2 changes that need to happen ASAP...

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1. Raids need to reward those who don't attack. It may work fine for a T6 over a day or two, but we are forced to wait for hours until all 50 people get a swing in for our heroic raids. This punishes those who were ready to go at raid time, but miss out on damage while we wait for Charlie to take his morning shower. FIX IT.

2. Evasion has ruined diversity. Make Ben's leader apply to ONLY Jedi, and Dooku to apply to ONLY sith, and so on. This would be a mild change, but would have an immediate impact. Leader abilities that affect the whole team in this manner are simply too powerful to choose anyone else. FIX IT.

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    I agree with both of these. Unless your guild is small and you can actually contribute there isn't a point to wasting your time with the raids. And I think Phasmas leader ability should only work with FO toons as well. Make synergy important and people will be happy. They actually didn't waste their time making their favorite toons good for them to be awful competitively.
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    Reward those that don't attack?
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    Yes! There should be no blanket leader ability. Period. That's how you end up with these insane meta's with absolutely no synergy. Synergy needs to be the second most looked at issue for next major update, next to potency. Either have synergy bonuses, specific leader abilities, or those with blanket leader abilities, make them minimal.
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    Bc some raids are done in a few mins and wont need all to participate this is a great idea.
    It should be put to get the 50th place rewards so that ppl can't exploit with 20 ppl tied at 20th place or sth.
    More guild currency and credits etc.. Are already better prizes so this wouldnt take anything from more active players really so win-win.
  • pac0naut
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    Kopfschuss wrote: »
    2. Evasion has ruined diversity. Make Ben's leader apply to ONLY Jedi, and Dooku to apply to ONLY sith, and so on. This would be a mild change, but would have an immediate impact. Leader abilities that affect the whole team in this manner are simply too powerful to choose anyone else. FIX IT.

    This is a FANTASTIC idea. I think I mentioned somewhere else that synergy should be the next meta.

    Also, with so many anti Jedi toons out there, they need to introduce a Jedi that's anti Sith.

    I'm on the fence with Phasma and her lead. The Sith and Jedi are relatively easy farms. First Order, not so much per se.
    Meanwhile, down on the farm....
  • pac0naut
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    Wait, isn't there only 4 First Order toons?
    Meanwhile, down on the farm....
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    I hate "nerf this" posts, but this proposal makes sense. But after applying the leadership only on this toon's class: Dooku for Sith, Ben for Jedi; they need to increase % effect. It'll offset obvious nerf
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    DarthBalls wrote: »
    Reward those that don't attack?

    If they contributed coins to start raid. Heroic raids end so quickly.
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    pac0naut wrote: »
    Wait, isn't there only 4 First Order toons?

    Kylo, phasma, fotp, Foo, fost
  • pac0naut
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    Also, as far as the leader abilities go, there should be a buff if you run ALL Jedi or ALL Sith.
    Meanwhile, down on the farm....
  • Dark_Jedi
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    Well I would be happy with Light Side and Dark Side myself, this alone would make it better, so Ben LS and Dooku DS.
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    pac0naut wrote: »
    Kopfschuss wrote: »
    2. Evasion has ruined diversity. Make Ben's leader apply to ONLY Jedi, and Dooku to apply to ONLY sith, and so on. This would be a mild change, but would have an immediate impact. Leader abilities that affect the whole team in this manner are simply too powerful to choose anyone else. FIX IT.

    This is a FANTASTIC idea. I think I mentioned somewhere else that synergy should be the next meta.

    Also, with so many anti Jedi toons out there, they need to introduce a Jedi that's anti Sith.

    I'm on the fence with Phasma and her lead. The Sith and Jedi are relatively easy farms. First Order, not so much per se.

    I've mentioned it many times too... Suggested a synergy bonus multiplier, rather than class specific leader abilities, which I gotta say, is a great idea too!
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    The problem with dooku's leader ability only applying to Sith is that there are only 5 Sith in the game. Two of which aren't really farmable. The Jedi outnumber the Sith on this game 3 to 1. Granted there are some Jedi that aren't farmable either but the Sith are still outnumbered. I wouldn't mind the Count's leader ability to be restricted to Sith only, I would really like to see an increase of Sith characters added to the game. Come on EA...make it happen.
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    DarthBalls wrote: »
    Reward those that don't attack?

