Here are some stats that changed when looking at his gear at level 8:
- 800 Less HP + 25% more potency (bombs stick better)
+ 256 more AD (stronger physical damage)
+9 speed (faster!)
So yes, he lost a bit of health, but he does hit harder and is faster now.
Thanks for the update, I personally got him at gear 9, but what is to explain the people that will be able to get him to G10 within a week versus others who can cap at 8 for the foreseeable future.
The bolded part is what I'm most excited about!
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Here are some stats that changed when looking at his gear at level 8:
- 800 Less HP
+ 25% more potency (bombs stick better)
+ 256 more AD (stronger physical damage)
+9 speed (faster!)
So yes, he lost a bit of health, but he does hit harder and is faster now.
And what about other gear levels? Mine is gear 7 and appears to have lost health and I see no gear that grants health, I was farming for a piece of gear that granted health but that's changed now...
My Greedo is 6*, level 64 (almost 65) with Gear 8.
I double checked and confirmed for myself that a few of his slot requirements for pieces were changed as well as that bottom-right G8 that was changed to level 73 needed.
Looks like I'm good to go and farm some stuff for Gear 9 when I get there, but.... with my power at 4499 and my health at 7581... UNBELIEVABLE now. My own 5* GS could one shot crit Greedo with life that low.
How do you nerf a toon that already only has 1 of 2 moves nerfed?
Well. This is **** seriously. Pass it on to the devs jesse. It'****.h.i.t.
I was gearing my greedo. Just hit 7* and 70 yesterday.
Not hus gear level 8 requires 280 purple materials. Seriously? And each piece gives him a tiny bit of stats. 50 cuffs for +60 damage. Need 2 of those. +60 physical damage?! Seriously? Tell the devs that the unnamed Geonesian Soldier has 1800 physical damage without using any cuffs. All AGI stuff instead that gives crit, and armor. But for some reasom Greedo needs 100 cuffs to get +120 physical damage? S.H.I.T!
Well. This is **** seriously. Pass it on to the devs jesse. It'****.h.i.t.
I was gearing my greedo. Just hit 7* and 70 yesterday.
Not hus gear level 8 requires 280 purple materials. Seriously? And each piece gives him a tiny bit of stats. 50 cuffs for +60 damage. Need 2 of those. +60 physical damage?! Seriously? Tell the devs that the unnamed Geonesian Soldier has 1800 physical damage without using any cuffs. All AGI stuff instead that gives crit, and armor. But for some reasom Greedo needs 100 cuffs to get +120 physical damage? S.H.I.T!
Pass it on for me.
I feel like I dodged a bullet with that one, I had him sitting at Gear 9 for the longest time, thankfully I will never have to farm 100 cuffs for him.
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1) No other characters were affected by this.
2) I'm talking to some designers about this, his health did decrease some, but his attack and potency should be increased. I'm getting some more detailed numbers for all of you, will share once they're ready in the next hour or so.
3) I am not trying to leave things out of update notes. It takes a bit of work to get all of these together, and I do my best to cover everything, but sometimes there are very last minute changes that get put into an update. I'm sorry this was one wasn't in the notes, I'll try to get changes like this one included in the future.
Thank you for the apology. That means a lot to me. You're man enough to own up to your (plural (the whole team)) mistakes. Kudos.
Although this doesn't change anything for the better it's nice to hear you say it.
My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
@EA_Jesse How are you going to address the barrier this change has created between players who were gear 9 with him prior to this (and can now get gear 10) and those who were still in the process of upgrading him and will be stuck at gear 8? Doesn't seem very fair.
@EA_Jesse How are you going to address the barrier this change has created between players who were gear 9 with him prior to this (and can now get gear 10) and those who were still in the process of upgrading him and will be stuck at gear 8? Doesn't seem very fair.
He said it is only until the level cap is raised which is totally wrong but whatever. Good thing I only wanted greedo to have the gear for GW.
And the massive 280 purple material barrier just dumped right in front of us?
OMG!
This is the biggest crapdrop yet. Maybe im bias because i was actively working on greedos gear 8, now his 8 requires all the fears his 8 and 9 needed, and thats just his 8 now. ****!
Should've geared him when you had the chance. It's Greedo, nobody levels him and nobody invests gear into him. He's rarely used because he's weak. Stop with the self-entitled whining.
No need to be hostile. I'd be angry too if I were farming him.
And the massive 280 purple material barrier just dumped right in front of us?
OMG!
This is the biggest crapdrop yet. Maybe im bias because i was actively working on greedos gear 8, now his 8 requires all the fears his 8 and 9 needed, and thats just his 8 now. ****!
Yeah the amount of went up is outrageous. They probably read a post I made saying how easy he was to gear.
