Young Han solo & Vandor Chewbacca How To Use Them(The Silent Scoundrel Rework)

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A fruitful day to all & may the force be with you.
YIPEEE!!!!! New Toons Have Been Added Again. I must commend sulport for introducing 2 fresh character that change they way Scoundrels will be viewed for a long time.
1.FIRST question are the new toons viable?
My answer is YES. They are worth acquiring and Are Very arena viable when the lair are used with the right synergy. Young Han Solo & Vandor Chewbacca work brilliantly well against a variety of enemies.

2. WHO are the best team mates to match then with? Many may not agree with me but after much thinking and analysis the best leaders i could come up with were Old ben & Clone wars Chewbacca. I will explain why.

3. FIRST We must understand their abilities. Vandor Chewys two unique abilities require that he is buffed to function at its maximun so you need a toon that frequently gives buffs. ONE way to do so is to use Chewbacca clone wars leadership which auto buffs the entire team with defense up when damages & probides extra defense boost. Also since clone wars Chewbacca isa Scoundrel he will benefit from the revive ability of Vandor Chewy Also Raid Han Zolo is another i dispensible addition because of his frequent buffs High damage unique he also has the Scoundrel tag. With the extra buffs all over the place vandor chewy can get prepared fast & the enemies will have - 25% offense constantly.

4. Young Han Solo on the other hand is a superb toon with great survivability & damage he keeps gaining protection up like Wampa but has a much better cooldown he doesn't require much synergy & will fit in anywhere like raid han.

5.Old Ben lead when paired with raid hand can be very formidable so adding the YHsolo & VanChewy Pair definitely add more bang & spice to combo.

MOCK TEAMS

Clonewars Chewbacca Lead, vandor chewy, young han solo. Stormtrooper han & raid han (zolo)

Old ben lead, Zolo, vandor chewy, young han solo & Stormtrooper han. ( I will uplod a screen shot of the capabilities of Old ben X Zolo Combo 10 defends total in TW the interesting pR was the first 5 battles they were untouched).

I hope this was helpful criticism & more ideas are welcome. THANKS for viewing.

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  • Kyno
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    Moved to strategy section.

    Those are some bold claims, have you actually tried them in the current meta waters of arena. Something tells me the sharks would eat that up.

    There have been a few toons released that look great on paper and even have a whole team built around them just to end up never living up to it. I'm looking at you ATF. Shes a great toon but never had her chance on the meta stage.

    It will be interesting to see how these 2 come onto the scene and if they make any waves in the pool.
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    I Havent Really Tried Them But Oldben & Clone wars Chewbacca are great leads for the team also Ackbar Lead will work well with all hans except veteran han & any Kenobi Old Ben lead especially good when RNG is in your favour. They cant challenge the current meta Scoundrels are a few toons & a rework away from Meta but they will be excellent in TW & TB which i love more than Arena
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  • Damodamo
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    @InstantDoneWithYou can you provide a link to your gg account? I’m kind of curious as to whether your post are all theory or whether you actually do anything with the toons you recommend on a regular basis.
  • Ploosh
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    Yeah, I get in theory it seems like the synergy should be there, but I can't imagine this actually working in arena. I'd get some videos of these teams beating some of the EP teams in arena matches before you start claiming they're viable. I'd love it if they were, just don't see it happening as of now.
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    Damodamo wrote: »
    @InstantDoneWithYou can you provide a link to your gg account? I’m kind of curious as to whether your post are all theory or whether you actually do anything with the toons you recommend on a regular basis.

