Applause for the patch.

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    Timitock wrote: »
    Such defeatist attitudes...

    Leveling to 80 is playing the game...

    If you define playing a game as hitting the Sim button repeatedly, then yes.

    Well said
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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

    Beh
  • Barrok
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    Without Wookie these forums would be a complete disaster. While other mods help, he generally keeps this place nice and tidy. I wouldn't attack him like that, seems completely unfair.
  • Ackturi
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    Timitock wrote: »
    Such defeatist attitudes...

    Leveling to 80 is playing the game...

    If you define playing a game as hitting the Sim button repeatedly, then yes.

    Do you guys always auto your fights if you don't use sim? I only use sim to get rid of them then I play without any auto. Even just to get gear. But then again I'm only level 52, started around when I got my s7.
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    The issue that just killed the player base is the Gear change, end of story. Some didn't want the level increase but they lost it once this last change was added.

    Players were already off balance with the meta change, not knowing who to promote to Level 80. Now they have serious gear upgrade issues, great job EA!!!
  • Arube
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    The issue that just killed the player base is the Gear change, end of story. Some didn't want the level increase but they lost it once this last change was added.

    Players were already off balance with the meta change, not knowing who to promote to Level 80. Now they have serious gear upgrade issues, great job EA!!!

    You cannot definitively say that the small gear change is the cause of people not wanting to play anymore. You have no idea what their future plans are, and what will be added in due time.
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    After some thought I understand the xp situation. What I dont understand, and this is something that makes ZERO sense, is the last minute gear change with absolutely no way to farm said gear. Anyone who had some gear pre patch will have a massive advantage for a long time. Worse, they added those stupid gold mats. Players asked for less grind....it gets 10 times worse.
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    I wasn't "towing" anything, that is a fact... When people hit 70 they were complaining about all the exp going to waste.
    You can't please everyone. People are just different.

    I am sorry you feel like you are getting peed on, usually when I feel like that's going to happen I don't stand there and complain, I get out of the way, but that's just me. :)

    You mean we should stop playing the game. Thanks for the advice and before answering try reading all replies. You might find you were actually wrong.
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    I wasn't "towing" anything, that is a fact... When people hit 70 they were complaining about all the exp going to waste.
    You can't please everyone. People are just different.

    I am sorry you feel like you are getting peed on, usually when I feel like that's going to happen I don't stand there and complain, I get out of the way, but that's just me. :)

    You mean we should stop playing the game. Thanks for the advice and before answering try reading all replies. You might find you were actually wrong.

    I respect your opinion.. And if you read my reply, I just stated that there were posts complaining when people hit 70 and that there are people that think differently.

    Nothing wrong with that. Why is that a big deal? There is no "Right" or "Wrong", I was one of the People that thought it would be nice to have the exp reward converted to credits.

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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

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  • GiranKenor
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    edited April 2016
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    Players were already off balance with the meta change, not knowing who to promote to Level 80. Now they have serious gear upgrade issues, great job EA!!!
    I'm not going to promote any toon till I see everybody using it in arena.
    And this sucks. But as F2P I can't waste resources and still hit the best 20 in arena.
    Great job EA! (FU for GG too, again)
  • Ackturi
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    GiranKenor wrote: »
    Players were already off balance with the meta change, not knowing who to promote to Level 80. Now they have serious gear upgrade issues, great job EA!!!
    I'm not going to promote any toon till I see everybody using it in arena.
    And this sucks. But as F2P I can't waste resources and still hit the best 20 in arena

    Why not just look at your characters in other game modes and see how they fair? Are you going to follow every other player?
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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

    BentWookie, Ever considered running for Governor or President?

    Rabi or monk he is
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    I wasn't "towing" anything, that is a fact... When people hit 70 they were complaining about all the exp going to waste.
    You can't please everyone. People are just different.

    I am sorry you feel like you are getting peed on, usually when I feel like that's going to happen I don't stand there and complain, I get out of the way, but that's just me. :)

    You mean we should stop playing the game. Thanks for the advice and before answering try reading all replies. You might find you were actually wrong.

    I respect your opinion.. And if you read my reply, I just stated that there were posts complaining when people hit 70 and that there are people that think differently.

    Nothing wrong with that. Why is that a big deal? There is no "Right" or "Wrong", I was one of the People that thought it would be nice to have the exp reward converted to credits.

    So was I. And I am actually ok with the lvl cap increase but your previous statement hit a spot since we could use now that wasted xp.
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    I wasn't "towing" anything, that is a fact... When people hit 70 they were complaining about all the exp going to waste.
    You can't please everyone. People are just different.

    I am sorry you feel like you are getting peed on, usually when I feel like that's going to happen I don't stand there and complain, I get out of the way, but that's just me. :)

    You mean we should stop playing the game. Thanks for the advice and before answering try reading all replies. You might find you were actually wrong.

    I respect your opinion.. And if you read my reply, I just stated that there were posts complaining when people hit 70 and that there are people that think differently.