Should've geared him when you had the chance. It's Greedo, nobody levels him and nobody invests gear into him. He's rarely used because he's weak. Stop with the self-entitled whining.
No need to be hostile. I'd be angry too if I were farming him.
The real issue isn't that his gear/requirements changed. It is that yet again there were stealth changes. We were assured that the internal processes of writing patch notes would be fixed and yet again, they got it wrong.
I wish I could be wrong that many times in a row and still manage to draw a paycheck. (Not a call out against Jesse, but those supplying the notes)
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
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In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
But why nerf my boy greed greeds health? He was a baller and just like how he played ball he couldn't shoot for Jack. But when he picked up my girl he sure as heck shot first if you know what I'm saying.
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
But why nerf my boy greed greeds health? He was a baller and just like how he played ball he couldn't shoot for Jack. But when he picked up my girl he sure as heck shot first if you know what I'm saying.
His health steal has been severely nerfed, as someone mentioned earlier. I'm not upset about it but I find it odd that its not being acknowledged as one of the changes made to his gear.
All said, he doesn't feel nerfed overall - speed and damage are better than health and recovery in most spots.
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
But why make this change prior to rolling out these future updates? It creates a disparity that many find totally unacceptable. Was there some sort of pressing need to do it right now that I'm missing?
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
But why make this change prior to rolling out these future updates? It creates a disparity that many find totally unacceptable. Was there some sort of pressing need to do it right now that I'm missing?
I'm not a server engineer or coder, but I do know that some things need to be done during certain update time frames. That's about all the information I can provide.
Community Manager for Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes | Follow me on Twitter - Darokaz
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
But why make this change prior to rolling out these future updates? It creates a disparity that many find totally unacceptable. Was there some sort of pressing need to do it right now that I'm missing?
Scoundrel Event.
Maybe. I'm not totally discounting that. But from where I'm sitting I don't see the issue with where he was. Especially considering that there are now those capable of getting him to g10 for the same event.
Here are some stats that changed when looking at his gear at level 8:
- 800 Less HP
+ 25% more potency (bombs stick better)
+ 256 more AD (stronger physical damage)
+9 speed (faster!)
So yes, he lost a bit of health, but he does hit harder and is faster now.
Not only did you remove over 1000hp from a maxed Greedo (reducing him from average agi attacker hp to 3rd lowest in the game), you gutted his health steal. From 25% to 5%. One of the things that I loved about Greedo was his ability to survive, between his evasion and high health steal he wad a mainstay on all my teams, GW included.
And the increased potency is a waste as a player will never use the thermal detonator as it is a wasted turn and his basic is better 99.99% of the time, not to mention they never worked with health steal anyway.
The damage is nice, and the speed is hardly better but appreciated. But they aren't worth what was lost in order to obtain them.
We did the change to Greedo to prepare for something being worked on that we're not quite ready to talk about yet.
You clearly didn't learn from the undocumented Poe changes caused massive outrage. It's fair enough you're not ready to talk about why the changes are being made, but you at least need to warn people they are happening.
I'm not a server engineer or coder, but I do know that some things need to be done during certain update time frames. That's about all the information I can provide.
He was nerfed so people would farm Lando. People will need as many Scoundrel heroes as they can. That means more money for CG.
Now I don't care if you do this. I don't care if you nerf every single hero I have. But if you don't give advanced notice I will be fuming.
-Advanced notice
-Proper patch notes
-Proper communication
I don't care how terrible the game is, if you devs are upfront I will be happy.
My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
What's Greedo's speed w/ Lando's leader ability? Maybe they're simply trying to make a scoundrel squad a little less bogus?
Full disclosure - I love Greedo and he was the first character I fully maxed in this game. As a child, I loved the texture of his toy's head. I may have been slightly autistic or something idk.
In this situation it was either take away gear from those who already farmed for it to get Greedo to 9, or take the action we did. Once the level cap is introduced in the future everyone will be able to get Greedo to the same gear level.
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
In this situation there were a myriad of ways it could have been done, but as you mentioned this was a last minute addition and it was a ham-fisted one at that.
The change itself may be good/neutral/bad, I don't know but it changes the nature of the character from the role I was aiming for with him.
The communication was non existent, the implementation is boggling and the new gear requirements are so out of touch with anyone who enjoys playing this game.
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- 800 Less HP
+ 25% more potency (bombs stick better)
+ 256 more AD (stronger physical damage)
+9 speed (faster!)
So yes, he lost a bit of health, but he does hit harder and is faster now.
Thanks. People are saying Yoda's gear was also changed. Is this true?