    My GP is 2.3 Mil Not Much But Spread Across as Many Farmable toons As Possible so I Test Most Of Them Personally pls sew the links for SCREENSHOTs
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    Ploosh wrote: »
    Yeah, I get in theory it seems like the synergy should be there, but I can't imagine this actually working in arena. I'd get some videos of these teams beating some of the EP teams in arena matches before you start claiming they're viable. I'd love it if they were, just don't see it happening as of now.
    Ploosh wrote: »
    Yeah, I get in theory it seems like the synergy should be there, but I can't imagine this actually working in arena. I'd get some videos of these teams beating some of the EP teams in arena matches before you start claiming they're viable. I'd love it if they were, just don't see it happening as of now.
    They will make top 200 which is ok for any team plus that plus 200 speed will definitely be something to watchout for
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  • Damodamo
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    Damodamo wrote: »
    @InstantDoneWithYou can you provide a link to your gg account? I’m kind of curious as to whether your post are all theory or whether you actually do anything with the toons you recommend on a regular basis.

    My GP is 2.3 Mil Not Much But Spread Across as Many Farmable toons As Possible so I Test Most Of Them Personally pls sew the links for SCREENSHOTs

    I wasn’t questioning your gp, I’m just curious what your gg account looks like and whether you have levelled and geared the toons you reccomend literally all the time. My gp is only 2.2mil, here’s a link to mine in case your not sure what I mean.
    https://swgoh.gg/u/damodamo/
  • Shaunyvee
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    Greedo lead, Zolo, ig88/boba yolo & Vchewbacca.

    Saw some massive numbers on auto in the bonus event.
  • PiffGuru
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    Stop with the capitalizing the first letter of everything.
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    A fruitful day to all & may the force be with you

    Today i want to talk briefly about the new Scoundrels added to the game to celebrate the han solo movie names vandor chewbacca(VChewy) & young han solo (Yolo).
    Like most of us know already they are real fun to play with and they have real viability for top 200 arena & other areas of the game.

    Enough about the lets get to the subject of the matter which is 2 chewy 3 solo a nice team you can have fun with mostly in TW.

    MOCK TEAM: Clone Wars Chewbacca Lead, VChewy, Yolo, ZtHan(Zeta Stormtrooper Han) & Zolo (for those who didnt know zeta sthan & VChewy are a match made in heaven Zthan literally gains 10% protection every time he is damaged & 5% protection each turn that is take as long as VChewy is buffed)

    So lets talk about synergy & why they are fun. Zolo & Clone Wars Chewy keeps the team constantly buffed meaning VChewys unique that automatically reduces the opponents damage by 25% will be constantly active.
    Coupled with Clone Chewys leadership ability that adds a huge amount of defense to the team the rest is history zolo & yolo will do the remaining job zthan's armor has to be at least 40% above 210 Speed Zolo high damage & at least 230 speed yolo as fast as possible the team newds to be generally superfast to be arena viable top 200.

    I hope people will have more fun with the new Scoundrels as much as i am. Criticism & more ideas are always welcome.

    -GENERAL INSTANT

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  • Ruark_Icefire
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    Edit: nm didn't read all the replies.
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    Seems very easy to get around. Prevent st han from taunting either with ability block, fracture, buff immunity etc. Then you can go to town on zolo and the damage dealing part of that team is gone. Also requires a couple of zetas that im not sure most people would be up for putting on.

    Nice to see an interesting use for lesser used toons.

    (Small grammer **** moment, you dont need to say literally for protection regain.. its not like it can happen figuratively)
  • ExarTheKun
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    Seems very easy to get around. Prevent st han from taunting either with ability block, fracture, buff immunity etc. Then you can go to town on zolo and the damage dealing part of that team is gone. Also requires a couple of zetas that im not sure most people would be up for putting on.

    Nice to see an interesting use for lesser used toons.

    (Small grammer **** moment, you dont need to say literally for protection regain.. its not like it can happen figuratively)

    Grammar*

    Literally the most annoying spelling mistake I see on a regular basis.
  • Damodamo
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    @InstantDoneWithYou so second thread about the same subject? I’m guessing nobody stroked your ego enough in the other thread?

    Have you personally zeta’d both of the toons? Have you levelled the new toons to 85 and g10/11? As that’s the only way you can say they are worthwhile!!

    Post your gg account
  • Roopehun
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    I love your posts. Obviously I was also thinking on what +3 are the best to team up with, and also, who can be the right leader, and your post gets a very different angle than I was getting.

