I feel that hp pools and healing abilities need an increase because as of right now a team stacking speed and damage dealers will wipe 1 if not 2 of your characters in their first turn. By increasing the health pools it will actually add more strategy to the game and diversify squads on relying on tanks and healers more
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We need to make it so that a healer/tank team can do just as well as a full damage team and vice versa. The way I see it is there is pretty much no place for healers in arena right now
I see what you did there.
Don't anyone hold their breath waiting for defense to mean anything. In a thread on the reddit, the dev who posts there responded to a complaint about its near-uselessness basically saying it was "working as intended" and was this way so they could bring us something Awesome™ Sometime™.
Apparently making dozens of characters and builds almost useless for months is not seen as a problem.
LMAO I love it.
I saw an interesting b uild in GW last night. It was all 7* Purple except Daka was only 6* Teebo lead QGJ,Lumi,Daka, FOTP.
Talk about a stealth team they were stealthed most the time. It was not hard to beat, but it was definitely cool.
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/94-false-dilemma (even has a Star Wars reference!)
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/170-strawman-fallacy
You forgot to add turn manipulation
If you're having trouble with your HP & healing abilities in GW then bring a real tank, more than 1 healer and a B squad.
Remember before the barriss nerf people were complaining they'd run out of time in arena now battles are 1min to 3min with these speed teams i'm fairly certain this was intended. I don't want to go back to the old way of just trying to run the other guy out of time so you don't lose your rank. On top of that arena team and gw team were the same back then so yes it was less diversity and strategy.
This subject has been debated many times. While I might have exaggerated, its not far from the truth. We've already had a phase where damage was not on the same level as HP and it resulted in stall teams. The same thing would happen with raising HP and the top characters will still stay at the top.
There is plenty of room in the game for balance that would allow a variety of builds to be viable. The choice isn't "my Poe went first and my DPS guys do 12k in a round so your team is half-dead before you get a turn" or "get rid of all damage dealers and everyone runs 5 healers". That's fallacious **** and contributes absolutely nothing of value to any discussion.
We have already seen 3+ healer sets in arena that were designed to stall out the arena clock. I don't think its in another galaxy of thought to assume if you increase HP and healing, we will be back to stalling set ups.
I see that you are ignoring my opinion because it doesn't fit your ideas. That's cool. Trying to discredit me because you don't agree. Not cool. Calling out people for using illogical fallacies while also using them is pretty hypocritical.
I'm ignoring your opinion because, as I already said, it is fallacious. There is a middle ground between every team using multiple healers to stall the clock out, and what we have now, which is fights that are over in 15 seconds.
A primary job of a game development team is striving for balance. That is what people want. And it is entirely achievable.
Oh, and by the way, there is nothing wrong with building a defensive team that sometimes wins by stalling out the clock. It's a legitimate strategy. Yes, imagine that, it should actually be possible for a high DPS team to NOT win every time! Imagine!
There are sports teams that win by basically preventing the other team from scoring. In baseball it's called "good pitching and defense". There is no reason we couldn't have teams here that sometimes win by preventing the other team from knocking them out. Every time? Of course not, I didn't say that. Sometimes? Why not?
Right now we basically have close to ZERO defensive teams, because they have close to ZERO chance of actually winning. EVERY high-level team is based on speed, one-shot DPS and turn meter manipulation. A lack of diversity leads to stagnation and people leaving.
Because with the current arena setup, some one could stay in the #1 position and stall for weeks if it is removed.
Saying fights lasting 15 seconds is fallacious. People have and will resort to stalling teams.
The lack of diversity could be from many. Characters that outperform others is the real problem. Giving Rey more HP isn't going to solve the problem of her being faster and harder hitting than others. People will still use QGJ, Poe, FOTP, Rey, and Geonosian Soldier because they are simply better than other characters.
Not very. I'm a very small spender, and even then my fights are done within 30 secs easy, 45 tops unless I'm stalling just before 6.
Yes, and why are they better than other characters? Because the game is unbalanced in favor of speed and high DPS while defense and armor are mostly meaningless. That's the entire point.
They can make defense matter without going to your straw man extremes of "everyone uses 5 healer sets and no one wins."
I can't remember the last time I fought an arena team that wasn't some combination of droids, one-shotters, mass-AoE and Poe. It is excruciatingly boring.
Hey my droids rule lol. Seriously though... I tried different combos before going Poggle, Poe, droids rout. Couldn't break into top 100 at all. Now I'm fighting top 10. 13 I think last night, could have been higher but I was sniped down. Tried an ability block team, heavy aoe team... Only thing that worked was speed and dps
If they raise HP by 1%, the game wont stall, but you don't solve the 1HKO teams. If they raise it by 1000%, it'll be imposible to kill anything. But some where in the middle there is s point where the HP increase removes the one hit no, but not big enough to stall the game
It sounds like you are in a cookie cutter leader board. I face counter attack teams and stun teams quite frequently.
There really isn't a point in defensive teams for arena. You just need to reach your target point before 6 PM. In spite of that, there are still ways to set up a good defensive team.