[MEGA] Road Ahead: April 2021

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  • In all honesty, what is the likelihood they will require KAM?
  • TVF
    36416 posts Member
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Hoard better.

    Didn't say I don't have any to use in the scav did I..... Was just pointing out its easier to get aero's than impulse's

    It's not easier if you hoard G12 gear better. Way more accessible.
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  • Hard crate 6, but I can't remember if it was also available from the wandering scavenger though
  • Saada
    664 posts Member
    TVF wrote: »
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Hoard better.

    Didn't say I don't have any to use in the scav did I..... Was just pointing out its easier to get aero's than impulse's

    It's not easier if you hoard G12 gear better. Way more accessible.
    TVF wrote: »
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Hoard better.

    Didn't say I don't have any to use in the scav did I..... Was just pointing out its easier to get aero's than impulse's

    It's not easier if you hoard G12 gear better. Way more accessible.

    Ummm no. If you never upgrade a toon then every gear is easy.

    As long as your in a guild that can complete the new rancor and get decently placed you will receive 5+ aeros without farming every week and how many r8s have you upgraded?? I'd say not many, if any so that just piles up. While the impulse parts are needed to go from g12 to g13 and depending on which toons you can go through your stash fast.

    But there's no convincing you and I don't really care.....
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…
  • CT_Waxer_7777
    175 posts Member
    edited April 2021
    It’s also worth adding that EP 3 JMK is my favorite character, and if he is gated behind a character I can’t whale on or get, I’m quitting. Because why play this game for 5 years for one character who is impossible for me to get.
    KAM technically isn’t a GL, but we all know he is much harder to unlock than one.
  • Surely bad batch will make the special mission easier and KAM will be required for the opposite GL.
  • CCyrilS wrote: »
    Also curious if OP has any of the other 4 GLs? They don't require those things, so I assume he has them? If not then it sounds like he's just complaining to complain.

    No I do not have any GLs, I was waiting for a GR GL to shoot for and I've been gearing that faction for a while now and it's just discouraging for it to be so exclusive. I guess I'll just have to grind for a couple years. Oh well

    If you’ve been anticipating this for years, you should have at least thought that KAM would be required, (which I’m speculating on) and got in a better guild or realized that you would need a bigger roster.
  • I'm 4.8mil GP, SEE is my only GL and I don't have access to aeromagnifiers yet (nearly got hard 6 crate last conquest). I'm not going to complain about the requirements because if I can't unlock JMK then I'll just work towards another GL.

    Don't get me wrong, I think Kenobi looks awesome, but I'll wait until all the requirements and kit are announced before I decide.

    4.9m GP here and I don't have nd GL's yet. But I'm going or JML first. Because that was my plan this year. I get the feeling that by the time they announce ALL the requirements for JMK I'll be 50% of the way towards the prerequisites JML. Unless some of the prerequisites or JMK turn out to be characters I already have relic'd. We shall see.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Which are all great reasons, that were brought up, and they said they will not set the precedent of breaking the cadence to confirm or deny KAM.

    GLs were new and are done in a way like no other, none of that is true for KAM.

    And as you said you cant fo anything to change your farm for KAM, so this choice also doesnt change anything for anyone. If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    JobiWan66 wrote: »
    Surely bad batch will make the special mission easier and KAM will be required for the opposite GL.

    Agreed, I'm excited to hopefully have that mission seem a little easier.

    (That's is also not a good reason he should be a requirement.)
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Which are all great reasons, that were brought up, and they said they will not set the precedent of breaking the cadence to confirm or deny KAM.

    GLs were new and are done in a way like no other, none of that is true for KAM.

    And as you said you cant fo anything to change your farm for KAM, so this choice also doesnt change anything for anyone. If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.

    So then how is it fair for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?
  • CCyrilS wrote: »
    If I wanted a GL by now I could've had one but I chose not to because I don't like the current ones.

    we all make choices. That's what the game is about. But your choices have consequences and it's not anybody job to fix them for you.

