Really... Both arena's are boring, annoying and all that stuff. People with 1 million GP less are jumping on top places. Why do I grind every day, when CG doesn't change anything for moths? Only thing you need is one zeta and with bad mods Han solo. If this is the way the game goes...
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Not sure how long you have been playing, but a lot has changed. Even this current meta has several teams that are hanging out in the top spots. There have been times where the top 50 were all the same team, now that is boring.
Yes, people with the right team can win, that's the whole point. You dont need to always be 100% ahead of everyone in arena. It's only about 5 toons.
I will jump on the current bandwagon and say ' just wait for treya'.... apparently she is going to change things...
If people with lower GP are contesting top spots, doesn't that mean there is more competition?
My suggestion is to ask for guidance. "here's my scenario, how can I maximize my rank at payout?" is an example of a way to improve your arena game. Also, almost no team holds on defense. You'll always need to make that climb.
Yes, ships arena is boring. Everyone agrees and devs are making changes.
The sad part about ships, once this change happens; I feel like they'll be right back where we are currently. People will figure out best starters and reinforcements and that will be ran into the ground as it currently is
What he's saying is that raid han is the reason why anyone can beat everyone on offence, regardless of how old your leaderboard is, or how good the team and mods are.
He's absolutely right about that. There are no nerf theads on the forum wich means that even "noobs" can beat everthing available ingame currently.
*Runs off to go start a nerf leef thread*
But seriously that's what we get when you have a diverse meta.
To the OP, yes it is a good thing IMO.
If someone invested in or built the "right team" they can no be competitive. Periods like this are necessary and enjoyable (at least for me), this helps "close the gap" and let's people breath a bit while building more toons and teams for the bazillion other game modes we all "need" toons for.
Fair point, but you still need some semblance of a team around him. So what OP is really saying is that arena is overly competitive and investment (time or money) and thoughtful team comps are not being rewarded properly.
I've seen a couple of "nerf KRU" threads floating around, but I've already conceded to your point.
i just took a quick glanse at your roster, you can probably easily field 4 different teams with minimal overlap and still be able to beat 90% of the teams in your top20. Point being, we don't have to build the "right team" or have superior mods anymore, "normal play" will result in having a top20 capable team anyway.
pretty much, yes. I feel like what he's trying to say is lost in translation somehow, not sure.
There's loads of competition, but there's no way to actually compete (being/doing better than your peers), if that makes sence. Well, no way that isn't just being online at the right time and attacking more often if need be. No "real" competition.
This was always true to a certain extent though.
You dont think superior mods help?
By "right team" I mean lower GP players like the OP was saying 1M lower than him. People who made the right focus and made 1 good team, because they may not have the diversity in their roster made the "right team" and can now climb the ranks.
While I understand your statement, you dont know my top 20. I have 2 teams fully arena modded for this reason, there are mirror matches I cant win reliably. Maybe I could put together another JTR team but I dont really have the mods for that. Mods are a huge part of arena. The team is only 70% of it. IMHO
I'm not sure what you consider "normal play" but I dont think normal play will get you to the top 20 in arena. There were many people who didn't get JTR last time around because of "normal play" that is one of the solid arena teams right now. I think our definitions of normal play may be different.
Also in a diverse meta people get to the top by cherry picking the teams they can beat, that doesn't make them a top ranked player, because as the meta shifts they will tend to fall back again and not be able to keep pace. The breath of arena opens and closes, we have been feeling it for a little while now.
It seems you are experiencing competion, doesn't it?
That's great! It makes me more confused about your initial issue though.
Your point was quite clear. In your subject line, you insinuated, that there is no competition in arenas, and that it's a problem. You then went on to describe an arena scenario, which indicates, that there IS competition, and that it is also problem. I don't believe the issue is language. The issue seems to be, that you cannot decide wether you prefer competion or not. You seem pretty undecided.
It's against my better judgement to respond to this because I can tell by your "let's compare GP" comment that you are not open to new ideas, but here goes.
whether or not you have 4500 wins compared to someone with 1000 is irrelevant. Arena is based on 5 toons against 5 toons. If someone has developed a team comp that is now arena viable, then yes you're going to see them challenge for the top spots regardless of how many previous wins they have.
No, you don't need all the zetas you could equip because some of these aren't necessary in your arena composition. BB8 self preservation protocol is a perfect example. Not needed on an arena viable team.
No, you don't need to be max gear when your team is a direct counter to the team you are facing. That's the point. Nightsisters are a perfect example of this. NS does extremely well against JTR teams and extremely poorly against any team with an AOE.
I can go on, but basically your point is that both arenas are highly competitive because certain toons are overpowered and that is bad for the game because you are somehow entitled to the top spot because your gameplay has been better over the long run and less sophisticated players should never be able to catch up. Got it
Your point was quite clear. In your subject line, you insinuated, that there is no competition in arenas, and that it's a problem. You then went on to describe an arena scenario, which indicates, that there IS competition, and that it is also problem. I don't believe the issue is language. The issue seems to be, that you cannot decide wether you prefer competion or not. You seem pretty undecided.
Squad arena is fought with teams of 5 selected characters. It's not a battle between 2 complete rosters. If people with a million less GP than you can beat your team in the arena, then it's exactly this — competition.
Ofcourse superior mods help, but inferior mods get the job done.
"normal play" obviously doesn't get you top20 since there are only so many players that can actually take top20 per leaderboard. It does however give you a team capable of beating alot of the teams that usually rank top20.