The raid issue on Han [MERGE]
March 5, 2018 11:31PM
edited March 2018
You designed the game. You should have known all the interactions, and if you miss some, it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Figuring out perhaps obscure mechanisms to maximize score in a raid or other PVE content is as old as time. Game studios that yank the fun away after the fact are not playing in the spirit of gaming. Of course you can do what you want it’s your right as a Star Wars license holder and spender of money to make games, but you should be embarrassed nonetheless.
Figuring out perhaps obscure mechanisms to maximize score in a raid or other PVE content is as old as time. Game studios that yank the fun away after the fact are not playing in the spirit of gaming. Of course you can do what you want it’s your right as a Star Wars license holder and spender of money to make games, but you should be embarrassed nonetheless.
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I wish the commmitment for refinement would be as fast in other cases also. Or better just stop that kind of marketing language.
And th is is called balancing. You may hate it, but its balancing
How about studying the mechanic first? Its sthan giving tm that is the base for this setup.
Lame CG, really lame.
In addition, all other allies gain 20% Turn Meter when Han is damaged while his Taunt is active.
This includes the damage granted by Darth Traya in p3 and p4 with her bonds of weakness damage
Yep, DSTB exploit comes to mind. At least they learned from that nightmare not to blame the players this time . @CG_Leviathan
As a 90 GP guild who tried tier 6 and couldn't get past phase one, tried tier 5 and couldn't get past tier 1, I really hope they don't change how the raid works before we even get to complete it; That would be unfair.
Leaving the raid the way it works ( this is not a bug) would be better for the game. Games are meant to be figured out like this. Look at the Mario 64 competitions that still go on, and they compete to get the quickest time using all known exploits.
This is not a bug. This is the raid and characters working as described. Since when do things in this game get changed when they work exactly as described.
The last thing the Sith raid needs is a buff.
Basically what you guys (CG) are saying is any strategy that doesn't take hundreds of dollars to implement is not welcome in this game. This is truly disgusting.
Well, I’m a little ticked because I spent gear on him wanting to do this. Luckily it wasn’t extreme, and I stopped before going past G10 because of this announcement, but it still sucks.
That is a really fancy kitten thing to do. Seems to me his ability is working as intended: giving turn meter everytime he gets damaged.
What is next? Take the unavoidable turn meter reduction from Vader's skill?
Like savage and Kylo loops and acolyte and zombie loops?
Except for JTR's TM reduction
And SThan is gaining turnmeter like he is supposed to, not reducing trayas
How about looking at the whole picture first?
The example I saw used Zentress' TM removal with ST Han to create a loop. They're not going to nerf St Han as a character to fix this so the most likely solution lies in the way Traya reacts to the TM reduction.
That's why I said almost.
It is not (see below for all context)"We are fairly confident it should be clear that any character at Gear Tier 6 should not be the key factor in allowing 2 members to solo any phase of any Raid, let alone a Heroic tier. That very clearly undermines our intent, the concept of a Raid, and any in-game progression."
I fully understand the intention is for this raid to be the most difficult content in the game. But please understand that a
portion of your playerbase thrives off of theory crafting. I for one zeta fives to theory crafting a new team for arena that fell flat on it's face. I have no problem experimenting new teams and wasting valuable resources such as zetas to try them. But theory crafting a new team to have it work better then the developers anticipated and subsequently Nerf the team is truly sole crushing to your playerbase.
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May 2017 edited June 2017 in Dev Announcements and News
See what I did there? Eh? EH?
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TL;DR Version
Nute Gunray’s Leader Ability is broken (bad)
It grants units Turn Meter on Critical Hits outside of their turn (really bad)
We’re going to fix it (good)
ANYWAY, as most of you are aware, there is currently an issue where Nute Gunray’s Leader Ability, Backroom Subterfuge, is not working as originally intended. The short version is that a Nute Gunray, at Gear Tier 6, with only his Leader Ability maxed, can allow 2 Jawas to do an enormous amount of damage inside of the Heroic AAT Raid, effectively soloing a full phase.
We are fairly confident it should be clear that any character at Gear Tier 6 should not be the key factor in allowing 2 members to solo any phase of any Raid, let alone a Heroic tier. That very clearly undermines our intent, the concept of a Raid, and any in-game progression.
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So What's Going On?
Backroom Subterfuge currently reads:
“Stealthed allies gain 55% Critical Chance and gain 50% Turn Meter the first time they score a Critical Hit each turn.”
The wording states “each turn”, which means that Nute’s ability should be triggering the first time a character gets a Critical Hit on their turn, not on assists, which is what is happening.
We have known about this issue, but because there was never a situation where Nute’s ability was dramatically undermining the game, we had originally categorized Nute’s issue as a low priority bug. That said, we did not take this issue in to account when we buffed the Turn Meter gain on Nute (we increased the Turn Meter gain from 35% to 50%), and so these assists, coupled with the buff a few weeks back, are fundamentally undermining the Heroic AAT Raid.
This new issue obviously elevates Nute’s broken ability to a high priority bug and we’re going to fix it today.
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The Fix
So we’re doing 2 things here:
Backroom Subterfuge has been fixed and will now work as original intended
Which means that we will update the language to be explicit, so it will read something like this (language isn’t 100% final):
“Stealthed allies gain 55% Critical Chance and gain 50% Turn Meter the first time they score a Critical Hit during their turn.”
This means that assists will no longer trigger Backroom Subterfuge.
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Closing Words
We know that there are players who are upset over this change. While we understand the feelings around this, we exacerbated an existing bug with a buff to Nute Gunray and now we need to fix it.
The Heroic Tier of any Raid should be difficult and require players to have a broad roster to overcome the challenge. This has always been the nature of the intent around these releases. Nute Gunray, in his current broken state, completely undermines that.
Finally, we are aware that there is an issue with the ESCAPE ability that is granted to players via the Raid mechanics. We know that this too is undermining the intent of the Heroic Raid Tiers, and we are looking in to solutions for this. We will discuss that update a little later.
Thank you so much for your understanding, and may the Force be with you all.
//NRAJ
Post edited by CG_Kozispoon on June 2017
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Mods feel free to imbed above quote as I am apparently not smart enough to figure it out.
Pretty typical, not surprised. But no hard feelings. My guild is still in phase 1, are we keeping the status quo I hope until guilds complete their first raid?
@CG_Kozispoon @CG_Leviathan ?