She may be a jedi, but everyone who is such a stickler for lore accuracy, tell me which other jedi from ep9 you want her to have synergy with?
She doesn't need to have synergy with other Resistance Jedi?
There's a point to be made about JTR not having the Jedi tag but absolutely no way is Rey not a Jedi at any point in TROS.
Either remove the tag from other non true Jedi like Ezra and Ahsoka OR give Rey the tag.
Well actually, padawan is a title of jedi. Ahsoka was a jedi padawan, she was never a jedi knight. Ezra however is up for debate.
Yet ahsoka was arguably one of the strongest jedi. Or was she not a jedi when she held her own against the inquisitors or even vader? If not, then I guess the title isn't that important...
She may be a jedi, but everyone who is such a stickler for lore accuracy, tell me which other jedi from ep9 you want her to have synergy with?
She doesn't need to have synergy with other Resistance Jedi?
There's a point to be made about JTR not having the Jedi tag but absolutely no way is Rey not a Jedi at any point in TROS.
Either remove the tag from other non true Jedi like Ezra and Ahsoka OR give Rey the tag.
Well actually, padawan is a title of jedi. Ahsoka was a jedi padawan, she was never a jedi knight. Ezra however is up for debate.
Yet ahsoka was arguably one of the strongest jedi. Or was she not a jedi when she held her own against the inquisitors or even vader? If not, then I guess the title isn't that important...
I love when people dont read. I said she was a jedi, never held a title above padawan though.
Being a jedi requires you to be in the jedi order, so no, when she faced Vader and the Inquisitors she was not a jedi because she had left the jedi order.
She was not one of the strongest jedi as by the time she reached her full potential she was no longer a jedi.
She may be a jedi, but everyone who is such a stickler for lore accuracy, tell me which other jedi from ep9 you want her to have synergy with?
She doesn't need to have synergy with other Resistance Jedi?
There's a point to be made about JTR not having the Jedi tag but absolutely no way is Rey not a Jedi at any point in TROS.
Either remove the tag from other non true Jedi like Ezra and Ahsoka OR give Rey the tag.
Well actually, padawan is a title of jedi. Ahsoka was a jedi padawan, she was never a jedi knight. Ezra however is up for debate.
Yet ahsoka was arguably one of the strongest jedi. Or was she not a jedi when she held her own against the inquisitors or even vader? If not, then I guess the title isn't that important...
I love when people dont read. I said she was a jedi, never held a title above padawan though.
Being a jedi requires you to be in the jedi order, so no, when she faced Vader and the Inquisitors she was not a jedi because she had left the jedi order.
She was not one of the strongest jedi as by the time she reached her full potential she was no longer a jedi.
What else would you like to be wrong about today?
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. Just making the point that having a title of jedi or not makes little difference.
Edit: I see how my previous post would be easily taken wrong. Think of it more like thinking out loud and coming to the conclusion that the title isn't that important.
She may be a jedi, but everyone who is such a stickler for lore accuracy, tell me which other jedi from ep9 you want her to have synergy with?
She doesn't need to have synergy with other Resistance Jedi?
There's a point to be made about JTR not having the Jedi tag but absolutely no way is Rey not a Jedi at any point in TROS.
Either remove the tag from other non true Jedi like Ezra and Ahsoka OR give Rey the tag.
Well actually, padawan is a title of jedi. Ahsoka was a jedi padawan, she was never a jedi knight. Ezra however is up for debate.
Yet ahsoka was arguably one of the strongest jedi. Or was she not a jedi when she held her own against the inquisitors or even vader? If not, then I guess the title isn't that important...
I love when people dont read. I said she was a jedi, never held a title above padawan though.
Being a jedi requires you to be in the jedi order, so no, when she faced Vader and the Inquisitors she was not a jedi because she had left the jedi order.
She was not one of the strongest jedi as by the time she reached her full potential she was no longer a jedi.
What else would you like to be wrong about today?
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. Just making the point that having a title of jedi or not makes little difference.
Edit: I see how my previous post would be easily taken wrong. Think of it more like thinking out loud and coming to the conclusion that the title isn't that important.
I don't think there is a super strong lore reason to make her a Jedi tag if she is the character from the very beginning of the film(EP 9). To be a Jedi, one has to pass a trial. Even Luke wasn't a Jedi until he confronted Vader again and defeats him as told by Yoda in EP6. I honestly don't know why people who are hardcore Star Wars fans would be so confused by this to say that Rey should be a Jedi. IMO, Rey isn't a jedi until the very end of the film after she faces her trial and defeats Palpatine.
So you have to pass a trial to be a Jedi? Where is that rule at?
So are there no longer Jedi Padawan’s? Are they not considered Jedi?
It's pretty well established lore. Padawan's aren't Jedi yet, but they are part of the Jedi Order and are Jedi by proxy, but not full fledged Jedi. The Order was destroyed after Episode 3. Even Kanaan Jarrus had to pass a trial to become a full Jedi after the purge and have the title bestowed upon him in Rebels, as Luke did in episode 6 when he even asked if he was a Jedi yet and Yoda told him no, even though he had been training with Yoda for some time. The only reason people would think Rey is a Jedi at all is speculation; it's not shown or talked about once in The Rise of Skywalker(not that TRoS cared much for pre-established lore anyway).
