 out of 4 are a good option and I will take those odds. I do this because you don't know if the next turn teebo will be stealthed or not.

But that's only when captain is below around 50% TM and I know teebo's stealth special is still in cool down.

GuyfromSyracuse · September 10, 2016 10:48PM

Best is when Rancor takes out everyone and leaves these two. It's game on! Did pretty good with Fives and Teebo too

benacrow · September 10, 2016 11:00PM

GuyfromSyracuse wrote: »

Best is when Rancor takes out everyone and leaves these two. It's game on! Did pretty good with Fives and Teebo too

I once did 10% on rancor T7 with only QGJ and 5s it was awesome.

Boba_The_Fetter · September 11, 2016 12:49AM

If rancor has low TM and speed down then QGJ assist attack. I found in the long run it worked out better

Nightwolve · September 11, 2016 1:01AM

I don't always do the basic. If Potency is high by both u can use qgj's secondary, if tm of enemy is lower than 25%

Obs0lete · September 11, 2016 1:43AM

It depends on the circumstances. Here are some in which I would call assist. In all cases, obviously this is only when Teebo is stealthed.

If Captain or Rancor is close to max TM anyway, as others have mentioned, he is likely to take the next turn anyway, so you have nothing to lose.
If you have another TM reducer (e.g., Rex, Scout, Chewie) aside from Teebo, plus Elder. Odds are good that you will wipe TM or gain enough to let Teebo go up again.
If you have Dengar and Elder. There is a chance that Dengar will call an additional assist, for which 3/4 (Teebo, Elder, or even QGJ himself) will be helpful for TM.
If you are sure Teebo will get a turn and has Scramble Tactics ready just in case he comes out of stealth.

My current raid team is Teebo, QGJ, Elder, Dengar, Phasma, but once my Scout is ready, Phasma will be redundant (crit chance mods on Dengar in that case).

benacrow · September 11, 2016 4:37AM

Obs0lete wrote: »

It depends on the circumstances. Here are some in which I would call assist. In all cases, obviously this is only when Teebo is stealthed.
If Captain or Rancor is close to max TM anyway, as others have mentioned, he is likely to take the next turn anyway, so you have nothing to lose.

If you have another TM reducer (e.g., Rex, Scout, Chewie) aside from Teebo, plus Elder. Odds are good that you will wipe TM or gain enough to let Teebo go up again.

If you have Dengar and Elder. There is a chance that Dengar will call an additional assist, for which 3/4 (Teebo, Elder, or even QGJ himself) will be helpful for TM.

If you are sure Teebo will get a turn and has Scramble Tactics ready just in case he comes out of stealth.

My current raid team is Teebo, QGJ, Elder, Dengar, Phasma, but once my Scout is ready, Phasma will be redundant (crit chance mods on Dengar in that case).

On the contrary to the first point, QGJ comes in clutch when you need him to, esp on the rancor. If QGJ lands the TM down when he rancor would normally take the next move, that's another chance to get Teebo to attack before he moves and you can start his TM over again.

I'd rather take QGJs 65% chance to remove TM over the 25% to call Teebo.

Nothermike · September 11, 2016 5:50AM

If Rancor is slowed with decent tm left before his turn and Teebo will have his stealth ability available on his next turn, take the assist.

danrussoa · September 11, 2016 6:15AM

I always use his assisted attack when available. Deals bigger combined damage and always solo p1. Teebo, qgj, fives, phasma and rex. YMMV pending on roster.

Nightwolve · September 11, 2016 7:33AM

Obs0lete wrote: »

It depends on the circumstances. Here are some in which I would call assist. In all cases, obviously this is only when Teebo is stealthed.
If Captain or Rancor is close to max TM anyway, as others have mentioned, he is likely to take the next turn anyway, so you have nothing to lose.

If you have another TM reducer (e.g., Rex, Scout, Chewie) aside from Teebo, plus Elder. Odds are good that you will wipe TM or gain enough to let Teebo go up again.

If you have Dengar and Elder. There is a chance that Dengar will call an additional assist, for which 3/4 (Teebo, Elder, or even QGJ himself) will be helpful for TM.

If you are sure Teebo will get a turn and has Scramble Tactics ready just in case he comes out of stealth.

My current raid team is Teebo, QGJ, Elder, Dengar, Phasma, but once my Scout is ready, Phasma will be redundant (crit chance mods on Dengar in that case).

Don't call assist if the rancor's tm is nearly full! That's a mistake, in my eyes.

Fodder1978 · September 11, 2016 10:00AM

I would never use harmonious assault, even if Slimey's meter is almost full, when I could still have QGJ have a better than 50/50 chance of getting a tm hit on him. I'd maybe risk it on tier VI because it's possible to claw things back under control, but no way on heroic.

It's arguably a mistake even when the meter is almost empty, since it can fill so quickly and a probable non tm hit will only fill it faster. You'd quite likely be making it harder to maintain tm control not easier.

It's tempting to land extra damage or run the odds of a cloaked Teebo hit on a bonus attack, but QGJ's odds of a last second tm hit are better on his basic, especially with his potency over 100%. And the number of times Teebo has had a "resisted" result... Assuming he even ends up being the lucky toon with a bonus attack...

The stakes are too high to risk taking bigger gambles, normally once tm is lost everything starts to fall apart pretty quickly.

Nightwolve · September 11, 2016 10:50AM

If your potencies (i use Rex too) are very high, u can use harmonious attack when tm is very low and the Rancor has the speeddown buff.

Silleck · September 11, 2016 10:53AM

From someome who can solo the raid.
NEVER use any of his specials, unless the door is down.
Always always use his basic.
If your EE or teebo is fast enough 30% = another round of teebo
Once again ONLY use QGJs basic
It does not matter how much TM rancor has. Only use his basic.

Alexcloudsurfer · September 11, 2016 11:04AM

Silleck wrote: »

From someome who can solo the raid.
NEVER use any of his specials, unless the door is down.
Always always use his basic.
If your EE or teebo is fast enough 30% = another round of teebo
Once again ONLY use QGJs basic
It does not matter how much TM rancor has. Only use his basic.

Yes completely agree. Stricly basic

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