    I recommend Bobba fett. Simply because he's great on its own + has a good leader for the younglings + is a scoundrel, so will be assisted.
    The other potential leader is Lando. Best leader skill, but a bit lackluster otherwise.

    So thats 3 fragile characters so far, and yet my next advice is Zolo, just like youve identified too. Great damage, a lot of buffs, cripplong at atart and a scoundrel, so even gets assist.

    4 fragile characters. We need the tankiest/ccer possible. Gk? Ep? Dn? They all sound horrible lore wise, but still my best bets.

    On another note, while I think the younglings are awesome, the problem is, theres a better duo than them for the same job. Wiggs. I see no way my mock team (or yours) could ever compete a danger zone team.
  • VonZant
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    Just ran CW Chewie, CHS, Vet Chewie, Vet Han, Raid Han and Vandor Chewie (Get 6 because of the event). Vandor Chewie and CW chewie are great together. Team has Phoenix type protection regen. Defense up from CW Chewie makes them extremely tough. Storm Han with his Zeta would be very to kill and have crazy TM manipulation.

    So a all-in team would be CWC Vandor STH Young Han Raid Han.

    A good TW team where Raid Han and STH is with another team would be CWC Vandor YHS VHS and Vet Chewie.

    A combo with CWC, Captain Han, Vandor and both Vets would be very hard to kill. 2 heals, 2 protection regen, 2 rezzes, 2 dazes and 2 stuns. And passive health and protection regen.

    If I am being cheap and would have to choose between 1 of the 2 new guys to upgrade at 3 or 4* now, I think I would choose Vandor. YHS will be awesome but attackers dont fare as well at low stars like Tanks do.
  • YaeVizsla
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    You left out the other benefit to a Lando lead. It's a leadership ability that can bridge in Rebels. Old Ben springs to mind. He's good on any team, and a Ben who's a little bit faster from Lando is not a bad thing.

    Not an arena worthy lineup, but solid.

    Bossk is also a strong contender as tank, whether under Boba or Lando lead.

    But honestly, without more Scoundrel content, I don't see this Han and Chewie seeing the arena. But maybe once we get more Prepared support, which will probably happen after the movie drops, we might see shenanigans around it.
    Still not a he.
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    I get a good laugh out of your posts as I assume you haven't tested these thepries and don't have the account to do so either.

    Love to see videos of these teams in action though!
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    They're a gimmick, like the Viagra duo before them.
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    They will make top 200...

    Can you please tell me on what basis you make this claim? Curious.


    And I can assure you, they wouldn't make top 200 in my shard.

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    I liked Yolo with my BH's - once he went the first time and got his buffs - he was getting A LOT of assist attacks, it was pretty sweet.

    That he needs to take up a turn to give the buff to someone else is lame, I guess that's why you need Yewie... but I'm not sure I'd want to go in with only 3 new Bh's and 2 new toons... And so I'm not sure only using Yolo with 4 B's worth the extra attacks if he's hitting like a wet noodle, and it's just a daze to keep him from even doing that right.
    #AcolyteShootsTwice
  • VonZant
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    They will make top 200...

    Can you please tell me on what basis you make this claim? Curious.


    And I can assure you, they wouldn't make top 200 in my shard.

    Isnt it too early to determine this either way?
  • Vertigo
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    Just gonna ignore the argument here, but at least the OP is on to something. He's probably going about it a very dumb way, but making sure Vandor Chewie is always buffed is a very nice defensive bonus for your team. Best way to ensure Vandor Chewie is always buffed? Undispellable buffs.... Hoda where you at?
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    Vertigo wrote: »
    Just gonna ignore the argument here, but at least the OP is on to something. He's probably going about it a very dumb way, but making sure Vandor Chewie is always buffed is a very nice defensive bonus for your team. Best way to ensure Vandor Chewie is always buffed? Undispellable buffs.... Hoda where you at?

