Just a thought but maybe bastilla lead jedi will be the new phoenix team in that it will help you with two legendary events (yoda and presumably revan) the big protection buff each encounter will help newer players sustain their way through galactic war.
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Scuba is correct, Bastila Shan’s Ability “Initiative” Zeta is not granting bonus Tenacity to Jedi Allies with Undispellable Protection Up. We are working on getting a hotfix out today to get this fixed but subject to change as usual.
Just a thought whatever about arena id say her lead will be insane in tw.
Her leadership bonus is kind of a head start at the start of a fight. It kind of fizzles our later on. But imagine her leadership head start on a team that already has tm loaded. You will be murdered.
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Scuba is correct, Bastila Shan’s Ability “Initiative” Zeta is not granting bonus Tenacity to Jedi Allies with Undispellable Protection Up. We are working on getting a hotfix out today to get this fixed but subject to change as usual.
So, I’m confused. Does the bonus potency for Jedi allies only apply to that one move? And does the 50% potency (or 100%?) from her unique not apply to her? I’m seeing it explained both ways and I can’t figure it out. If it does apply, then she actually should have major potency, when upgraded, if you put decent mods on her. And if it does, and it’s 100% she should always stun. It’s too confusing a kit.
I’ve been playing the levels and it seems she doesn’t get the battle buff. That’s not cool.
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Scuba is correct, Bastila Shan’s Ability “Initiative” Zeta is not granting bonus Tenacity to Jedi Allies with Undispellable Protection Up. We are working on getting a hotfix out today to get this fixed but subject to change as usual.
@scuba now I'm confused about this Prot up damage bonus. Her lead reads:
While Jedi allies have Prot up, they gain 150% tenacity and deal 35% more damage. Where is it indicating that undispellable prot up does not count for this, or, how did you ascertain that? Or, am I confused even further and what you are trying to say is that if it was working WAI, then her Prot buff SHOULD be granting the bonuses (but currently, isn't).
Side note for you Scuba, what do you make of her Potency and Unique ability issue. She does not get the Potency bonus correct, only "other allies" do? WAI? I can't remember if she was countering in battles, I am pretty sure she was not getting the legendary battle meditation buff though, and her stun only landed maybe 35% of the time for me
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Scuba is correct, Bastila Shan’s Ability “Initiative” Zeta is not granting bonus Tenacity to Jedi Allies with Undispellable Protection Up. We are working on getting a hotfix out today to get this fixed but subject to change as usual.
@scuba now I'm confused about this Prot up damage bonus. Her lead reads:
While Jedi allies have Prot up, they gain 150% tenacity and deal 35% more damage. Where is it indicating that undispellable prot up does not count for this, or, how did you ascertain that? Or, am I confused even further and what you are trying to say is that if it was working WAI, then her Prot buff SHOULD be granting the bonuses (but currently, isn't).
Side note for you Scuba, what do you make of her Potency and Unique ability issue. She does not get the Potency bonus correct, only "other allies" do? WAI? I can't remember if she was countering in battles, I am pretty sure she was not getting the legendary battle meditation buff though, and her stun only landed maybe 35% of the time for me
Cheers
@jayjonbeach
Based on testing and the mechanics shown on swgoh.gg the undispelable protection up is not counting for the bonus and it should. What they are hopefully fixing is making it count for the undispelable protection up or that part of her lead is useless.
here is some screen shots showing the damage difference. I waited to capture until ezra had max stacks of his offense unique
Ezra with dispelable protection up from Fulcrum:
Ezra with the undispelable protection up from Bastila lead:
Here is ezra with what should be 257% tenacity which means opponent would have to have 158% potency to land a debuff. Has potency up which is +50% so would need 108% and very lucky rng to get chance to resist to 99%
as for her unique:
"other allies gain 3% Turn Meter (doubled for Jedi) and Legendary Battle Meditation for 1 turn."
"Other allies" or "all other allies" has alway exluded the one that gives the bonus "all allies" included the one giving the bonus
@scuba Thanks a lot very helpful. That might explain why I found damage weird at times too then, my GMY was giving prot up that counted but hers must not have been. Sometimes she herself was doing good damage and others times it was really low, of course opponents and defense up played into that too.
I don't have Hoda and won't for a long time (same for GK for me sadly), so I want her for my Jedi team for raids, the stun doesn't matter for raids but it would be nice to have for other areas like TB, TW etc for sure. I guess GMY won't be able to share that Battle Meditation back to her either I'm thinking
ps - A shame Fulcrum is not a Jedi, but still I think she would be an amazing addition to a team with GMY and Bastila on it for sure, especially for Raids or Arena, Whirlwind should be hitting for ~40K, 60 on a non-modded crit and much higher if modded, that is crazy dmg!!!
