alright guys n gals...been using this team for 2 weeks now. i can take #1 from a p2p poe team if i'm active during rush hour. i am usually driving home, so i have to finish my arena fights 10 minutes before payout, which spells disaster most of the time for me. in this particular instance, poe went first before i could attempt to stun anyone, so a bit of luck was involved in that no one died on my team. in the coinflip where i win and dooku moves first, i have a much higher chance of winning. anyhow, without further ado, i'll let the pictures speak for themselves:
look at the massive hp bars on those suckers! you can surely bet they are at least 6*-7*. this guy usually shares rank 1 with @Rogan_Ban84 and @ZoloRunningstrider and some other dude that i can't recall (but he's heavily p2p with a 7* qgj lead with the usual poe crew). again, it's not a 100% guaranteed win, but i'm able to survive the first round most times and about 50% of the time, i pull out a 4v5 win. otherwise, i'm wiped out in 40 seconds or less. just my anecdotal experience and totally and completely biased view
(oh and the best part is this team is 100% farmable, kthx)
i gotta say for the record though, @Rogan_Ban84 your team just crushes my team like a styrofoam cup on some attempts when i try to fight you for rank 1. you and @ZoloRunningstrider occupy the top spot way more often than i do. i just have so much fun with my team and that to me, is worth more than crying (unproductive) about poe than trying to find a way to counter (productive) him.
yet, when you look at it, does it really matter? the ai most certainly would have offed my han if he were 6*, but that little bit of hp gained from 7* really turned the tide for me. without him, i would have lost. i would say my team is almost synergized properly. the difficulty comes in trying to fit in another FO character (i have a max geared, almost 7* kylo and a fotp in the making...hard mode farming). once dooku and foo both hit 7*, i expect my win rate to increase a little bit more. once the cap is lifted to 80, even if poe isn't nerfed, this team should be even better able to counter as dooku will be the ONLY character to hit turn 6 and foo will hit turn 7, which is a tie with poe, giving me more options to dismantle the opposing team.
This team comp is contingent on whether Han survives Round 1 or not. If he does, you have a good chance of winning. If he gets one shot-killed before he taunts, then it's game over...
alright guys n gals...been using this team for 2 weeks now. i can take #1 from a p2p poe team if i'm active during rush hour. i am usually driving home, so i have to finish my arena fights 10 minutes before payout, which spells disaster most of the time for me. in this particular instance, poe went first before i could attempt to stun anyone, so a bit of luck was involved in that no one died on my team. in the coinflip where i win and dooku moves first, i have a much higher chance of winning. anyhow, without further ado, i'll let the pictures speak for themselves:
look at the massive hp bars on those suckers! you can surely bet they are at least 6*-7*. this guy usually shares rank 1 with @Rogan_Ban84 and @ZoloRunningstrider and some other dude that i can't recall (but he's heavily p2p with a 7* qgj lead with the usual poe crew). again, it's not a 100% guaranteed win, but i'm able to survive the first round most times and about 50% of the time, i pull out a 4v5 win. otherwise, i'm wiped out in 40 seconds or less. just my anecdotal experience and totally and completely biased view
(oh and the best part is this team is 100% farmable, kthx)
You've shown that it's quite easily possible to do, judging by the amount of your health vs opponent.
I wanna say hopefully this will shut the noobs down but I don't have my hopes up.
This team comp is contingent on whether Han survives Round 1 or not. If he does, you have a good chance of winning. If he gets one shot-killed before he taunts, then it's game over...
yes, exactly right, which is why i run lumi. it's still a coin toss, but it's not a mirror matched coin toss. i agree with anyone who says that if i ran a poe (instead of han) to counter poe, my chances of winning increase, even if i don't win first turn taunt. that's undeniably true.
You've shown that it's quite easily possible to do, judging by the amount of your health vs opponent.
I wanna say hopefully this will shut the noobs down but I don't have my hopes up.
i personally do not care if poe gets nerfed or not. it won't affect my enjoyment of this game. i just know that when the cap gets lifted to 80, my team will have more of an advantage and i'll be in a better position to win against poe, nerfed or not.
You've shown that it's quite easily possible to do, judging by the amount of your health vs opponent.
