The New Advantage **DEV Explanation Within**

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  • Oootini
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    How about jedi knight guardian ability block on crit? Watch out for the new OP toon

    Lol
  • Fighton
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    I favorite part of this thread

    "Fotp 3x attk finally fix, definitely .(well probably )"

    Long live fotp triple bomb.....not that it happens often..........but it's funny as heck when it does
  • KAULI
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    Now that they will introduce better defense and fortification is when advantage might shine
  • RAYRAY
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    Ok, based on the level of detail that post contains now I am convinced that they have all the details about the tuning changes by character that we as a community are asking for. @CG_Method --thanks for that thorough and well thought out description of the changes to Advantage! Hopefully we will get a character by character break down in the next day before the patch.
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    CG_Method wrote: »
    Advantage will cause multi-hit moves (e.g. Rey's Flurry of Blows, Magmatrooper's Line of Fire) to crit each hit.

    3 Rey hits in one turn, all crit? Just wow. She will need a huge nerf for a Phasma(L)/Rey team to not to be OP.
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    Thanks for the reply CG_Method!
  • RAYRAY
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    Jedi2407 wrote: »
    CG_Method wrote: »
    Advantage will cause multi-hit moves (e.g. Rey's Flurry of Blows, Magmatrooper's Line of Fire) to crit each hit.

    3 Rey hits in one turn, all crit? Just wow. She will need a huge nerf for a Phasma(L)/Rey team to not to be OP.

    Its potentially 4 if she has a positive status effect, all critting would be well over 20k damage now. That may be different tomorrow though.
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    rainpro wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply CG_Method!

    +1
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    RAYRAY wrote: »
    Jedi2407 wrote: »
    CG_Method wrote: »
    Advantage will cause multi-hit moves (e.g. Rey's Flurry of Blows, Magmatrooper's Line of Fire) to crit each hit.

    3 Rey hits in one turn, all crit? Just wow. She will need a huge nerf for a Phasma(L)/Rey team to not to be OP.

    Its potentially 4 if she has a positive status effect, all critting would be well over 20k damage now. That may be different tomorrow though.

    I don't see how it possibly can't be different tomorrow. Not nerfing Rey would be the opposite of rebalancing the game.
  • RAYRAY
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    Jedi2407 wrote: »
    RAYRAY wrote: »
    Jedi2407 wrote: »
    CG_Method wrote: »
    Advantage will cause multi-hit moves (e.g. Rey's Flurry of Blows, Magmatrooper's Line of Fire) to crit each hit.

    3 Rey hits in one turn, all crit? Just wow. She will need a huge nerf for a Phasma(L)/Rey team to not to be OP.

    Its potentially 4 if she has a positive status effect, all critting would be well over 20k damage now. That may be different tomorrow though.

    I don't see how it possibly can't be different tomorrow. Not nerfing Rey would be the opposite of rebalancing the game.

    I am a rey supporter, she is great but also is probably one of the reasons we need this rebalancing patch. She is just too fast and does too much damage. I predict she will still be high on damage (Maybe one of the highest still) but the other mechanics are going to limit OHKO's and all will be well with the world (err. Galaxy).
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    Edited the title to allow more people to see @CG_Method's response.
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    So Phasma will be a must have for every team, turn meter, speed down and guaranteed crits
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    Edited the title to allow more people to see @CG_Method's response.

    Tks and good idea
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    @CG_Method thanks for the in depth explanation ;)
  • Barrok
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    @CG_Method much appreciated. Can you have someone do this for protection now? :) Thanks!
  • Alexone
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    All i take from this is that aoe's crit on every hit now? What?? Am i the only one who finds this to be potentially OP? Lando? Hi! Is Phasma becoming target no1 to attack and kill before every other character in the game?
  • Gedi
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    @CG_Method thanks you!!
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    Alexone wrote: »
    All i take from this is that aoe's crit on every hit now? What?? Am i the only one who finds this to be potentially OP? Lando? Hi! Is Phasma becoming target no1 to attack and kill before every other character in the game?