    It's unfair to them when the heroic raids get finished in 30 minutes. At least put them on the bottom of the rewards as a courtesy. It's not like their leeching rewards from you.
  • Data
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    Our guild leaders are able to somehow coordinate 50 players through multiple weekly heroic raids. It is a huge nuisance that would be easily solved by allowing everyone in the guild to get their deserved reward. Just let the players without raid attack points tie for 50th place. Simple
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    Have to agree with both. 50th for anyone that doesnt attack due to the time the raid was hit.

    I don't want to use dooku as lead on Arena but quite frankly anyone else and I lose too many positions over night.
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    pac0naut wrote: »
    Wait, isn't there only 4 First Order toons?

    Yeah if it only applies to FO toons it would allow the ability to be more potent than it is now and the devs will make more money from crystal refreshes and packs. It seems like a win win to me.
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    1. +1
    2. -1

    I bet you run a squad that doesn't have synergy. It's a mechanic in the game already but it sucks. They need to boost synergy. If any devs read this, synergy will get you so much money becuase people will by packs to get their toons, or they will buy crystals to refresh their farming for their favorite toons. Either way they would be making more money.
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    I like the first idea because I always feel bad when a raid finishes before all players get a chance to participate. Sometimes raids finish very fast and it's not possible for all 50 members to be available in that 3-4 hour time window.
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    Luminara and Maul already grant evasion to specifically Jedi or Sith. With so few Sith in the game, you really want two with the exact same leader ability?

    People always talk about the gap between FTP and P2P. How many FTP are going to be able to field decked out synergy teams? The only reason most can compete in arena is because they have leader abilities that are universal and cover the squad they were able to pull together and level up.

    It will be the P2P that will be running maxed out clone teams, Ewok teams, etc.
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    Galdin_Wan wrote: »
    Luminara and Maul already grant evasion to specifically Jedi or Sith. With so few Sith in the game, you really want two with the exact same leader ability?

    People always talk about the gap between FTP and P2P. How many FTP are going to be able to field decked out synergy teams? The only reason most can compete in arena is because they have leader abilities that are universal and cover the squad they were able to pull together and level up.

    It will be the P2P that will be running maxed out clone teams, Ewok teams, etc.

    It's surprisingly easy to make synergy team. The first couple of chromium a I opened when I was just starting the game and completely F2P I got Leia, Luke, and some Scout shards to star him up. Han is farmable and so is Askbar. This is one of the most whale-ish synergy teams in the game and I unlocked them all before hitting level 50. Plus once you actually put your time to farm certain toons it is very easy to farm just that toon. I get what you are saying but it isn't that hard to farm specific toons.
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    1. +1
    2. -1

    I bet you run a squad that doesn't have synergy. It's a mechanic in the game already but it sucks. They need to boost synergy. If any devs read this, synergy will get you so much money becuase people will by packs to get their toons, or they will buy crystals to refresh their farming for their favorite toons. Either way they would be making more money.

    Who gives a toss about synergy-send in G10 Rey, match finishes in under a minute!

    Until my QGJ lead Jedi team with Aayla and Eath Koth stuns her and she gets wrecked.
  • Naecabon
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    Why can't Charlie skip the shower and just be on time?
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    #2 would have to be for everyone. Phasma only grants extra attacks to first order, Ackbar only grants extra attacks when a rebel does a non attack move, Bariss only gives health up and health at the start of turns to Jedi. It would have to be across the board with any leader ability that affects all allies.
  • Yogi
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    One change that is a must...

    OP needs to change his avatar. ::shivers::
  • Olle
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    This original post reminds me of the SNL skit with kenan thompson.

    FIX IT. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

    I agree with both comments
  • Frommer
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    Kopfschuss wrote: »
    DarthBalls wrote: »
    Reward those that don't attack?

    It's unfair to them when the heroic raids get finished in 30 minutes. At least put them on the bottom of the rewards as a courtesy. It's not like their leeching rewards from you.

    @Kopfschuss do a higher tier raid. You be finishing in 30 minutes that's crazy. People who don't do anything don't deserve anything. Stop trying to make this a socialist game.
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