I wanna say hopefully this will shut the noobs down but I don't have my hopes up.
i personally do not care if poe gets nerfed or not. it won't affect my enjoyment of this game. i just know that when the cap gets lifted to 80, my team will have more of an advantage and i'll be in a better position to win against poe, nerfed or not.
The first "definitive Poe counter" post was clearly a troll.
This one shows how easy a Poe team can be beaten with another tank with taunt.
The next one will show how a poe team can be beaten with no taunt.
Eh... "easy" is probably an overstatement. If the A.I somehow targets and kills Han before he taunts, then the match is over in less than a minute. Trust me, I know what I am saying (and reizse concurred in his response).
But yes, this team comp does give some fighting chance of countering a Poe-led, dps team.
This team comp is contingent on whether Han survives Round 1 or not. If he does, you have a good chance of winning. If he gets one shot-killed before he taunts, then it's game over...
Yes, I think so too. Whenever I face a Han team, I learned that I have to kill him asap, or silence him with a Lumi blast so he won't taunt. Else it's a gamble for round 2 Han is neat for this.
If that opponent would swap out Leia (now that her bug is fixed she's less OP) and put in a 7* poggle... You'd be dead.
that's definitely a possibility. i think against poggle, i would lose han + 1, but still have enough turns to win in the end. han doesn't do the most damage on my team, so his dmg isn't what i'm counting on. if this particular player started subbing in poggle, i would lose a couple of days until i figured kylo is a better fit than lumi. once under 50% hp, it's a guaranteed kill for me. then it's up to rng on how the crits and assists proc.
the only other teams that come close to being as threatening are the poggle, poe + droid teams. the nice part is that those teams are also 100% farmable and just as deadly imo. i struggle quite a bit in arena since i don't refresh for extra attempts
Leia just isn't op anymore since she was fixed is all this shows. Replace leia with phasma leader, or old ben, or dooku, or so many other options, and you are getting wiped in the first turn. The whole point of Poe is to get more attacks then your opponent can handle before their turn, and leia using stealth first move is just a waste
yet, when you look at it, does it really matter? the ai most certainly would have offed my han if he were 6*, but that little bit of hp gained from 7* really turned the tide for me. without him, i would have lost. i would say my team is almost synergized properly. the difficulty comes in trying to fit in another FO character (i have a max geared, almost 7* kylo and a fotp in the making...hard mode farming). once dooku and foo both hit 7*, i expect my win rate to increase a little bit more. once the cap is lifted to 80, even if poe isn't nerfed, this team should be even better able to counter as dooku will be the ONLY character to hit turn 6 and foo will hit turn 7, which is a tie with poe, giving me more options to dismantle the opposing team.
LOL.....
At 80 their QGJ will allow ALL allies thebspeed boost, and they will have all chars at 6 or 7. And they Poe will always, every time go before your 7 turn folks.
yet, when you look at it, does it really matter? the ai most certainly would have offed my han if he were 6*, but that little bit of hp gained from 7* really turned the tide for me. without him, i would have lost. i would say my team is almost synergized properly. the difficulty comes in trying to fit in another FO character (i have a max geared, almost 7* kylo and a fotp in the making...hard mode farming). once dooku and foo both hit 7*, i expect my win rate to increase a little bit more. once the cap is lifted to 80, even if poe isn't nerfed, this team should be even better able to counter as dooku will be the ONLY character to hit turn 6 and foo will hit turn 7, which is a tie with poe, giving me more options to dismantle the opposing team.
LOL.....
At 80 their QGJ will allow ALL allies thebspeed boost, and they will have all chars at 6 or 7. And they Poe will always, every time go before your 7 turn folks.
First turn speed bonuses don't work and there are no plans to change that.
yet, when you look at it, does it really matter? the ai most certainly would have offed my han if he were 6*, but that little bit of hp gained from 7* really turned the tide for me. without him, i would have lost. i would say my team is almost synergized properly. the difficulty comes in trying to fit in another FO character (i have a max geared, almost 7* kylo and a fotp in the making...hard mode farming). once dooku and foo both hit 7*, i expect my win rate to increase a little bit more. once the cap is lifted to 80, even if poe isn't nerfed, this team should be even better able to counter as dooku will be the ONLY character to hit turn 6 and foo will hit turn 7, which is a tie with poe, giving me more options to dismantle the opposing team.
LOL.....
At 80 their QGJ will allow ALL allies thebspeed boost, and they will have all chars at 6 or 7. And they Poe will always, every time go before your 7 turn folks.
