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Devian
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With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

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  • Monel
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    Won't know until it happens. Out of precaution perhaps save your JMK for offense.
  • CCyrilS
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    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.
  • SemiGod
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.

    They also assume a third thing, which is that someone from CG has actually tested Mace and is able to answer their question.
  • CCyrilS
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    SemiGod wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.

    They also assume a third thing, which is that someone from CG has actually tested Mace and is able to answer their question.

    That's why we won't know until we see.
  • Antario
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    Are they going to rework the Endurance as well?
    That's me! https://swgoh.gg/p/337141285/
  • CCyrilS
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    Antario wrote: »
    Are they going to rework the Endurance as well?

    There hasn't been any indication of such, that I know of.
  • Devian
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.
    Stat manipulation is a very strong mechanic and While Kenobi is a GL and Mace has TW omicron that requires GL Jedi allies it's no braner to assume that Kenobi's team becomes much stronger at tw. This leads to only one question - who can counter Kenobi's team at TW if currently their are quite few weak counters besides a mirror team.
    Precaution is something that helps to evade disaster.
  • CCyrilS
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    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.
    Stat manipulation is a very strong mechanic and While Kenobi is a GL and Mace has TW omicron that requires GL Jedi allies it's no braner to assume that Kenobi's team becomes much stronger at tw. This leads to only one question - who can counter Kenobi's team at TW if currently their are quite few weak counters besides a mirror team.
    Precaution is something that helps to evade disaster.

    Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it. We aren't talking about wearing a helmet while dirt bike riding, we're talking about if our video game might get harder.
  • SemiGod
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    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    With Mace's rework at hand, will Low Vader be able to get through Kenobi team at TW?
    Currently Lord Vader + Maul barely manages to defeat Kenobi with cat, same as MLuke, but with such a boost to Kenobi will he be able to win with at least 16 banners?

    You're already assuming 2 things. One, that they will use Mace with JMK, and 2 that they will put him on defense.

    I wouldn't worry about something here before it even happens.
    Stat manipulation is a very strong mechanic and While Kenobi is a GL and Mace has TW omicron that requires GL Jedi allies it's no braner to assume that Kenobi's team becomes much stronger at tw. This leads to only one question - who can counter Kenobi's team at TW if currently their are quite few weak counters besides a mirror team.
    Precaution is something that helps to evade disaster.

    Maces omicron doesn’t require GR Jedi allies,

    Although I get what ur saying since his reg unique grants GR Jedi allies foresight for 1 turn whenever an enemy with shatter point is damaged, and since his omicron applies shatterpoint during every ally turn, it would cause a frenzy of foresight.
  • Looooki
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    Antario wrote: »
    Are they going to rework the Endurance as well?

    No supporting ship either ...
  • SemiGod
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    The real question we should be asking is, how long will it take until CG nerfs Mace?

    It’s practically inevitable based off of their track record
  • Black_ray_of_hope
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    Given their track record, they probably haven't tested Mace in a JMK team.
    So they dont know the answer either.
  • Devian
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    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

  • Devian
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    SemiGod wrote: »
    Maces omicron doesn’t require GR Jedi allies,
    ok, it requires LS allies to decrease enemy's stats and while they are GRJ, they'll gain foresight and heal themselves each time the deal dmg to enemy with shatterpoint..And with TW omicron - each turn.

  • kayd_mon
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    Antario wrote: »
    Are they going to rework the Endurance as well?

    I wouldn't expect that. That ship is completely replaced by Negotiator, and is barely even worth using even before you have Negotiator.
  • 24_Tuesdays
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    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    long vader?
    hello
  • chpMINIsolo_77
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    24_Tuesdays wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    long vader?

    Cousin of Low Vader
  • 24_Tuesdays
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    chpMINIsolo_77 wrote: »
    24_Tuesdays wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    long vader?

    Cousin of Low Vader

    too many vaders
    hello
  • DaarthBrewer
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    24_Tuesdays wrote: »

    too many vaders

    Invasion of the Vaders.
    Make Bronzium autoplay opening an option.
  • Jkane
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    DaarthBrewer wrote: »
    24_Tuesdays wrote: »

    too many vaders

    Invasion of the Vaders.

    In-Vaders?
  • DaarthBrewer
    DaarthBrewer
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    In-law Vaders.
    Make Bronzium autoplay opening an option.
  • Wed_Santa
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    LoL Vader?
  • Monel
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    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    Long? Do tell!
  • Piewalker
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    Monel wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    Long? Do tell!

    Palpy hooked him up with longer legs?
  • CCyrilS
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    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    Banging your head against the wall is also something players can do.
  • CCyrilS
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    Monel wrote: »
    Devian wrote: »
    CCyrilS wrote: »
    [Precautions are pointless if there's nothing you do about it.
    asking devs to answer concerns about Long Vader is something players can do.

    Long? Do tell!

    Ask Padmé
  • Jpfit262
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    I’m holding out any excitement for mace … they have been radio silent since the interview and have yet to post anything official on here. I wouldn’t put it past CG to be messing with us. Most likely scenario is they don’t upgrade his kit until after conquest and TW. IIRC he has a TW Omni so updating his kit and allowing folks to use it right away is not a CG move.
  • CCyrilS
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    Jpfit262 wrote: »
    I’m holding out any excitement for mace … they have been radio silent since the interview and have yet to post anything official on here. I wouldn’t put it past CG to be messing with us. Most likely scenario is they don’t upgrade his kit until after conquest and TW. IIRC he has a TW Omni so updating his kit and allowing folks to use it right away is not a CG move.

    Radio silent...over the weekend... yeah, weird
  • SemiGod
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    Yeah it’s so strange how they haven’t said anything during the weekend, very strange really, it’s honestly so strange that I literally can’t wrap my head around why they aren’t working when it’s their day off & they aren’t being paid.
  • Looooki
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    How abt Vader unmasked ?
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