Applause for the patch.

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Preemo_Magin
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edited April 2016
I think initial reaction for many is wth. But if you reed deep down there are good reasons for the change:

This change helps people that didn't stockpile, and avoids having 10% of the player base being level 8 in 17 seconds, absolutely disrupting everyone. It also limits Whale Absolute Supremacy (WAS) and rewards actually playing the game every day. It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.

You may like it or not but I see why they did this change. Also, the NEW gear requirements help slow down whales. They can get to level 8 very fast refreshing like true madmen, but they can't have geared up all the new gear in advance. Otherwise, they would have instantly geared EVERY TOP CHAR to max gear (some even 11) making Arena totally Hoardable by ththe m regardless of how sound their choices where. They will still gear up much faster than FTP but they will also have less information into what works best in the new meta. FTP will suffer but less than otherwise, but can watch what works best as to not invest their extremely limited refreshes on c rap.

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    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.
  • Nonemo
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    I agree with OP. These are the reasons I see too. Pacing is important.
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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

  • Dekayingsoul
    632 posts Member
    edited April 2016
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    I think initial reaction for many is wth. But if you reed deep down there are good reasons for the change:

    This change helps people that didn't stockpile, and avoids having 10% of the player base being level 8 in 17 seconds, absolutely disrupting everyone. It also limits Whale Absolute Supremacy (WAS) and rewards actually playing the game every day. It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.

    You may like it or not but I see why they did this change. Also, the NEW gear requirements help slow down whales. They can get to level 8 very fast refreshing like true madmen, but they can't have geared up all the new gear in advance. Otherwise, they would have instantly geared EVERY TOP CHAR to max gear (some even 11) making Arena totally Hoardable by ththe m regardless of how sound their choices where. They will still gear up much faster than FTP but they will also have less information into what works best in the new meta. FTP will suffer but less than otherwise, but can watch what works best as to not invest their extremely limited refreshes on c rap.

    Very -1

    "Whales" deserve to level up faster as they are paying for a game others are playing for free. To try to slow them down only cripples the other 99% of the players, not sure how that makes any since at all. Personally I do not care what they did, all I care about is content and that was not added. But you can not have a game that promotes players to spend their money then penalize them for doing so. The game is NOT trying to do anything for the "whales" as it needs them, so they can not stock pile as much energy, they can credits which allows them to buy more daily.
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  • Nikoms565
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    Annoy the whales is long term good for the game?? For who exactly?

    This update is trash for everyone. As you said, it annoys whales.

    But it also annoys the F2P and low spender, who can't scrape together Jedi fast enough for the "surprise", as there was no communication. Oh, and I'm sure that everyone loves the fact that there is no new content - just more gear to grind.

    This update only serves to alienate the current player base who are frustrated with a team of developers who not only won't listen, but refuse to implement anything that in ANY way improves actual game play.

    You know what I did with all the energy I saved up today waiting for the update to drop? The same thing I did yesterday...and the week before. Farmed gear and the same lousy shards. And I'll do the same tomorrow, and the next day - until I get bored an quit.

    And I'm no whale - and after this update my wallet is shut to EA.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • Arube
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Annoy the whales is long term good for the game?? For who exactly?

    This update is trash for everyone.

    Not for me :smile:
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    It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.
    This sucks. What if I change my mind? Or if they nerf a toon I am upgrading? I'm F2P and before this s tu pid level cap increase I was happy to have a choice between my best 11-12 toons. I could try different teams, and so on. Now, back to the start: pick up only 5 of them and leave the others, because I don't have resources for 12 lv 80 toons...
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    BentWookie wrote: »
    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

    Well played. And I like to be helpful. That's what I'm here for. Well, actually, to complain about the lack of updates...but I'm starting to learn these ToS while I'm here too now.
  • Berimbolo
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    edited April 2016
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    With some having pre crafted gear and others not, throw in the fact that some gear is not farmable makes this update a complete mess at this point

    If you just took a base arena team of QGJ, Geo, Lumi, Sid, RG or whoever that had the gear pieces added, most characters did

    That's 250 pieces of gear someone has to farm that a person who pre crafted did not, and it wasn't even a day notice, which wouldn't have helped anyway

    With like a 20% drop rate on purple, that's a ridiculous amount of energy refills to catch up

    Brutal
  • Timitock
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    Such defeatist attitudes...