Thanks for the update, I personally got him at gear 9, but what is to explain the people that will be able to get him to G10 within a week versus others who can cap at 8 for the foreseeable future.
The bolded part is what I'm most excited about!
And what about other gear levels? Mine is gear 7 and appears to have lost health and I see no gear that grants health, I was farming for a piece of gear that granted health but that's changed now...
I double checked and confirmed for myself that a few of his slot requirements for pieces were changed as well as that bottom-right G8 that was changed to level 73 needed.
Looks like I'm good to go and farm some stuff for Gear 9 when I get there, but.... with my power at 4499 and my health at 7581... UNBELIEVABLE now. My own 5* GS could one shot crit Greedo with life that low.
How do you nerf a toon that already only has 1 of 2 moves nerfed?
I was gearing my greedo. Just hit 7* and 70 yesterday.
Not hus gear level 8 requires 280 purple materials. Seriously? And each piece gives him a tiny bit of stats. 50 cuffs for +60 damage. Need 2 of those. +60 physical damage?! Seriously? Tell the devs that the unnamed Geonesian Soldier has 1800 physical damage without using any cuffs. All AGI stuff instead that gives crit, and armor. But for some reasom Greedo needs 100 cuffs to get +120 physical damage? S.H.I.T!
Pass it on for me.
I feel like I dodged a bullet with that one, I had him sitting at Gear 9 for the longest time, thankfully I will never have to farm 100 cuffs for him.
Thank you for the apology. That means a lot to me. You're man enough to own up to your (plural (the whole team)) mistakes. Kudos.
Although this doesn't change anything for the better it's nice to hear you say it.
He said it is only until the level cap is raised which is totally wrong but whatever. Good thing I only wanted greedo to have the gear for GW.
OMG!
This is the biggest crapdrop yet. Maybe im bias because i was actively working on greedos gear 8, now his 8 requires all the fears his 8 and 9 needed, and thats just his 8 now. ****!
No need to be hostile. I'd be angry too if I were farming him.
Yeah the amount of went up is outrageous. They probably read a post I made saying how easy he was to gear.
The real issue isn't that his gear/requirements changed. It is that yet again there were stealth changes. We were assured that the internal processes of writing patch notes would be fixed and yet again, they got it wrong.
I wish I could be wrong that many times in a row and still manage to draw a paycheck. (Not a call out against Jesse, but those supplying the notes)
And again, no changes were made to any other characters regarding gear. I checked with our designers on this and was told only Greedo was affected.
Hopefully that level cap increase isn't too soon.
But why nerf my boy greed greeds health? He was a baller and just like how he played ball he couldn't shoot for Jack. But when he picked up my girl he sure as heck shot first if you know what I'm saying.
Lol, baller
All said, he doesn't feel nerfed overall - speed and damage are better than health and recovery in most spots.
@EA_Jesse
But why make this change prior to rolling out these future updates? It creates a disparity that many find totally unacceptable. Was there some sort of pressing need to do it right now that I'm missing?
Scoundrel Event.
Maybe. I'm not totally discounting that. But from where I'm sitting I don't see the issue with where he was. Especially considering that there are now those capable of getting him to g10 for the same event.
Not only did you remove over 1000hp from a maxed Greedo (reducing him from average agi attacker hp to 3rd lowest in the game), you gutted his health steal. From 25% to 5%. One of the things that I loved about Greedo was his ability to survive, between his evasion and high health steal he wad a mainstay on all my teams, GW included.
And the increased potency is a waste as a player will never use the thermal detonator as it is a wasted turn and his basic is better 99.99% of the time, not to mention they never worked with health steal anyway.
The damage is nice, and the speed is hardly better but appreciated. But they aren't worth what was lost in order to obtain them.
You clearly didn't learn from the undocumented Poe changes caused massive outrage. It's fair enough you're not ready to talk about why the changes are being made, but you at least need to warn people they are happening.
When are Yoda, Geonosian Soldier, Old Ben and all the others able to reach Gear 9 getting their changes then?
He was nerfed so people would farm Lando. People will need as many Scoundrel heroes as they can. That means more money for CG.
Now I don't care if you do this. I don't care if you nerf every single hero I have. But if you don't give advanced notice I will be fuming.
-Advanced notice
-Proper patch notes
-Proper communication
I don't care how terrible the game is, if you devs are upfront I will be happy.
Full disclosure - I love Greedo and he was the first character I fully maxed in this game. As a child, I loved the texture of his toy's head. I may have been slightly autistic or something idk.
The change itself may be good/neutral/bad, I don't know but it changes the nature of the character from the role I was aiming for with him.
The communication was non existent, the implementation is boggling and the new gear requirements are so out of touch with anyone who enjoys playing this game.