    I'm F2P so there aren't really consequences I'm just talking about how much steeper the reqs are becoming

    They always become steeper. If they didn’t we would still be only required level 75 toons like the EP event.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Which are all great reasons, that were brought up, and they said they will not set the precedent of breaking the cadence to confirm or deny KAM.

    GLs were new and are done in a way like no other, none of that is true for KAM.

    And as you said you cant fo anything to change your farm for KAM, so this choice also doesnt change anything for anyone. If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.

    So then how is it fair for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?

    I didnt say its fair, but it's not really one way or the other.

    I dont feel like he should be a requirement and if i had to bet, i would place money KAM is not a requirement. We will have to see how they plays out.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Which are all great reasons, that were brought up, and they said they will not set the precedent of breaking the cadence to confirm or deny KAM.

    GLs were new and are done in a way like no other, none of that is true for KAM.

    And as you said you cant fo anything to change your farm for KAM, so this choice also doesnt change anything for anyone. If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.

    So then how is it fair for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?

    I didnt say its fair, but it's not really one way or the other.

    I dont feel like he should be a requirement and if i had to bet, i would place money KAM is not a requirement. We will have to see how they plays out.

    Ok thanks for the clarification, in that case we won’t find out for sure until 6/9 then?

  • So then how is it fair profitable for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?

    Fixed that for you. Honestly, if we remember that CG is at the end of the day, a for-profit company, there is an intersection between their interests and player's interests here: They can not monetize, and we can not obtain something if it is locked solely behind a time-gate. Ergo it is likely that they will either provide purchasable packs or another means of obtaining KAM shards, or not have him as a requirement. Making him a hard wall for people who want to spend hurts those whales who want to open their pocketbooks as well as CG's bottom line.
  • nottenst
    672 posts Member
    edited April 2021
    The cadence of announcements for SEE and JML last year was first requirements on August 25 and the final were known by September 23. So, I would expect GL Kenobi to also be fully known within a month
  • Gouj4
    416 posts Member
    nottenst wrote: »
    The cadence of announcements for SEE and JML last year was first requirements on August 25 and the final were known by September 23. So, I would expect GL Kenobi to also be fully known within a month

    Or on the 9th of June which is the date they’ve already said his final requirements will be released, who knows
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator

    So then how is it fair profitable for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?

    Fixed that for you. Honestly, if we remember that CG is at the end of the day, a for-profit company, there is an intersection between their interests and player's interests here: They can not monetize, and we can not obtain something if it is locked solely behind a time-gate. Ergo it is likely that they will either provide purchasable packs or another means of obtaining KAM shards, or not have him as a requirement. Making him a hard wall for people who want to spend hurts those whales who want to open their pocketbooks as well as CG's bottom line.

    But the other side of that is, if he was announced now, players and guilds would push to get the clones to a level to get more shards, and/or bad batch.

    Him being a requirement has an edge there too, even without packs, it's the same as any required toon that comes from an event.
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Which are all great reasons, that were brought up, and they said they will not set the precedent of breaking the cadence to confirm or deny KAM.

    GLs were new and are done in a way like no other, none of that is true for KAM.

    And as you said you cant fo anything to change your farm for KAM, so this choice also doesnt change anything for anyone. If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.

    So then how is it fair for semi-whales with good rosters who cannot get kenobi because of KAM?

    I didnt say its fair, but it's not really one way or the other.

    I dont feel like he should be a requirement and if i had to bet, i would place money KAM is not a requirement. We will have to see how they plays out.

    Ok thanks for the clarification, in that case we won’t find out for sure until 6/9 then?

    Correct, we will not find out if he is not required until after the last batch is released.
  • Ultra
    11369 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Is it really a RNG mission if it has been perfected by top guilds to the point it doesn't rely on RNG?
  • TVF
    36416 posts Member
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Hoard better.