    Leveling to 80 is playing the game...
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    I'm completely and utterly against more gear grind, but... I don't mind the xp increase to slow down jumps to 80 and dare say it seems like a good thing for the game.
  • Nebulous
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    I am not against the gating either. It gives reason to play everyday and be diligent in my effort. I know that I must be selective in who I choose to gear and level first. I am okay with that. Time is something that is available to everyone. I do like that I can now spend my purple skill tokens on other toons as we now need the gold ones. That means we are all on a level playing field. Whales (spenders) have the opportunity to take a head start, but it's not the same as them having the complete control.

    It's the extra gear requirements that is the real issue. If those pieces got extra stats, I'd begrudgingly accept it. But there was no addition to stats. That's a pill which is hard to swallow.



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    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
  • chainsaw
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    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|

    This
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    BentWookie wrote: »
    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

    You mean being a snitch :)
  • chainsaw
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    But I think everyone should be able to get to lvl 80 and MAX gear right away....with no grinding...it should only take a couple hair dryers to get from lvl 8 gear to lvl 20 gear. Why would people want it to be difficult to up a toons gear? Everything should be very simple and easy. I'm so upset I'm gonna go leave a 1 star rating on Google play

    PS. This post was sarcasm
  • Nikoms565
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    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • Big_Boss
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    You know actually they in a way Improved the gear farming...... Not completely but I just noticed that the gear they added have absolutely no stat upgrade but what they did do was put the hair dryer in a challenge.... If you press find you will see it is going to be in the challenges so know those slots that only need those hair dryers like Lumi for example it will be easier to farm and the furnace thing its just as hard it dosent have a increase in difficulty you substitute one grind for the other thats it. The only bad news is that Luminara is know stuck at gear 8 because the 50 things they added are not yet accessible so that means prepare to see a huuuugeee drop of Luminara users
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.
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    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|

    Well I wasted enough xp for 2 months. It could have been replace with something else in rewards for max lvl players. And a lot of players pointed out this solution as well. But you offer a good example of how our opinion is viewed. They read only what they want and apparently so do you :)
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    Come on now @Nikoms565 , @BentWookie has every right to chime in as you (we) have the right to complain about what's happening or not happening.
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    They made the new gear unfarmable at this point, what could possibly be the reason for that? It makes zero sense
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    Big_Boss wrote: »
    The only bad news is that Luminara is know stuck at gear 8 because the 50 things they added are not yet accessible so that means prepare to see a huuuugeee drop of Luminara users

    Good, that adds to more character diversity
  • Nikoms565
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    Come on now @Nikoms565 , @BentWookie has every right to chime in as you (we) have the right to complain about what's happening or not happening.

    He absolutely does. And when I think he's being disingenuous I will let him know it, because he's usually better than that.
    In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie

    In game guild: TNR Uprising
    I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
    *This space left intentionally blank*
  • Arube
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    I'm not defending him because of his position, but he didn't say anything related to the level cap. He was just stating how easily and quickly the minds of people on the internet can switch. I don't think Wookie is moderating for the company either, it's for the benefit of the community (I could be wrong).
    The significance of Critical-Utopian Socialism and Communism bears an inverse relation to historical development.
  • chainsaw
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    Come on now @Nikoms565 , @BentWookie has every right to chime in as you (we) have the right to complain about what's happening or not happening.

    He absolutely does. And when I think he's being disingenuous I will let him know it, because he's usually better than that.

    Oh great one has spoken
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    Timitock wrote: »
    Such defeatist attitudes...

    Leveling to 80 is playing the game...

    If you define playing a game as hitting the Sim button repeatedly, then yes.
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    I wasn't "towing" anything, that is a fact... When people hit 70 they were complaining about all the exp going to waste.
    You can't please everyone. People are just different.

    I am sorry you feel like you are getting peed on, usually when I feel like that's going to happen I don't stand there and complain, I get out of the way, but that's just me. :)
  • J7000
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    I JUST WANT MY WASTED XP BACK
  • Big_Boss
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    chainsaw wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    Come on now @Nikoms565 , @BentWookie has every right to chime in as you (we) have the right to complain about what's happening or not happening.

    He absolutely does. And when I think he's being disingenuous I will let him know it, because he's usually better than that.

    Oh great one has spoken

    Lmao!!!!!!
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