    Nothing wrong with that. Why is that a big deal? There is no "Right" or "Wrong", I was one of the People that thought it would be nice to have the exp reward converted to credits.

    So was I. And I am actually ok with the lvl cap increase but your previous statement hit a spot since we could use now that wasted xp.

    Exp will come....I need the credits. There never seems to be enough of those. :/

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    GiranKenor wrote: »
    It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.
    This sucks. What if I change my mind? Or if they nerf a toon I am upgrading? I'm F2P and before this s tu pid level cap increase I was happy to have a choice between my best 11-12 toons. I could try different teams, and so on. Now, back to the start: pick up only 5 of them and leave the others, because I don't have resources for 12 lv 80 toons...

    I have always, every time, without a doubt, even to the point of being harsh and show myself very upset, tolerated character nerfs. It's the worst thing ever that can be done. But if it must absolutely be done, it must be done with lots of care and listening to what the players think can fix it, and not ninja nerfs.

    The whales just like to be on top. Whales, rest assured your auto-upgrade didn't work, but FTP will not char have up to you for 2 months or so. Also, game will last more for you. Hoarding gear already gave you a HUGE advantage because you crafted a lot of gear with the old recipe, and the FTP not only did not, but now is even harder than you with 1/3 of the energy refreshes.

  • XCOM
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    I think initial reaction for many is wth. But if you reed deep down there are good reasons for the change:

    This change helps people that didn't stockpile, and avoids having 10% of the player base being level 8 in 17 seconds, absolutely disrupting everyone. It also limits Whale Absolute Supremacy (WAS) and rewards actually playing the game every day. It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.

    You may like it or not but I see why they did this change. Also, the NEW gear requirements help slow down whales. They can get to level 8 very fast refreshing like true madmen, but they can't have geared up all the new gear in advance. Otherwise, they would have instantly geared EVERY TOP CHAR to max gear (some even 11) making Arena totally Hoardable by ththe m regardless of how sound their choices where. They will still gear up much faster than FTP but they will also have less information into what works best in the new meta. FTP will suffer but less than otherwise, but can watch what works best as to not invest their extremely limited refreshes on c rap.

    Very -1

    "Whales" deserve to level up faster as they are paying for a game others are playing for free. To try to slow them down only cripples the other 99% of the players, not sure how that makes any since at all. Personally I do not care what they did, all I care about is content and that was not added. But you can not have a game that promotes players to spend their money then penalize them for doing so. The game is NOT trying to do anything for the "whales" as it needs them, so they can not stock pile as much energy, they can credits which allows them to buy more daily.

    +1

    PS Devs hate us, they hate players, simple as that... How can anyone think getting 50 of anything just to get 1 piece of gear is ok... Then dilute it to anothe 50... For a FTP it takes about 13 days without refreshes to get 1 of those 50 gears required... We all like the game and put up, but eventually patience will run out... Or another Star Wars game will come out.
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    Berimbolo wrote: »
    They made the new gear unfarmable at this point, what could possibly be the reason for that? It makes zero sense

    Reason is it requires client update, and also hints the update is around the corner.
  • GiranKenor
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    edited April 2016
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    Ackturi wrote: »
    Why not just look at your characters in other game modes and see how they fair? Are you going to follow every other player?

    Yes, I am. If among the best 20 arena teams there are the same toons there should be a reason, no? For ex. you can see how many GS there... Who ever wanted it, before knowing how OP he is?
  • J7000
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    The update is nothing but a stall tactic. Its bad.. real bad. But please quit attacking mods because you are mad at the design team or some management suits.
  • FlyPhish
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    edited April 2016
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    chainsaw wrote: »
    But I think everyone should be able to get to lvl 80 and MAX gear right away....with no grinding...it should only take a couple hair dryers to get from lvl 8 gear to lvl 20 gear. Why would people want it to be difficult to up a toons gear? Everything should be very simple and easy. I'm so upset I'm gonna go leave a 1 star rating on Google play

    PS. This post was sarcasm

    This chainsaw guy is a real mouth-breather.
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    J7000 wrote: »
    The update is nothing but a stall tactic. Its bad.. real bad. But please quit attacking mods because you are mad at the design team or some management suits.

    Yeah. Attack CG/EA
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    XCOM wrote: »
    I think initial reaction for many is wth. But if you reed deep down there are good reasons for the change:

    This change helps people that didn't stockpile, and avoids having 10% of the player base being level 8 in 17 seconds, absolutely disrupting everyone. It also limits Whale Absolute Supremacy (WAS) and rewards actually playing the game every day. It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.

    You may like it or not but I see why they did this change. Also, the NEW gear requirements help slow down whales. They can get to level 8 very fast refreshing like true madmen, but they can't have geared up all the new gear in advance. Otherwise, they would have instantly geared EVERY TOP CHAR to max gear (some even 11) making Arena totally Hoardable by ththe m regardless of how sound their choices where. They will still gear up much faster than FTP but they will also have less information into what works best in the new meta. FTP will suffer but less than otherwise, but can watch what works best as to not invest their extremely limited refreshes on c rap.