- I was going to equip her with the G10 Mk 6 CEC Fusion Furnace that gives +50 Tacticts.
- I decided to have a look at her stats first to try and guess how much it would increase her Resistance
- Its value was 22.49% and I estimated it'd go up to about 25%
- I equipped the Furnace and was surprised to see her Resistance was still 22.49%
So either I'm either missing something or there might be a bug.
- I was going to equip her with the G10 Mk 6 CEC Fusion Furnace that gives +50 Tacticts.
- I decided to have a look at her stats first to try and guess how much it would increase her Resistance
- Its value was 22.49% and I estimated it'd go up to about 25%
- I equipped the Furnace and was surprised to see her Resistance was still 22.49%
So either I'm either missing something or there might be a bug.
@ddlooping2
I just equipped the same gear piece (4*) and resistance went from 17.79% to 18.32%
For the people complaining about her base potency, please Google "Potency Mods."
LOL - good luck going up from 7% with pot mods to something meaningful. Even if you put all 3 sets on her AND had it on the cross it would be barely usable against anything higher level, and then you have also now wasted the opportunity to better things in those spots. A shame really
I have a theorycraft team under a Bastila lead :
Bastila (L) - Ezra - Yoda - Hoda - OldBen
All of the jedi are going first due to Bastila lead, she calls Yoda to assist granting him with a ton of buff with Rally.
Yoda gives all these buffs to the team with Battle meditation.
Hoda calls Yoda to assist with Master's training.
Ezra calls Yoda to assist ans double tap.
Yoda should has another turn due to his speed and TM gain at every hit of his basic. You use Unstoppable force for maximum damages.
Old Ben uses Mind tricks with potency up from the buffs he gains so your whole team has another free turn, full of buffs.
I think it's the way Bastila is supposed to work, giving us an extra first turn against meta teams which go hard on the first turn :
Palp meta with Vader's force crush + Palp stun and Sion debuff
JTR with BB8 really fast turn and the stealth from R2
NS with the plague from MT
So she could be really good under a good TM manipulation team coupling with ton of buffs. So 7% of potency should not be an issue.
I totally agree with ultra. CG really dropped the ball with her battle meditation. I was hoping she could level the playing field against the sith (who have like 50 built in advantages over jedi). In KOTOR her battle meditation was described as increasing the moral and endurance of the jedi while literally debuffing the sith. I mean that's a layup it could have directly translated to this game, potency and counter chance??? She should have an ability like palpatines that targets the sith faction and debuffs them. It just feels like cg is intent on making the jedi weaker. I mean my god look at the abilities of the clone war jedi's its ridiculous compared to other factions
@Scuba yea not to mention her stun is unusable with her 7% potency. I couldn't believe I was unable to land a stun on the weakest enemies during the event
For the people complaining about her base potency, please Google "Potency Mods."
LOL - good luck going up from 7% with pot mods to something meaningful. Even if you put all 3 sets on her AND had it on the cross it would be barely usable against anything higher level, and then you have also now wasted the opportunity to better things in those spots. A shame really
Maybe you should pair her up with Fisto if you are having Potency issues. I put a Pot cross and a Pot set on her and had no real trouble landing stuns. Mine is at 47.55% Pot and could go higher with another Pot set or two.
I have a theorycraft team under a Bastila lead :
Bastila (L) - Ezra - Yoda - Hoda - old Ben
This is the team I've been using with great success! With the zeta on bastila lead I am able to beat traya lead triumvirate god teams.. with nest/trooper/thrawn side peices.. all 110+ speed (302 speed nest?!)
These are teams my previous team with Gmy lead and JKA didn't stand a chance against and I would avoid (mostly would climb thro JTR's and Palp leads)
I'm sure on defense These Traya god teams could still auto me down with the new bastila lead, but I'm just happy the jedi have a cool team that can finally handle itself in the meta on offense.
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7% makes it useless for most of a basic fight. Perhaps sith raid is where it shines
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Bastila-protection-up-from-leader-ability-doesn-t-give-jedi/m-p/6917441#M15606
Basically her lead is only set up to give bonus damage and tenacity when jedi allies have the dispel-able protection up buff (like provided from Fulcrum basic) not the un-dispel-able one provided by bastila lead.
Updated the known issues here
Her leadership bonus is kind of a head start at the start of a fight. It kind of fizzles our later on. But imagine her leadership head start on a team that already has tm loaded. You will be murdered.
@CG_SBCrumb it is not just bonus tenacity it is also not granting the bonus damage. Granted the fix for one should fix the other but well yeah.