    Frankly adding HYoda would be unfair coz the regeneration will be sick Nice
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  • InstantDoneWithYou
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    I get a good laugh out of your posts as I assume you haven't tested these thepries and don't have the account to do so either.

    Love to see videos of these teams in action though!

    These teams are for you to try out at your own discretion if your looking for just arena viability one team may not be the solution to that. a team that cant keep u in top 10 i categorize as top 200 team most times its speed that matters you can remove chewy clone wars & add Hyoda for arena viability. As for my arena shard it would be a nightmare for you 260 speed barely gets you onto top 120 as for strategy am d only five star Chimera in top 50 ships in my fleet arena shard also the lowest GP there lol also 13 Unbeaten TW & am a part of strategy unit 105mil GP Guild. I specialize in using seemingly small teams & uncanny strategy to get the job win. I will post links to videos already posted link for Old Ben lead TW viability.
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  • InstantDoneWithYou
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    They will make top 200...

    Can you please tell me on what basis you make this claim? Curious.


    And I can assure you, they wouldn't make top 200 in my shard.

    Speed is what matters in arena so i will say what is the fastest speed of the team in 50th position in your arena thats how fast you need to get. Rex lead currently tops my arena amongst palpitine & traya teams
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    VonZant wrote: »
    Just ran CW Chewie, CHS, Vet Chewie, Vet Han, Raid Han and Vandor Chewie (Get 6 because of the event). Vandor Chewie and CW chewie are great together. Team has Phoenix type protection regen. Defense up from CW Chewie makes them extremely tough. Storm Han with his Zeta would be very to kill and have crazy TM manipulation.

    So a all-in team would be CWC Vandor STH Young Han Raid Han.

    A good TW team where Raid Han and STH is with another team would be CWC Vandor YHS VHS and Vet Chewie.

    A combo with CWC, Captain Han, Vandor and both Vets would be very hard to kill. 2 heals, 2 protection regen, 2 rezzes, 2 dazes and 2 stuns. And passive health and protection regen.

    If I am being cheap and would have to choose between 1 of the 2 new guys to upgrade at 3 or 4* now, I think I would choose Vandor. YHS will be awesome but attackers dont fare as well at low stars like Tanks do.

    Exactly the protection regeneration is mad if i you combine with HYoda Ka Boom CWC Lead , VChewy, Zthan, Zolo Mad Defensive TW Lock Down Team
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    Roopehun wrote: »
    I love your posts. Obviously I was also thinking on what +3 are the best to team up with, and also, who can be the right leader, and your post gets a very different angle than I was getting.

    I recommend Bobba fett. Simply because he's great on its own + has a good leader for the younglings + is a scoundrel, so will be assisted.
    The other potential leader is Lando. Best leader skill, but a bit lackluster otherwise.

    So thats 3 fragile characters so far, and yet my next advice is Zolo, just like youve identified too. Great damage, a lot of buffs, cripplong at atart and a scoundrel, so even gets assist.

    4 fragile characters. We need the tankiest/ccer possible. Gk? Ep? Dn? They all sound horrible lore wise, but still my best bets.

    On another note, while I think the younglings are awesome, the problem is, theres a better duo than them for the same job. Wiggs. I see no way my mock team (or yours) could ever compete a danger zone team.

    They are best on the defensive just remove Yolo and and Hyoda and you may time out battling them Cls For Hyoda on offensive
    Damodamo wrote: »
    @InstantDoneWithYou so second thread about the same subject? I’m guessing nobody stroked your ego enough in the other thread?

    Have you personally zeta’d both of the toons? Have you levelled the new toons to 85 and g10/11? As that’s the only way you can say they are worthwhile!!

    Post your gg account

    Lol when i post a thread about gg account i will postbmy account till then the subject of the matter are the new toons synergy i understand your reluctance to change. The new toons remain a viable team for a collector like me
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  • YaeVizsla
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    Could you stop with these multiple consecutive posts quoting full text? It's poor netiquette.
    Still not a he.
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