Why are Jedi so weak
Since reading about the Yoda event, I stopped farming anyone not a Jedi, and have grown my team as so.
My current A team
7* Lumi, 5 *Barris, 5* QGJ, 5* Yoda, and (depending on the match) 5* Dooku or 6* Sid
My issue is that now that I am rocking a mainly Jedi team, my team has dropped in the arena, and I STILL can't beat GW anymore.
Anyway, there are a LOT of toons that are set up to inflict MAJOR damage to my Jedi squad. Every hit is either stunning or ability blocking me. Is there ANY recourse to this? Currently, I use my Barris as leader for the amazing heal buffs at the start of each turn. But there again, when they are being stunned or ability blocked, I'm toast. Would putting QGJ as my leader be better than Barris?
There is a reason there aren't many Jedi teams. There are some real anti Jedi measures. While none of my Jedi have any special abilities against other toons. Not complaining, I'm just asking what I should/can do.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
My current A team
7* Lumi, 5 *Barris, 5* QGJ, 5* Yoda, and (depending on the match) 5* Dooku or 6* Sid
My issue is that now that I am rocking a mainly Jedi team, my team has dropped in the arena, and I STILL can't beat GW anymore.
Anyway, there are a LOT of toons that are set up to inflict MAJOR damage to my Jedi squad. Every hit is either stunning or ability blocking me. Is there ANY recourse to this? Currently, I use my Barris as leader for the amazing heal buffs at the start of each turn. But there again, when they are being stunned or ability blocked, I'm toast. Would putting QGJ as my leader be better than Barris?
There is a reason there aren't many Jedi teams. There are some real anti Jedi measures. While none of my Jedi have any special abilities against other toons. Not complaining, I'm just asking what I should/can do.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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There isn't anything "weak" about Lumi. While QGJ hits hard, especially with his assist attack, he has less health than Dooku. And Yoda ain't much better... Sure they hit ok, but other than Lumi and especially Barris, their health is pitiful. That's at lvl70 with lvl8 gear...
Jedi aren't supposed to be "seeking" revenge lol, but as Obi wan said in the clone wars "Dooku doesn't share our sense of honor" so the sith are more troublesome for the Jedi.
I just don't see a full Jedi team doing well currently. Then again, a full sith-ish team wouldn't either.
My issue isn't really not hitting them. The issue I am having is more of them hitting and stunning or ability blocking me. I swear, sometimes I will go an entire match with Barris never getting to use a heal without being blocked or stunned again.
Actually Jedi is the strongest class (excluding the functional classes i.e. attacker/tank/healer/support) in this game. Just think about any team of 5 toons from the same class, Jedi team can beat all the others, even the Sith team.
An all jedi team is weak.
An all sith team of Sid, maul, savage, dooku and vader is also weak.
Have you guys seen an all sith team in teh arena top 100? yeah non existent.
Barris just sucks ... no barris in top 20 pvp
But she is goddess in gw. But in arena, yeah I agree. If I see a barris lead, I target that guy
Once you face a QGJ lead/yoda/Anakin + 2 dps teams youll know what jedis are all about.. Theyl kill 1 or 2 of yours before you can even act.
I can already kill 1 before most attack using QGJ assist attack and I have all of those toons you mentioned. My QGJ is 1/2 way to 6*, Yoda is 5*, but I have just unlocked my Anakin. So he is 4* still sitting untouched. All my resources this week have been getting QGJ to lvl70. Anakin was my next plan. However, would he be viable as a 4* with my current Jedi team?
Current setup is 7*Lumi, almost 6*Barris, 1/2 way to 6* QGJ, 5*Yoda, and 4*Anakin? It's hard for me to put a 4* in now... Would Anakin work as a 4* with this setup?
Also, what about the leader? I should use QGJ in the arena, and Barris in the GW? I have been using Barris as my leader for the health buff. It seems he (QGJ) is really helped by the extra health he is awarded from having Barris as my lead. But would the speed buff make up for the loss in overall health, AND over 1000 health at the start of each turn? Is speed REALLY THAT valuable?
Yeah that's supposed to happen. I guess it's the counter to the call assist attacks
Anakin and mace especially are seriously underrepresented in the game sadly. I love mace Windu. But not the Galaxy of heroes Windu. Even with the small
Buff they gave him, it's still nothing like he's mean to be.
7* QGJ as lead/7* lumi/7*jc/6*Ahsoka/7* Darth Sid
And I'm always top. (Although I ranked down sometimes because they target my Ahsoka)
I have 6 star 20/100 anakin but waiting on a few purple mats to bring him out. I also have 5 star Yoda But waiting on the Yoda event again to get 7*. I plan on replacing sid and Ahsoka for anakin and Yoda.
I've definitely seen all Jedi teams take #1 in arena and they are deadly: QGJ leader, Lumi, Anakin, Yoda, and Old Ben is a very capable team comp.
I think if everyone had all the Jedi - if the best ones were easily available - this type of question wouldn't really come up. Jedi in this game as a group are very good and have the best depth and options.
Yes speed is THAT valuable in teh arena. To put it in context, some people (including myslef) use QGJs leader ability even if hes the ONLY Jedi in the team. The goal is to kill 1 or 2 of his toons before he can act, then you seal your victory.
People also seldom use healers as theres no point. If you have a team of DPS/DPS/DPS/Suport/healer, and I kill your 2 DPS before your turn, theres a very slim chance you ca recover having only a dps/dupport and healer.
Bariss is really good in the GW though as a 3rd backup healer or against a team w/ sid and kylo anti heals.
Anakin is very strong in the right team. Top players are already using him.
1st, you have to use him w/ QGJ, so hes very fast.
2nd most top teams carry a full DPS 1st turn teams, so usually they will take out 1 or 2 of your guys if RNG is against you. But w/ anakin around hell take an extra turn and retaliate w/ higher damage and kill his toons as well.
3rd hes tanky so he wont be focused 1st.
4th he can easily give offense up if timing is right.
Speed is key in this current meta, and hes very fast.
Here's some key F2P Jedi character changes that are crucial and easy to fix:
- Ashoka needs way more speed, she is flat out useless. Her leader ability is also trash, it might be viable if EVERYONE got turn meter on evade, similar to Duku offence up.
- Mace Windu needs a better package (See character feedback on him, there is a lot he is still falling short with). His IA mechanics don't work either. When he finally does expose and doesn't get resisted he often doesn't even attack that character. He might be slightly usable if this got fix but even then, in no way is he a strong character.
- Ploo Koon is another badly broken character, **** all damage and has offence down move with almost no potency. Explain that one lol.
- Barris's passive doesn't work, I've never once seen her passive remove a neg status effect. She could also definitely use more damage, i'm sorry but that noodle she hits with just doesn't cut it. The ONLY real role she plays in is leader in GW, not very viable when a character has only one use.
- Jedi Knight Gardian is still way too slow and with no taunt does no ware near enough damage. Another useless Jedi
Long story short, EA has a fair amount of changes to make before making Jedi a serious force to be reckon with in Squad Arena. Simply putting Yoda in the game does not make up for all the broken and lack luster
F2P Jedi characters. The really disappointing part is I spend all my time, efforts and in-game currency towards developing Jedi because to me Jedi is what Star Wars is all about. Only to find out that as F2P they can't seriously compete in Squad Arena. Having said all that I will still continue to work on my Jedi Roster primary in hopes that all the character flaws get fixed in the future.
Thanks if you took the time to read this rant lol.
Cheers!