Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't kitten, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
That's because the game was new and we only had 1 raid which wasn't enough content. We have more than enough content now to keep us busy
A Snoke boss raid...would be awesome in the coming months.
Require g12 toons
Leave Rancor and HAAT as they are.
Being able to Solo HAAT is still a goal for many, and a milestone achievement
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Seems like a lead developer would disagree with you but I guess that's not important
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Actually anyone with common sense would rethink their position and consider all sides. Especially the fact that the devs are planning to have more raids ADDED to the game. But, I mean that's just a devs comment in an interview, it's not like they would plan to make new things for us to play with now is it?
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
A new raid would be good.
The way you're suggesting it be implemented though, not so much.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Actually anyone with common sense would rethink their position and consider all sides. Especially the fact that the devs are planning to have more raids ADDED to the game. But, I mean that's just a devs comment in an interview, it's not like they would plan to make new things for us to play with now is it?
Literally no one has said a new raid is a bad idea. I'm starting to think english isn't OP's first language?
Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't ****, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Seems like a lead developer would disagree with you but I guess that's not important
Back when!? The interview was like a week ago
Each ticket you get counts as 2 tickets. 1 for rancor and 1 for tank. If you add a 3rd raid then you are getting more value enabling you to have 3 raid at the same time. As a result you are having too many gear sources, that will decrease crystal gear revenue. There is no way that would happen
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
As you've said multiple times, rancor is an easy 10 min auto every few days. How exactly will that take time away from a new raid?
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
As you've said multiple times, rancor is an easy 10 min auto every few days. How exactly will that take time away from a new raid?
It ain't about time, it's about you receiving too much gear and other resources which compete with shipments.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
As you've said multiple times, rancor is an easy 10 min auto every few days. How exactly will that take time away from a new raid?
It ain't about time, it's about you receiving too much gear and other resources which compete with shipments.
Take your tinfoil hat off man, theyve been increasing the ways to get gear. Buying gear with crystals is a short cut for those who want it.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
He's not suggesting it. He's saying based on the pattern and history of this game it's the likely outcome.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
All new content that is added is for older players. Its how you keep the game growing. Older content stays for newer players who can particpate in newer content when they progress. And you seem to be pretty confident about what the devs are planning on doing with this game
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
He's not suggesting it. He's saying based on the pattern and history of this game it's the likely outcome.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
He's not suggesting it. He's saying based on the pattern and history of this game it's the likely outcome.
Face it @cadwane your idea is , well, not really a good one. As pointed out many times, removing the rancor and turning it into a once a month event is , well, slightly poorly thought out. Since you are OBVIOUSLY a highly skilled and developed player, your attention should be on Haat , or the LS and DS TB, those are where end game players focus their attention nowadays.
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
So I'm assuming you enjoy every 2 days setting cls and han on auto and walking away for 10 minutes and that's it. Instead of a new raid?
Yes, I absolutely do enjoy doing that as do many others. I love that I can put my phone down and not have to sit in front of it and battle. Only mode possible to do that with now. Sometimes I get first, sometimes I get amazing gear, but I always get tokens to cash on for gear in the guild shop. Any mode where I get free stuff without much effort I’m all for as much of a time sink this game can be most of the time.
Might as well sim it then
Finally, one good idea out of the conversations.
A sim for those that have solo'ed the rancor will be great, and it'll just autopost the score 5 mins after the rancor is killed manually by anyone else that wants to run it.
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
All new content that is added is for older players. Its how you keep the game growing. Older content stays for newer players who can particpate in newer content when they progress. And you seem to be pretty confident about what the devs are planning on doing with this game
I'm pretty sure TB, TW and mythic events are all new content that came out for older players
So according to all of you we should never get a new raid but instead stick to the same 2 raids as we have now for as long as this game exists?
And all that so that people who are starting the game 2 years after launch don't have to do rancor once a month and have a new raid instead?
Not a single person has said they never want a new raid.
What you're suggesting though is a step sideways, not a step forward.
That in itself makes it a waste of time and effort for developers and players.
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
All new content that is added is for older players. Its how you keep the game growing. Older content stays for newer players who can particpate in newer content when they progress. And you seem to be pretty confident about what the devs are planning on doing with this game
I'm pretty sure TB, TW and mythic events are all new content that came out for older players
The Pit Raid's biggest flaw is it's a guild wide event when a large portion of any guild is going to have no problem with completing it. Perhaps instead of leaving it in the current Raid format, it could go into a TB style format. Hear me out! I'm not talking about a week long slogfest, but more like an event you started using Raid Tickets and then everyone got their own individual Rancor Raid to compete in.
There are 4 Phases and there could be shards of Han Solo given out individually based on how many of the phases a person completes. If a player can't complete a single phase, they would have to settle for whatever the lowest rank reward was (3 shards).