First turn speed bonuses don't work and there are no plans to change that.
Wow I didn't know that. Makes Asajj leader skill amazingly useless and QGJ lead as well.
So this was a 10% chance of you actually winning?
Ofcourse I beat up the same teams every now and then, if Leia was swapped for GS you would have been dead anyway.
But yeah it is beatable, only very low chance every time again.
439-259-888 I have a bad habit of editing my typo's after posting
Anyways, I'm happy people try different ways. I'd like to do it too, but the game is a slow grind, it's difficult to try different teams unless you are a whale. If I decide now I want to try, say, Teebo, I would not have him ready until 3-4 weeks. By then, meta could have changed. And even if not, if Teebo happens not to work, I'd had wasted 3-4 weeks, several million credits, ability mats and GW tokens in a useless toon. This doesn't help to find solutions against mainstream easy to farm teams and toons like Poe, Kylo, Geo, etc. I tries an unorthodox droid hybrid build with Luminara, without Poe and Poggle, and it worked well vs aoe teams with Sid and Kylo, but it's useless vs Poe fast dps. And now I have a setback, I'd be better if I had gone maibstream with the Po-Poe combo
Replies
Man....give credit when it's due...
yet, when you look at it, does it really matter? the ai most certainly would have offed my han if he were 6*, but that little bit of hp gained from 7* really turned the tide for me. without him, i would have lost. i would say my team is almost synergized properly. the difficulty comes in trying to fit in another FO character (i have a max geared, almost 7* kylo and a fotp in the making...hard mode farming). once dooku and foo both hit 7*, i expect my win rate to increase a little bit more. once the cap is lifted to 80, even if poe isn't nerfed, this team should be even better able to counter as dooku will be the ONLY character to hit turn 6 and foo will hit turn 7, which is a tie with poe, giving me more options to dismantle the opposing team.
So youre team isn't even all 7*? The potential.
I wanna say hopefully this will shut the noobs down but I don't have my hopes up.
yes, exactly right, which is why i run lumi. it's still a coin toss, but it's not a mirror matched coin toss. i agree with anyone who says that if i ran a poe (instead of han) to counter poe, my chances of winning increase, even if i don't win first turn taunt. that's undeniably true.
i personally do not care if poe gets nerfed or not. it won't affect my enjoyment of this game. i just know that when the cap gets lifted to 80, my team will have more of an advantage and i'll be in a better position to win against poe, nerfed or not.
Model citizen.
This one shows how easy a Poe team can be beaten with another tank with taunt.
The next one will show how a poe team can be beaten with no taunt.
Eh... "easy" is probably an overstatement. If the A.I somehow targets and kills Han before he taunts, then the match is over in less than a minute. Trust me, I know what I am saying (and reizse concurred in his response).
But yes, this team comp does give some fighting chance of countering a Poe-led, dps team.
Yes, I think so too. Whenever I face a Han team, I learned that I have to kill him asap, or silence him with a Lumi blast so he won't taunt. Else it's a gamble for round 2 Han is neat for this.
that's definitely a possibility. i think against poggle, i would lose han + 1, but still have enough turns to win in the end. han doesn't do the most damage on my team, so his dmg isn't what i'm counting on. if this particular player started subbing in poggle, i would lose a couple of days until i figured kylo is a better fit than lumi. once under 50% hp, it's a guaranteed kill for me. then it's up to rng on how the crits and assists proc.
the only other teams that come close to being as threatening are the poggle, poe + droid teams. the nice part is that those teams are also 100% farmable and just as deadly imo. i struggle quite a bit in arena since i don't refresh for extra attempts
Han is definitely a beast. If only his speed was slightly closer to Poe.
poe, rey, fotp, qgj, leia
LOL.....
At 80 their QGJ will allow ALL allies thebspeed boost, and they will have all chars at 6 or 7. And they Poe will always, every time go before your 7 turn folks.
First turn speed bonuses don't work and there are no plans to change that.
Wow I didn't know that. Makes Asajj leader skill amazingly useless and QGJ lead as well.
Ofcourse I beat up the same teams every now and then, if Leia was swapped for GS you would have been dead anyway.
But yeah it is beatable, only very low chance every time again.
Exactly.
Seriously, time already for people to get over the Poe syndrome.