    Didn't say I don't have any to use in the scav did I..... Was just pointing out its easier to get aero's than impulse's

    It's not easier if you hoard G12 gear better. Way more accessible.
    TVF wrote: »
    Saada wrote: »
    TVF wrote: »
    Hoard better.

    Didn't say I don't have any to use in the scav did I..... Was just pointing out its easier to get aero's than impulse's

    It's not easier if you hoard G12 gear better. Way more accessible.

    Ummm no. If you never upgrade a toon then every gear is easy.

    As long as your in a guild that can complete the new rancor and get decently placed you will receive 5+ aeros without farming every week and how many r8s have you upgraded?? I'd say not many, if any so that just piles up. While the impulse parts are needed to go from g12 to g13 and depending on which toons you can go through your stash fast.

    But there's no convincing you and I don't really care.....

    That's fine. I know some people don't care about facts here.

    I just checked and I have enough g12 gear to do over 20 impulse detectors, vs the 8 aeros I could do. And the person that started the thread you posted in can't get a single aero mat, but they can certainly farm g12 gear.

    You may not like that it's possible to hoard way more impulse detectors than you have, but it doesn't make it untrue.
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  • TVF
    36416 posts Member
    *untrue
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  • Ultra wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Nauros wrote: »
    KAM. As was said in the megathread, they previously said that other GLs won't be required even before all requirements for the second batch were out. So them refusing to say either way on KAM is just "yes, but we don't want you to get angry yet".

    Why, is KAM a GL?

    Otherwise there is no connection at all.

    Because he is harder to earn than a Gl and can only be unlocked through an RNG mission that is really only perfected by the top guilds. Not to mention you can’t whale on KAM…

    Is it really a RNG mission if it has been perfected by top guilds to the point it doesn't rely on RNG?

    The entire point here is only the top guilds have access to KAM. That doesn’t help the other 99% of the player base.
  • First of all, that was the best Road Ahead post I can remember in a long while!

    CAT!!!! 99% of this thread is about JMK, which I get. But I'm probably more excited about CAT than anything else. Oddly enough, if there was one toon that could get this f2p tryhard to open up the wallet, it would have been a new, OP version of Ahsoka. And they put her somewhere I can't pay $ to get her XD I'm still super excited about her though.

    KAM being a possible requirement for JMK does have me bummed. I have beaten the KAM mission around 12-15 times myself, but I spent too much time tethered to a guild that wasn't taking the mission seriously. If my new guild keeps up their pace from the last LSTB, I will get him 7* in September. I would much rather get JMK sooner than that, but if KAM is required, I'll just dump my hoarded stash and get SEE instead. C'est la vie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Finally, really excited to hear that they are looking into tuning the balance in Conquest
  • Just Rework Mace already.
  • Kyno
    32087 posts Moderator
    xavnado wrote: »
    Just Rework Mace already.

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    Couldnt decided which one to post, so doubled up.
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  • This is just a question to the devs to get some piece of mind and also potentially save backlash from the community. Can we please get confirmation that the new GL will not be blocked behind Kam? A lot of newer or smaller guild players start to prepare for the new GL Kenobi they don't want to waste all the resources and the find out in June that Kam is a requirement that may take them years to unlock.

    I would happily start to prepare for GL Kenobi but don't want to be stuck for a year while my guild try and unlock Kam. We currently get 6-10 shards every tb and I don't want to have to leave my guild to have a chance of unlock. I want to be excited about this GL and the direction of the game but it is hard to be excited without confirmation of Kam not being needed.

    (Don't break up guilds please)

    Kind regards
    A Noob Player
  • Devian
    662 posts Member
    edited April 2021
    Kyno wrote: »
    If he is a requirement, you either have him or you don't, and that's is that.
    Releasing them in pairs has been exciting but difficult for players - not only does it decrease the time in the spotlight for each unit, and it can be very difficult to unlock them together if you really enjoy both of the factions these units are focused on improving.
    it would be so much fun to make him a requirement, like rofling over whole point of making 1 GL in road ahead
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