This update has some major flaws, our guild of 400 million cant hit 130 million crate simply because we dont have enough jabbas, that means we can't gain anymore aeromagnifiers. And even if we did hit 130 million we would be spending that precious relic 3 material just for 1/10th of the rewards we were already getting from crancor.
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And you can get all the gear from raids from conquest as well what is your point?
Just saying they are available elsewhere... Many of us have more aeros than we cn use right now, so it's nice to have more of a choice on what we get from rewards...
Yes sure, its more of a choice if you are in a guild that is gonna hit 260mil tickets. If not best you gonna get is 675 to 1450 raid 3 currency, which is what 530 currency for every 2 impulse detectors, 10 gold gear per 1 impulse detector, you get 40 gold gear and lose GET 1 and 2 currency plus im pretty sure getting crafted kyro tech is worth more than 40 gold gear
So because they are available elsewhere, you are ok with cg taking away major amounts of raid rewards?
Just the most depressing thing though, brand New raids out, we average about 7.5m GP per player, and it’s a waste of time to use the mechanics. Just back to some stale HSTR.
Also, it would be much easier at this point for them to simply alter what there is in the boxes than to go back to the old system. I'm not saying it's better than the old, but let's aim for something which they might actually do, and there's no way in hell that they're going to go back to the old raid system now. They've never rolled back a change this big, so lets get them to modify it so that the promises in the RA weren't just a pile of ****.
Crancor is stale sure but what about every other guild under 400mil that will be stock doing the hsith for the foreseeable future, isnt that more stale?
I dont see in a million year for them to be adding crancor rewards to the hsith raid for everyone else that isnt the top 5% of the player base who cant do the new raid
I feel like you're missing my point. I was saying that they shouldn't bring back the crancor, but that they should make the rewards for Krayt what they promised. That way a guild which was at crancor level previously would be doing the Krayt, and getting the rewards from that which would match what they would have gotten if crancor still existed, without having to go back to HSith. It is an absolute joke that guilds are now thinking of going back to HSTR rather than Krayt and just shows that CG have catastrophically misjudged rewards levels at the lower end of Krayt. CG need to do better, but I think we're more likely to see movement by asking for rewards for Krayt to change than by bringing back the snoozefest that was crancor.
Yeah i think i didnt read your post properly sorry
It is cute you think they misjudged anything. This is clearly nothing more than a deliberate nerf that they hope pass off to the players. And it will probably work. Because the whales don't care and the casuals who don't visit the forums don't pay enough attention to notice they are getting nerfed.
It's alright, I think everyone's a bit wound up/let down by the state of this update. MTFBWY
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, some of the recent changes to the gear economy have actually been positive IMO, especially in gearing older characters to G12. It felt like they were easing the overall gear crunch so that relics were more achievable. Obviously this most recent change is a few steps backwards.
Thinking of anyone in particular?
I don't see the problem with giving guilds the *choice* of what raid they do. CG would have to dramatically alter the reward structure to even come close to parity of what CPIT provided. Currently every member would have to do 4.7M in points in Krayt to get the same amount of MKIII currency to get 7 aeros. My guild cleared CPIT with 12 people max doing it. And it wasnt the same 12 but it was easily cleared by a handful of players. That is a HUGE change in guild member play if you expect all 50 to do high end points every raid. So unless they dramatically restructure you getting the same MKIII currency from the 234M reward box to the 94M reward box, this is a huge nerf to the reward structure.
…and that’s exactly what I was saying they should do. You should have read my post. Completely reworking the krayt rewards is the only way they can make good on their word.
Why not change the other raids? Well, because as they are they just aren’t set up to provide a challenge to higher end guilds, or really anyone with 300m+ GP, without a complete rework. As you said, many guilds were clearing CPit easily with a handful of members. HSTR could be soloed. So there needs to be something harder (Krayt is the clear choice) with a reward track to match and exceed the old rewards structure. Reworking an old raid is going to take more time than it is worth, and won’t be well received (‘member the CPit launch?). Krayt is well set up to provide the challenging game play needed. The rewards need improving.
Beyond that, this is a major change to raid structure. CG aren’t going to roll it back, no matter how much we **** and moan. This is their shiny new thing. They could alter the rewards structure, and have done recently for the conquest path. That’s the battle to fight with them IMO.
Don’t worry they’re so reasonably priced that they might as well not be there.
edit to add. Getting top 2-5 in cpit got you 800 get 2 or a little more than 12 kyros worth. Scoring 3.4 million points in a guild doing 130 million gets you 4025 raid 2 tokens so just over 10 kyros.
Bahahhahahahahgagagagagagahahagagagga 2000 for 5 for 5 XD
Wow, that’s awful.
bro...in a few raid repetitions, this raid won't present a challenge either unless they change the gated factions often...like every month or two which i doubt they will do. but even so, you overestimate the value of raids. they, like assault battles and minor events like that are a vehicle to deliver rewards. they present a challenge of "new content" for the first few runs but after that it becomes a chore or necessary evil to get rewards to gear up your roster for other events that most like more like gac or tw or tb...or conquest for the truly insane. so sure, rework the raid rewards...that's one way of doing it and i'm not against that but that takes actual work to think through on what imaginary gear item is worth what to devalue it in some way. but they dont have to rework an old raid at all. the other 3 legacy raids are available to select now. theres nothing that requires our 500M+ GP guild from playing any of them. they can easily turn on CPIT as well. but lets be honest...they aren't going to do anything
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All the missing gear and GET mats from not having CRancor (and only 1 raid at a time) is pretty disappointing.