    Lando would be easier to KO in your example. Also, I don't target Poggle first when he's there, I just KO the highest damage dealer.

    She has a lot of health and AI does Victory March first a lot. She's spreading that advantage unless you ability block her.
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    How awesome will it be to see Billie Dee's smiling **** all the way down the leaderboards?
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    Alexone wrote: »
    All i take from this is that aoe's crit on every hit now? What?? Am i the only one who finds this to be potentially OP? Lando? Hi! Is Phasma becoming target no1 to attack and kill before every other character in the game?

    Good luck with her health and RG taunt!

    Of course we have no idea how this will all play out, but why wouldn't Phasma now not be on every team?

    In the lead or not
  • Nonemo
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    edited April 2016
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    What I read into this is that if Armour penetration was too powerful and crits were not, then we're going to see a big, across-the-board damage reduction with this update. AOE's may actually have to crit to do the damage they were doing before. And if several attacks by Rey are checked against armour first and then have a +50% crit modifier applied, they may be five figure blows but not necessarily direct killers. Too early to tell.
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    Berimbolo wrote: »
    Alexone wrote: »
    All i take from this is that aoe's crit on every hit now? What?? Am i the only one who finds this to be potentially OP? Lando? Hi! Is Phasma becoming target no1 to attack and kill before every other character in the game?

    Good luck with her health and RG taunt!

    Of course we have no idea how this will all play out, but why wouldn't Phasma now not be on every team?

    In the lead or not

    No more than Poggle. Crit teams can be a thing, and likely a fun fail-safe, after update.
  • thecuriousocelot
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    @SidiousIsPikachu not sure if you've seen this or not - but this might be good news for Sidious (i know he's your favourite). Sid's chance to ignore armour on his basic attack might mean he can deal serious damage from time to time :)

    The only other character* who can ignore armour is... JC! On his special attack :lol:

    edit: *and magmatrooper's AOE...
  • Alexone
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    @SidiousIsPikachu not sure if you've seen this or not - but this might be good news for Sidious (i know he's your favourite). Sid's chance to ignore armour on his basic attack might mean he can deal serious damage from time to time :)

    The only other character who can ignore armour is... JC! On his special attack :lol:

    That's great and all but there is still Dooku leadership in the game...
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    Alexone wrote: »
    @SidiousIsPikachu not sure if you've seen this or not - but this might be good news for Sidious (i know he's your favourite). Sid's chance to ignore armour on his basic attack might mean he can deal serious damage from time to time :)

    The only other character who can ignore armour is... JC! On his special attack :lol:

    That's great and all but there is still Dooku leadership in the game...

    What's a 'dooku'?
  • Bon_El
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    Keep in mind AI triggers Phasma's Fusillade before Victory March. Defense won't be nearly as good as offense. New "tank" Phasma as you try to take her out before she gets 2 turns.
    Phasma, 86 or FOTP, Han or RG, Kylo or Sid, & 88 ??? Hmm
    Looking forward to new combos
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    ObranVox wrote: »
    How awesome will it be to see Billie Dee's smiling **** all the way down the leaderboards?

    Man i'm dying at this comment hahaha, too good.

    Seems as if everyone is catching on that the Phasma + Lando combo will literally be insane. I've had my build ready for it as soon as they mentioned the rework of advantage. Hopefully now I will have the advantage being that I came up with the build before the majority of people lol.
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  • Fantazy
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    The only other character who can ignore armour is... JC! On his special attack :lol:

    Ackbar's third ability has a % of armor penetration
    Magmatrooper's AOE ignores armor as well.

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    Fantazy wrote: »

    The only other character who can ignore armour is... JC! On his special attack :lol:

    Ackbar's third ability has a % of armor penetration
    Magmatrooper's AOE ignores armor as well.

    Oh yeah... thnks! I'll blame www.swgohcantina.com

    @Kylven your website needs updating - synergies section: magmatrooper ignores armour
  • Nonemo
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    Everybody's out planning their cool AOE teams. And here I sit, planning my insidious counter attack teams. :P
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