Speed doesn't matter in arena
January 7, 2016 12:00PM
edited February 2016
After days of testing, and consulting with others that I know, I have come to find that first round turn order isn't based off a character's speed stat. For example: Old daka maxed out 7* has 126 speed, which is slower than my qgj, leia, and sidious yet the enemies daka will attack before my 3 faster characters. This is just one example, and yes I have taken into account the leader abilities that are being used to ensure their speeds have not been increased. I'm not really sure what first round turn order is based off of anymore because to me it clearly isn't the speed stat, or atleast the speed of a character isn't working in the way that it is supposed to.
Feel free to comment if you have experienced similar situations or if you think I am completely wrong and have evidence to the contrary. I would love to hear the findings from other people aside from myself and several others.
Edit: Old Post no longer relevant, feel free to keep discussing but my views have changed.
Feel free to comment if you have experienced similar situations or if you think I am completely wrong and have evidence to the contrary. I would love to hear the findings from other people aside from myself and several others.
Edit: Old Post no longer relevant, feel free to keep discussing but my views have changed.
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how stupid it is lol
No, sorry, nothing in this game have proof, just observation. And having played so many matches, that's my observation, speed matters, its just not fixed on round 1.
It seems like its a dice throw who goes first, characters with higher speed ofc having better odds of doing so.
Last month I believe I saw a dev (Jesse or Aaron) reply to something like this. I believe it got sort of confirmed that first round is random (speedwise). Now I haven't used the search option but you can try to search on Speed or Jesse :P
This screenshot clearly shows a team with Jedi with Qui Gon as lead, and then that same team vs the same opponent with Qui Gon switchedo ut for leader.
As you can see, my starting speed bars are IDENTICAL.
Soooo either Qui Gon isn't actually doing anything and his leader skill simply doesn't work, or there is definitely weird stuff happening with the first turn and speed.
Wouldn't surprise me though if there is some random thing that makes the stats useless to start. It is an EA game after all where they ALWAYS have to throw in some lame code instead of just going simply by stats and logic. So frustrating.
Nice to know Poggle goes before Sid. Mwahahhaah
Old Ben and Aayla are both Jedi on the team. Both have identical turn meter positionings regardless of Qui Gon being lead or not. I never said anything about not going first. I said why are Jedi allies at the exact same speed positioning with or without Qui Gon's leader ability?
You don't need to "know" a game to play it anymore, just go with it, and pay for it, and in the end if you are unhappy, well your problem! Really love the new gaming mentality!
I just battled a squad where all 5 of their heroes got to attack before any of mine. Sid, Chewy, Consular, IG 86 and Ahsoka is my team. My squad power was higher and its not like my heroes are slow. Yet, by the time I got to attack once, IG 86 was dead, and everyone else was at half health with several healing immunity debuffs on them. The opposing team didn't have any speed buffs either. So **** happened? Needless to say I retreated instead of wasting my time.
In GW, I've seen a lvl 50 Sid in lvl 6 gear attack first, before my maxed out Sid. How does this make sense?
Some part of it HAS to be random, and I ****ing hate it!
My Sid and poggle are the same speed. It is random who goes first.... Unfortunately. Both 6*. at 136 speed. Did not upgrade Sid on purpose. I wish i could remove gear...
dj
Ladies and gentleman, EA!
They're not active until a char is.
Speed very much matters.
Expect it to be replied in a couple of months lol. This is devastating news to me as well. Just bought my first 5 Ackbar shards and now im hearing this nonsense. Haiz why not I just stick to the bloody meta and get Sid.
I actually beg to differ... Dooku is one of the fastest characters in the game.. And whenever i have faced him or used him.. He always takes the first turn.. So it actually goes like the fastest gets the first turn... Also Sid has a decent speed.. And ive seen him goin first in a team if the other toons in the team are slower than him..
What is the roll? Its definetely:
Speed stat + roll of 1 dice, maybe a 6 face die or a 10 face die. Highest sum, goes first. No idea how a tie is resolved. (obviously since its software, it can be a 7,5 face die, or a variant dice taking composition into account. I bet its just a simple RNG roll of a small number though instead of an Inversive congruential effect.)
The extra die roll cant be very high because we all see Dooku always getting first turn, and his Speed stat difference compared to the rest of the heros isnt more than 10-15.
So ye, its a roll of a small die that gives the RNG, but the Speed stat is the most important factor. If for example, you bring lower level characters in a fight of 60s, they will never go first because their speed stat is low