Padawan is a Jedi title. They then go to Jedi Knight. Since Luke did not go the normal way to become a Jedi he had to face Vader to be one.
Most went through training as their trial not fight someone.
I agree with that assessment, but I believe from lore there must be a trial or trials for a Padawan to graduate so to speak. I don't think they needed to be predefined, but sometimes were simply recognized after as being adequate; for example after Ashoka was acquitted, the council was willing to accept her back into the order and grant her the Knight status citing the events as her trials. I think this idea was still definitely in place during the height of the Order. Obi-Wan in Episode 1 even makes reference to the trials, saying that he feels ready.
Just my 2 cents here. Putting aside lore and how one "becomes" a Jedi, I just think it is weird that CG would not use the final version of Rey (i..e Rey Skywalker, Jedi Knight) for her GL. This new type of character is supposed to be the ultimate, most powerful. Are they going to release another Rey thats a GL? Or will Rey's final version not be a GL? Its just strange. I understand why they made Kylo's GL dark side and not the Ben Solo version because they wanted balance in GL (one light, one dark) to start. I imagine they will eventually release a Ben Solo toon, probably not a GL though.
Just my 2 cents here. Putting aside lore and how one "becomes" a Jedi, I just think it is weird that CG would not use the final version of Rey (i..e Rey Skywalker, Jedi Knight) for her GL. This new type of character is supposed to be the ultimate, most powerful. Are they going to release another Rey thats a GL? Or will Rey's final version not be a GL? Its just strange. I understand why they made Kylo's GL dark side and not the Ben Solo version because they wanted balance in GL (one light, one dark) to start. I imagine they will eventually release a Ben Solo toon, probably not a GL though.
Just my 2 cents here. Putting aside lore and how one "becomes" a Jedi, I just think it is weird that CG would not use the final version of Rey (i..e Rey Skywalker, Jedi Knight) for her GL. This new type of character is supposed to be the ultimate, most powerful. Are they going to release another Rey thats a GL? Or will Rey's final version not be a GL? Its just strange. I understand why they made Kylo's GL dark side and not the Ben Solo version because they wanted balance in GL (one light, one dark) to start. I imagine they will eventually release a Ben Solo toon, probably not a GL though.
I don't think there is a super strong lore reason to make her a Jedi tag if she is the character from the very beginning of the film(EP 9). To be a Jedi, one has to pass a trial. Even Luke wasn't a Jedi until he confronted Vader again and defeats him as told by Yoda in EP6. I honestly don't know why people who are hardcore Star Wars fans would be so confused by this to say that Rey should be a Jedi. IMO, Rey isn't a jedi until the very end of the film after she faces her trial and defeats Palpatine.
So you have to pass a trial to be a Jedi? Where is that rule at?
So are there no longer Jedi Padawan’s? Are they not considered Jedi?
It's pretty well established lore. Padawan's aren't Jedi yet, but they are part of the Jedi Order and are Jedi by proxy, but not full fledged Jedi. The Order was destroyed after Episode 3. Even Kanaan Jarrus had to pass a trial to become a full Jedi after the purge and have the title bestowed upon him in Rebels, as Luke did in episode 6 when he even asked if he was a Jedi yet and Yoda told him no, even though he had been training with Yoda for some time. The only reason people would think Rey is a Jedi at all is speculation; it's not shown or talked about once in The Rise of Skywalker(not that TRoS cared much for pre-established lore anyway).
Padawan is a Jedi title. They then go to Jedi Knight. Since Luke did not go the normal way to become a Jedi he had to face Vader to be one.
Most went through training as their trial not fight someone.
I agree with that assessment, but I believe from lore there must be a trial or trials for a Padawan to graduate so to speak. I don't think they needed to be predefined, but sometimes were simply recognized after as being adequate; for example after Ashoka was acquitted, the council was willing to accept her back into the order and grant her the Knight status citing the events as her trials. I think this idea was still definitely in place during the height of the Order. Obi-Wan in Episode 1 even makes reference to the trials, saying that he feels ready.
Well Luke did go through his trial. Facing Vader the second time was what made him a Jedi according to Yoda before he force ghosted.
Just my 2 cents here. Putting aside lore and how one "becomes" a Jedi, I just think it is weird that CG would not use the final version of Rey (i..e Rey Skywalker, Jedi Knight) for her GL. This new type of character is supposed to be the ultimate, most powerful. Are they going to release another Rey thats a GL? Or will Rey's final version not be a GL? Its just strange. I understand why they made Kylo's GL dark side and not the Ben Solo version because they wanted balance in GL (one light, one dark) to start. I imagine they will eventually release a Ben Solo toon, probably not a GL though.
Future Rey 2.0 GL confirmed.