    Very -1

    "Whales" deserve to level up faster as they are paying for a game others are playing for free. To try to slow them down only cripples the other 99% of the players, not sure how that makes any since at all. Personally I do not care what they did, all I care about is content and that was not added. But you can not have a game that promotes players to spend their money then penalize them for doing so. The game is NOT trying to do anything for the "whales" as it needs them, so they can not stock pile as much energy, they can credits which allows them to buy more daily.

    +1

    PS Devs hate us, they hate players, simple as that... How can anyone think getting 50 of anything just to get 1 piece of gear is ok... Then dilute it to anothe 50... For a FTP it takes about 13 days without refreshes to get 1 of those 50 gears required... We all like the game and put up, but eventually patience will run out... Or another Star Wars game will come out.

    13 days if you use 129 energy. But daily game offers two Missions energy refills, which cuts time to 7 days. There's bonus energy (another refill) that cuts time in 1/3 or about 4 days. And two energy refills a day is 100 crystals which most everyone that plays get for free everyday, making that grind 1 day and 12 hours.

    You argument is exaggerating things, like saying a person that is 6 feet, is really 30 feet. Can you see how different things are?

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    XCOM wrote: »
    I think initial reaction for many is wth. But if you reed deep down there are good reasons for the change:

    This change helps people that didn't stockpile, and avoids having 10% of the player base being level 8 in 17 seconds, absolutely disrupting everyone. It also limits Whale Absolute Supremacy (WAS) and rewards actually playing the game every day. It also forces people to be very very selective on who to upgrade with lasting consequences in team setup.

    You may like it or not but I see why they did this change. Also, the NEW gear requirements help slow down whales. They can get to level 8 very fast refreshing like true madmen, but they can't have geared up all the new gear in advance. Otherwise, they would have instantly geared EVERY TOP CHAR to max gear (some even 11) making Arena totally Hoardable by ththe m regardless of how sound their choices where. They will still gear up much faster than FTP but they will also have less information into what works best in the new meta. FTP will suffer but less than otherwise, but can watch what works best as to not invest their extremely limited refreshes on c rap.

    Very -1

    "Whales" deserve to level up faster as they are paying for a game others are playing for free. To try to slow them down only cripples the other 99% of the players, not sure how that makes any since at all. Personally I do not care what they did, all I care about is content and that was not added. But you can not have a game that promotes players to spend their money then penalize them for doing so. The game is NOT trying to do anything for the "whales" as it needs them, so they can not stock pile as much energy, they can credits which allows them to buy more daily.

    +1

    PS Devs hate us, they hate players, simple as that... How can anyone think getting 50 of anything just to get 1 piece of gear is ok... Then dilute it to anothe 50... For a FTP it takes about 13 days without refreshes to get 1 of those 50 gears required... We all like the game and put up, but eventually patience will run out... Or another Star Wars game will come out.

    Never understand why people think the Dervs hates "whales", lol they want everyone to be "whales". They don't hate you @XCOM ( @BentWookiee might, jk) they want player to pay. If you don't pay anything they need you to feel like you have to, if you do pay then you feel like you obligated (like me) to stick with the game. Win/win for them, the players who hold their resolve are the ones this game absolutely needs to stay alive, but you will always be tempted by the Dervs.
  • darkensoul
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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

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    I was thinking a cool idea - an olive branch at least - would be retro active (even if it's a percentage) exp points. Is it pretty safe to say that a large majority of players accrued exp Over the past two months just from gearing up? Only in instances when there's a big gap in updates, but I think it would be cool.

    Another thing that would be interesting is trading resources between allies (gear and shards - not crystals or credits).
  • J0K3R
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    Nikoms565 wrote: »
    BentWookie wrote: »
    When people got to level 70 there were threads that were complaints about "wasted exp". :|
    There were far more threads about how people would prefer not to have the level cap increased yet.

    Most polls were 85% (at least) opposed to level cap increase. CG/EA didn't listen to those - what makes you think they listened to the tiny handful of posts to which you are referring?

    People have asked for better communication for months - we got "surprised" instead.

    People have asked for new content - we got Yoda...for the 3rd time.

    People have asked for less grinding - we got more.

    I like you Wookie - if you want to mod, that's cool, but don't try to wade in, towing the company line, **** on our heads and tell us it's raining.

    EA isn't listening. They haven't listened. In months. Implying that they are is insulting.

    The polls im awarebof were made AFTER the decision was made
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  • darkensoul
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    @FlyPhish

    That made me lol
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    MosDefJeff wrote: »
    This thread will be closed. Can't call out company in a thread.

    But while it's open. You're wrong.

    No you're wrong, I, for one, have never closed a thread with EA or CG in the title. I just edit the title to mean the same thing as the OP intended without the call out. I appreciate your help though. :)

    I wrote the name of EA Jesse in the title and they close mine :( why?
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