Then, after the event is completed (2 day time limit reached) the entire guild could gain a number of stars based on how many phases were completed overall and it could be a ranking like TB, with set rewards given out to each member. This would place a value on being able to complete the raid (as it stands, like OP says, 1 person can easily solo the raid and let the other 49 do nothing and it's pretty much the same as if they all solo it), so there would still be a need for players to build a team to complete the Rancor, but rewards for everyone doing so would justify the amount of effort people have put into it, and make it feel like everyone's contribution still matters.
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Well genius, how would you add more raids if you don't make room for them? The devs aren't kitten, they won't give you 3-4 raids and thus multiple ways to earn raid gear cause noone would buy with crystals.
The only way we ever get a new raid is by removing one
Yes thats why they got rid of rancor when Tank came out, wait.........
Your statement about it being a step sideways is the way i’m thinking about this too. We are on the same page. A waste of time for the players in a game where players are always behind the curve with plenty of toons to farm or gear. Waste of time for developers in a game where new content equals revenue. Sidestepping does not equal revenue.
That's because the game was new and we only had 1 raid which wasn't enough content. We have more than enough content now to keep us busy
Require g12 toons
Leave Rancor and HAAT as they are.
Being able to Solo HAAT is still a goal for many, and a milestone achievement
No according to OP 2 is the limit. 3 or more is completely out of the question. And please ignore the recent interviews with a developer by all the game changers where he openly confirmed more raids are definitely something that could come to the game next year
So let's not get a new raid ever...
Remember before when you were questioning someones reading ability? NO ONE has said that.
The game was new back then, content was coming out. Now we have more content to keep us busy and multiple sources of gear and resources. So yeah it's safe to assume that we aren't getting 3 active raids at the same time. Anyone with common sense would understand the difference between the state of the game then and now
Seems like a lead developer would disagree with you but I guess that's not important
Back when!? The interview was like a week ago
Actually anyone with common sense would rethink their position and consider all sides. Especially the fact that the devs are planning to have more raids ADDED to the game. But, I mean that's just a devs comment in an interview, it's not like they would plan to make new things for us to play with now is it?
If you think you'll get a 3rd active raid you are fooling yourself. There is absolutely no way we are getting 3 raids unless they make raid tickets count towards all raid progress. So you would still be capped at 60k tickets a day and you would have to use it accordingly.
So 1 energy spent would count as 2 tickets instead of one and tickets wouldn't be restricted to each raid. But then players could just repeat one raid over and over again so that won't happen
A new raid would be good.
The way you're suggesting it be implemented though, not so much.
And where or how do you arrive at your outlandish conclusions? What proof or evidence do you have to offer other then " cuz I said so" ?
Looks more like your fooling yourself here .
Each ticket you get counts as 2 tickets. 1 for rancor and 1 for tank. If you add a 3rd raid then you are getting more value enabling you to have 3 raid at the same time. As a result you are having too many gear sources, that will decrease crystal gear revenue. There is no way that would happen
As you've said multiple times, rancor is an easy 10 min auto every few days. How exactly will that take time away from a new raid?
Like i explained, they want to sell gear for crystals, they won't just hand over more gear and guild currency to players so easily, there will be a balance
It ain't about time, it's about you receiving too much gear and other resources which compete with shipments.
Yeah they won't hand it out. They'll create end game content that people will have to grind to complete or pay. Like everything in this game
Take your tinfoil hat off man, theyve been increasing the ways to get gear. Buying gear with crystals is a short cut for those who want it.
So what are you suggesting a premium raid? Or an end game exclusive raid that pushes the gap between new and old players even further? Cause for someone who seems to care about newer players so much that sounded kind of selfish.
I mean I'm not trying to attack you, I understand your point however you must realize that the odds that we get a 3rd free raid without paying the price is nearly next to none. Unless we get rid of rancor we aren't getting new raids that work with the same system of raid tickets at least
He's not suggesting it. He's saying based on the pattern and history of this game it's the likely outcome.
All new content that is added is for older players. Its how you keep the game growing. Older content stays for newer players who can particpate in newer content when they progress. And you seem to be pretty confident about what the devs are planning on doing with this game
And that's better than what I suggested?
Yes
Finally, one good idea out of the conversations.
A sim for those that have solo'ed the rancor will be great, and it'll just autopost the score 5 mins after the rancor is killed manually by anyone else that wants to run it.
I'm pretty sure TB, TW and mythic events are all new content that came out for older players
Thats what Im saying......
There are 4 Phases and there could be shards of Han Solo given out individually based on how many of the phases a person completes. If a player can't complete a single phase, they would have to settle for whatever the lowest rank reward was (3 shards).
Then, after the event is completed (2 day time limit reached) the entire guild could gain a number of stars based on how many phases were completed overall and it could be a ranking like TB, with set rewards given out to each member. This would place a value on being able to complete the raid (as it stands, like OP says, 1 person can easily solo the raid and let the other 49 do nothing and it's pretty much the same as if they all solo it), so there would still be a need for players to build a team to complete the Rancor, but rewards for everyone doing so would justify the amount of effort people have put into it, and make it feel like everyone's contribution still matters.