In defense of CG (calm down people)

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I'll be the devil's advocate here and defend CG.


The past week has been tumultuous, with DSTB bugs, yoda mythic backlash, hSTR, etc. But some of you folks have definitely overreacted...


YODA MYTHIC

firstly: NOBODY lost any rewards. We're all just assuming that the next time it shows up, there won't be any mods. Now, this definitely may be true, but all they're saying is that they will remove mods until they figure out how to display the thing properly. this DOES NOT AFFECT ALL MYTHICS, so calm down.



DSTB

The "substantial makegood" has yet to show up. If it's bad, I'll be handing out pitchforks, but let's just wait and see. If they compensate us properly, there's no need to get pre-emptively upset.


hSTR

DISCLAIMER: this refers to players who have a GP of about 1.5-2M or above (i.e. played through the CLS meta or before)

The arena teams you've possibly built include Titans, Nightsisters, RJT, zzEP, or the like. RJT murders P1, zzEP can get you 2%, Titans nets 3/5 for Chex Mix, and you're more or less Heroic ready.

TB has already made clear they want strong players to band together and weaker ones to stick together. hSTR is just another step in this direction.

If you're a whale, move to a proper guild. If you're someone who thinks he's not heroic ready, look through your roster, build 3-4 teams and put forth an application on any of the guild recruitment areas.

If you want to play with friends, fine, but don't expect to get Traya or G12+.

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  • Madpup
    271 posts Member
    What are you talking about in regards to hSTR? Most people just want to be compensated fairly for the time they put into a raid. People spending 5times as much time to do whatever tier of the raid they are on compared to how much time they spend on HPit and HAAT and they are only getting maybe 10% of the rewards they would get in those older heroic raids. CG isn't motivating anyone to deal with their boring and unlikeable new raid. All they are doing is locking exlusive content behind it and forcing people to spend money to get it because their lower tiers don't reward with gear to help your teams for the raid.
  • Aliea
    57 posts Member
    CG will never be able to please everyone, that is just a fact. As far as the Hsith raid, my guild is currently building up to it. We are doing T6. Does everyone like it? No. Are there major problems with it? Yes. Is it fair that whale guild members are participating in lower level shards, making it impossible for lower level players to play competitively? No. The people that write code and game rules are not infallible and I don't expect them to be. Bottom line is that if you are unhappy with the game, you can stop playing anytime. For me, playing is my time to have fun. When I build my teams up and make progress I am happy. As long as players are compensated for glitches, bugs and misinformation I can wait.
  • Jookaa
    25 posts Member
    I will say all the frustrations with playing this the sith raid are valid and I can attest to it as well. The thing is the heroic sith rewards are pretty **** worth the effort, so I suggest players stop complaining about what they can’t do and start making a few good teams to contribute to hstr and get yourselves some of the good rewards.
  • Czertik
    113 posts Member
    Well, if they making every reapering event more harder forcing players to spend more gear just to finish him, while prevoiusly it was 3*, something is wrong. And not on my sqad side.
  • EyeG_80ate
    16 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    The system is set up to make strong guilds either internally fight over top 10 rewards or split up

    I have yet to see any evidence of this (and it seems unlikely to be a problem). Guilds will either A) set up a rotation for top 10 (assuming everyone is capable of similar damage numbers and are reasonable humans). 2) If the guild is being carried by a few people with all the best teams, those carrying the guild deserve the top 10 spots (and anyone that thinks otherwise is just being silly)
  • Rebmes
    123 posts Member
    I just don't understand what the issue is with the way mod rewards were displayed on GM Yoda Mythic event. We've seen them displayed like this in the past - showing 1 of each mod shape means you get one of those at random, not all of them, and that's obvious. Anyway it should be an easy fix, we've seen their "generic" mod shape in the past and that should work fine for this, I'm sure.
  • Ravens1113
    1351 posts Member
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    @UltimateSeaDog you think these rewards are fair for a completion for HSTR? I certainly don’t.
  • Fingers crossed, the very apparent problems so many people are flagging up will be addressed. It's in their interests to do so.

    It's a great game though, I enjoy it. Long may it continue and prosper.
  • People do need to calm down here. The overreaction and vitriol to any minor glitch or seeming slight has made it difficult for CG to measure what is actually most pressing to the community. Yes, Sith Raid and HSTR rewards stands out amongst these issues, but for all the other issues, how would CG even prioritize based on community feedback since it's all the same heightened level of entitlement or irrational objections?
  • Controlled venting is not a bad thing. Sometimes just doing so, and seeing others echo it, helps. Sure fixes would be great, but knowing the gas light is flickering for everyone else too, is comforting. Shared experiences, thoughts, etc..
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  • Ravens1113
    1351 posts Member
    Xezee wrote: »
    @Ravens1113
    You're not unlucky. It's just systemic (...)
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    It’s truly amazing. For a typical gear 12 piece you need 40 of one salvage and 30 of another. Given these as typical drops you get 4/70 the required pieces.....5.7% of the salvage needed for mk 12 medpac in the example you showed...so I need to do 19 HSTR raids to get enough salvage and that’s IF they drop each time. Truly amazing. @Xezee
  • MntMan
    170 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Rebel_yell wrote: »
    People do need to calm down here. The overreaction and vitriol to any minor glitch or seeming slight has made it difficult for CG to measure what is actually most pressing to the community. Yes, Sith Raid and HSTR rewards stands out amongst these issues, but for all the other issues, how would CG even prioritize based on community feedback since it's all the same heightened level of entitlement or irrational objections?

