Team Droids on Roids...the new Meta?
December 24, 2017 11:36PM
edited December 2017
Using Rey Jedi Training (lead), with BB8, R2, Imperial Probe Droid, and Chopper, the synergy has been amazing. Not fully zetaed yet...but it can only get better. 
We're thinking this is the new meta team. This isn't my team, but my guild mate's team...the amazing 1class. What do you guys think? Here's some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxJwt5w-pM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxgMNN0N_8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1U96XaHYY
We're thinking this is the new meta team. This isn't my team, but my guild mate's team...the amazing 1class. What do you guys think? Here's some videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxJwt5w-pMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxgMNN0N_8Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1U96XaHYY0
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Rey/BB8/R2 are meant to feed turn meter (TM) to one another as quickly as possible to get Illuminated Destiny (ID) off as quickly (and as many times) as possible as that's either the end of the match, or the beginning of the end. So the idea is to get BB8 as much TM as possible.
For ID, the cooldown is reduced by each time a droid ally scores a critical hit. So, adding two droids (in addition to already having BB8 and R2), helps that happen. R2's passive combat analysis helps add 10% CC to everyone, which helps. Additionally, BB8's self-preservation protocol gives droids 8% TM for each droid ally...thus giving your BB8 the "go first" advantage. Finally, Chopper has the chance to assist (30%) each time a droid attacks...and on his basic he grants a random droid a buff with a 60% chance to reduce a cooldown by 1.
For defense, Chopper will taunt and gains evasion when he does that. At the start of each of his turns, he regains health and gains protection up when hit. R2 passively taunt to move the damage to him (or BB8, or Rey), and due to all the droids, he gains protection (10% per droid ally). If you zeta R2, then the other droids gain this protection as well. BB8 and Rey will dodge a ton if they are taunting (passively). R2 also dispels debuffs on a critical hit with zeta on Combat Analysis (all allies are light side). If you zeta BB8 self preservation protocol, all droids regain 8% health and protection when BB8 evades. So if he is passively taunting, there's a lot of healing going on with the zeta.
Imperial Probe Droid puts target lock (TL) on everyone, and if zetaed, then you cannot gain buffs if you are target locked. On his basic he has a 80% chance to expose (TM to the "big 3").
It takes a lot to get this team...and gear/zeta them...but the synergy is insane.
No worries. Nudging you to the right place.
Someone got scared and hid it.
Great looking team. I'd love to see the mods that are being used. It's going to take me forever to get ipd there, but I'm motivated now lol.
They wanted to hide the truth lol
Never thought of probot, but I'm a long way from the unlock there. We got a lot more people putting a zeta on Veers, but still.
He moved it cause this team is a piece of art
My 4th is K2S0, and I'd take him over chopper in any non-Phoenix team all day long. https://swgoh.gg/u/woodroward/collection/218/k-2so/
To put it another way: that team would be better with K2S0 than it is with Chopper.
I mean, let's compare: R2 will ALWAYS hit K2 with that stealth because he has a massive H+P pool. His taunt is up way more. Has way more defense (mine has 47.6% armor). And counterattacks. He also gives you another way to inflict Daze (the more of that the better for both CLS and JTR teams). He's a far more proper tank than Chopper.
Chopper has self heals and bonus protection, but not much defense. He's got a buff wipe, but you already have the best buff wipe in the game with IPD, and another great one from JTR besides, it's usefulness is limited. He does get that auto assist that could decrease ID CD if he crits, but K2 has that counterattack that does the same...
25k health and 31k protection when he's maxed means you can get him up over 100k H+P. People that run pure droid teams are pretty much required to since he gains a taunt at that point.
I thought about K2, but I like chopper better. You don't need the taunt of K2...R2 is going to stealth everyone of importance. And Choppers speed/self-heal/assist/cooldown reduction/protection regen/dodge on taunt/buff removal are just better fits. K2 is a better shield if that's all you want that spot to be.
That's the most important part of that spot. Chopper is squishy compared to K2. He would die too early and not allow others to get their job done since that toon dying makes stealth on everyone else useless. Non-resistance get turns too seldom in that comp for his self heal to have much value.
As for the buffs... ID does most of those so their value is limited, just like Rey's self cleanse if you already have combat analysis.
As for the assist... K2's counterattack more or less evens out on that in both the amount of damage he deals out and reducing ID cooldown.
The taunt on damage means K2 can provide protection even when stealth drops off of BB8 or JTR because they get so many turns. That's the key point IMO. Thrawn fracturing JTR means game over a lot of the time.
I guess if you enjoy it, go ahead and run it, but Chopper really doesn't bring much value to the comp offensively or defensively compared to having K2 in there.
Meh, I use K2 in my JTR squad. I have played against someone using Chopper in theirs. Not impressed with Chopper over K2 personally.
For the record: Chopper does NOT make ID proc faster than K2. Counterattacks off of forced taunt from R2 and his own taunt mean all his crits decrease it just as fast... even if K2 never took a turn.
I disagree. K2SO only reduces ID cooldown by 1 IF he crits. K2SO crit is usually around 35%. Then you have GK throwing around crit immunity on your enemy. Chopper on the other hand is super fast and has two specials which each reduce ID by 1-3 depending on how many Resistance allies have Secret Intel. Choppers assist happens when YOUR super fast droids attack. K2SO counters only happen whenever the enemy gets a turn finally.
You can disagree all you want. I've watched plenty of videos with Chopper and played against him as well as having played a lot with K2S0... this isn't a theory. Chopper doesn't reduce ID any faster than K2S0 does.
Yes, yes. Bring up the fact that I misremembered something I had little experience with after many months, many months ago, to discredit my many hours of current gaming experience in the top 10 of my arena bracket about this particular topic.
Your post makes no valid point sir. The comparison is simply not a comparison. Or should I call you troll instead of sir, because all you are doing is trolling right now?
Meh whatever. You're wrong about chopper and you would know this if you geared him up.
Chopper in the lineup just requires an extra turn to wait to fracture Rey since his taunt doesn't last long. I actually find the teams with a well geared and modded Han tougher, because they have some offense.
You've got that backwards son.You're wrong about K2. I'm not underestimating Chopper. You're underestimating K2. Which you'd know if YOU geared up K2. You probably haven't even faced one under JTR yet.
That's more like it! You've got some respect for the K2.
Raid Han hardly hurts my K2S0. He often kills himself attacking him.
Some math: My K2 has 47.6% armor. Lets say Raid Han crits for 30k on his basic: 30k * 52.4/100 * 0.5 = only 7860 damage Raid Han does to my K2 with his basic once K2 has landed offense down on him. He has to attack him something like 11-12 times to kill him (which is about 5 actions of course), and hope he doesn't die first from the counterattacks (which happens a lot).