They gave stated that these aren't the end movie characters, so very possible tbh. Hopefully not for quite some time though.
Just my 2 cents here. Putting aside lore and how one "becomes" a Jedi, I just think it is weird that CG would not use the final version of Rey (i..e Rey Skywalker, Jedi Knight) for her GL. This new type of character is supposed to be the ultimate, most powerful. Are they going to release another Rey thats a GL? Or will Rey's final version not be a GL? Its just strange. I understand why they made Kylo's GL dark side and not the Ben Solo version because they wanted balance in GL (one light, one dark) to start. I imagine they will eventually release a Ben Solo toon, probably not a GL though.
Even tho I went for kylo I still want Rey to have the Jedi tag or at the very least just give her the Jedi tag in PvE , waited to long for the vets to get their resistance tag now they are doing the same to Rey.
Rey PvE Jedi = raids , Geo territory battle , Geo challenge . Really don’t seem the harm in this and if she can do all of Geo territory battle with Jedi theN congratulations the legend lives up to the name and time,effort and money was worth it.
Even tho I went for kylo I still want Rey to have the Jedi tag or at the very least just give her the Jedi tag in PvE , waited to long for the vets to get their resistance tag now they are doing the same to Rey.
Rey PvE Jedi = raids , Geo territory battle , Geo challenge . Really don’t seem the harm in this and if she can do all of Geo territory battle with Jedi theN congratulations the legend lives up to the name and time,effort and money was worth it.
Because the jedi are about to get some love when they revisit Clone Wars, then mixed with Rey they will be way way way OP.
I don’t read the books or comics anymore. The bridge was burnt with me when they redacted 30 years of fiction. I stick to the movies only. Only way to be safe. Therefore, Imo, Rey is not a Jedi. Neither is Leia. Disney would have redacted the previous movies if they could, which is counterintuitive since that’s what they bought into. We have seen them try. Last Jedi. They failed. Failed even worse trying to correct the course. Now, they are just Star Trek. No offense to you Trekkies.
I don’t read the books or comics anymore. The bridge was burnt with me when they redacted 30 years of fiction. I stick to the movies only. Only way to be safe. Therefore, Imo, Rey is not a Jedi. Neither is Leia.
I don’t think Rey is a Jedi any more than Kylo is a Sith. They are both Force Users who may have technical knowledge of their respective alignments, but ultimately they are doing their own thing and when under duress seem to lack any true discipline or control. They are both unbalanced!!
I guess you can argue the winds of change are blowing, but it seems their force sensitivity serves their own purpose which seems to make them more like Palpy and not the mark of any manner of true enlightenment or progression. Movies like this to continue to justify emotional hooks.
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Well actually, padawan is a title of jedi. Ahsoka was a jedi padawan, she was never a jedi knight. Ezra however is up for debate.
Yet ahsoka was arguably one of the strongest jedi. Or was she not a jedi when she held her own against the inquisitors or even vader? If not, then I guess the title isn't that important...
I love when people dont read. I said she was a jedi, never held a title above padawan though.
Being a jedi requires you to be in the jedi order, so no, when she faced Vader and the Inquisitors she was not a jedi because she had left the jedi order.
She was not one of the strongest jedi as by the time she reached her full potential she was no longer a jedi.
What else would you like to be wrong about today?
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. Just making the point that having a title of jedi or not makes little difference.
Edit: I see how my previous post would be easily taken wrong. Think of it more like thinking out loud and coming to the conclusion that the title isn't that important.
Gotcha.
I agree with that assessment, but I believe from lore there must be a trial or trials for a Padawan to graduate so to speak. I don't think they needed to be predefined, but sometimes were simply recognized after as being adequate; for example after Ashoka was acquitted, the council was willing to accept her back into the order and grant her the Knight status citing the events as her trials. I think this idea was still definitely in place during the height of the Order. Obi-Wan in Episode 1 even makes reference to the trials, saying that he feels ready.
Future Rey 2.0 GL confirmed.
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Well Luke did go through his trial. Facing Vader the second time was what made him a Jedi according to Yoda before he force ghosted.
They gave stated that these aren't the end movie characters, so very possible tbh. Hopefully not for quite some time though.
You just watched it and you didn't even realize.
Rey PvE Jedi = raids , Geo territory battle , Geo challenge . Really don’t seem the harm in this and if she can do all of Geo territory battle with Jedi theN congratulations the legend lives up to the name and time,effort and money was worth it.
Because the jedi are about to get some love when they revisit Clone Wars, then mixed with Rey they will be way way way OP.
Rey isn’t dead.
People change. Even Jedi.
I liked when Mace changed into a stumpy pancake
I liked when people thought Yoda was a badass and then he ran like a **** from the Emperor and hid on a crappy planet for nearly 20 years.
Only a Jedi Master would have such patience.
I guess you can argue the winds of change are blowing, but it seems their force sensitivity serves their own purpose which seems to make them more like Palpy and not the mark of any manner of true enlightenment or progression. Movies like this to continue to justify emotional hooks.