    Minor glitch???? Ha. STR Rewards and tier structure/time spent are a minor glitch? That is what has people fired up and angry so everything else that continues to move the bar in the wrong directions (getting rid of "useless (Ha again)" mods from mythic yoda, DSTB not working properly, etc are just adding fuel to the fire, yet despite this most on here have echo'd so far those aren't their biggest concern. STR is. We've given tons of feedback, feedback that is enraged, vocal, fairly unified and to the point and then when they do make a change it is ignored and they do something to exasperate the issue even more. So yeah. Any angry mob, angry about STR is full of salt and vinegar right now so any mistake is being viewed through anything but rose colored lenses. Could we lighten up? Sure. Should we? Up to each person, but if CG continues to go down their path undeterred why shouldn't we?
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  • Dk_rek
    1908 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
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    @UltimateSeaDog you think these rewards are fair for a completion for HSTR? I certainly don’t.

    10000000x better than T4/5/6

    Your rewards should be better do you think they should be x(infinity sign) better ???

    I agree it will take you forever to combine G12+ stuff but it will take everyone else forever x100

    At least ya got the X100

  • Jordylee24
    99 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    Actually I'm not so concerned about the mystics mods as I am about the fact they said the mods were the least significant part of the rewards. If they actually thought that its too bad there was a fuss raised as they'll be sure to nerf the reward mods once they realize how much we all like them.
  • Rebel_yell
    914 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    MntMan wrote: »
    Rebel_yell wrote: »
    People do need to calm down here. The overreaction and vitriol to any minor glitch or seeming slight has made it difficult for CG to measure what is actually most pressing to the community. Yes, Sith Raid and HSTR rewards stands out amongst these issues, but for all the other issues, how would CG even prioritize based on community feedback since it's all the same heightened level of entitlement or irrational objections?

    Minor glitch???? Ha. STR Rewards and tier structure/time spent are a minor glitch? That is what has people fired up and angry so everything else that continues to move the bar in the wrong directions (getting rid of "useless (Ha again)" mods from mythic yoda, DSTB not working properly, etc are just adding fuel to the fire, yet despite this most on here have echo'd so far those aren't their biggest concern. STR is. We've given tons of feedback, feedback that is enraged, vocal, fairly unified and to the point and then when they do make a change it is ignored and they do something to exasperate the issue even more. So yeah. Any angry mob, angry about STR is full of salt and vinegar right now so any mistake is being viewed through anything but rose colored lenses. Could we lighten up? Sure. Should we? Up to each person, but if CG continues to go down their path undeterred why shouldn't we?

    It's almost like you were so excited to get angry at someone that you completely missed the part where I said "Yes, Sith Raid and HSTR rewards stands out amongst these issues, but for all the other issues..."

    So, thank you for proving my point because I was in agreement that those are serious issues the player base should be upset about and you still attacked me.

    Find happiness somewhere brother. You carry too much darkness with you.
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  • Ravens1113 wrote: »
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    @UltimateSeaDog you think these rewards are fair for a completion for HSTR? I certainly don’t.

    Traya shards and early access to gear that grants large stat boosts, including 6 speed per gear piece. Somehow you’re unhappy with this?
  • ShaggyB
    610 posts Member
    edited June 2018
    EyeG_80ate wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    The system is set up to make strong guilds either internally fight over top 10 rewards or split up

    I have yet to see any evidence of this (and it seems unlikely to be a problem). Guilds will either A) set up a rotation for top 10 (assuming everyone is capable of similar damage numbers and are reasonable humans). 2) If the guild is being carried by a few people with all the best teams, those carrying the guild deserve the top 10 spots (and anyone that thinks otherwise is just being silly)

    Bingo. I had to build up from 1 shard payout on heroic rancor, till I could almost solo it. By that time better players in my guild had 7 star han and just let us play through it. Now I'm usually 1st place and the guys not playing can solo it with there cls by himself.

    Same applies for haat and hstr. Top of your guild will get her and then, if they are reasonable... will rotate out till everyone does.
  • ShaggyB
    610 posts Member
    Ravens1113 wrote: »
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    @UltimateSeaDog you think these rewards are fair for a completion for HSTR? I certainly don’t.

    At rank 23 of 50... yeah I do. Now at 1 of 50... no I dont.

    You are in the middle of the pack. Your rewards will be middle of the road.
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