I’ve been playing the levels and it seems she doesn’t get the battle buff. That’s not cool.
While Jedi allies have Prot up, they gain 150% tenacity and deal 35% more damage. Where is it indicating that undispellable prot up does not count for this, or, how did you ascertain that? Or, am I confused even further and what you are trying to say is that if it was working WAI, then her Prot buff SHOULD be granting the bonuses (but currently, isn't).
Side note for you Scuba, what do you make of her Potency and Unique ability issue. She does not get the Potency bonus correct, only "other allies" do? WAI? I can't remember if she was countering in battles, I am pretty sure she was not getting the legendary battle meditation buff though, and her stun only landed maybe 35% of the time for me
Cheers
@CG_SBCrumb it is not just bonus tenacity it is also not granting the bonus damage. Granted the fix for one should fix the other but well yeah. @jayjonbeach
Based on testing and the mechanics shown on swgoh.gg the undispelable protection up is not counting for the bonus and it should. What they are hopefully fixing is making it count for the undispelable protection up or that part of her lead is useless.
here is some screen shots showing the damage difference. I waited to capture until ezra had max stacks of his offense unique
Ezra with dispelable protection up from Fulcrum:
Ezra with the undispelable protection up from Bastila lead:
Here is ezra with what should be 257% tenacity which means opponent would have to have 158% potency to land a debuff. Has potency up which is +50% so would need 108% and very lucky rng to get chance to resist to 99%
as for her unique:
"other allies gain 3% Turn Meter (doubled for Jedi) and Legendary Battle Meditation for 1 turn."
"Other allies" or "all other allies" has alway exluded the one that gives the bonus "all allies" included the one giving the bonus
From really old Q&A:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/15965/q-amp-a-2-24-2016
I don't have Hoda and won't for a long time (same for GK for me sadly), so I want her for my Jedi team for raids, the stun doesn't matter for raids but it would be nice to have for other areas like TB, TW etc for sure. I guess GMY won't be able to share that Battle Meditation back to her either I'm thinking
No. I will play around with it later though.
- I was going to equip her with the G10 Mk 6 CEC Fusion Furnace that gives +50 Tacticts.
- I decided to have a look at her stats first to try and guess how much it would increase her Resistance
- Its value was 22.49% and I estimated it'd go up to about 25%
- I equipped the Furnace and was surprised to see her Resistance was still 22.49%
So either I'm either missing something or there might be a bug.
I just equipped the same gear piece (4*) and resistance went from 17.79% to 18.32%
All scores were recorded without offense down on Kanan or using Bastila's assist special and Sith Trooper had Defense Up on all hits by Kanan
Kanan (damage values with 200% protection up) - (All attacks were critical hits)
1650 1708 1694 1733 1585 1710
Kanan's Damage Output after losing the protection up - (All attacks were critical hits)
1196 1285
you multiply the damage with 1.35 and its matching up with the variance I was getting with protection up buff
EDIT: Didn't keep track of the tenacity up working as it should
LOL - good luck going up from 7% with pot mods to something meaningful. Even if you put all 3 sets on her AND had it on the cross it would be barely usable against anything higher level, and then you have also now wasted the opportunity to better things in those spots. A shame really
Bastila (L) - Ezra - Yoda - Hoda - OldBen
All of the jedi are going first due to Bastila lead, she calls Yoda to assist granting him with a ton of buff with Rally.
Yoda gives all these buffs to the team with Battle meditation.
Hoda calls Yoda to assist with Master's training.
Ezra calls Yoda to assist ans double tap.
Yoda should has another turn due to his speed and TM gain at every hit of his basic. You use Unstoppable force for maximum damages.
Old Ben uses Mind tricks with potency up from the buffs he gains so your whole team has another free turn, full of buffs.
I think it's the way Bastila is supposed to work, giving us an extra first turn against meta teams which go hard on the first turn :
Palp meta with Vader's force crush + Palp stun and Sion debuff
JTR with BB8 really fast turn and the stealth from R2
NS with the plague from MT
So she could be really good under a good TM manipulation team coupling with ton of buffs. So 7% of potency should not be an issue.
and for those complainig about her Potency look at her passive ability
she adds +50% potency
u use the stun after she gets the meditation bonus
she works great with Old Ben and under GMY they will make Palp lead obsolete, making Traya the only viable lead in defending vs the Jedi team
palp cant speed up the sith if they cant land the debuffs and the tenacity itself cant be dispelled by Sion
Maybe you should pair her up with Fisto if you are having Potency issues. I put a Pot cross and a Pot set on her and had no real trouble landing stuns. Mine is at 47.55% Pot and could go higher with another Pot set or two.
This is the team I've been using with great success! With the zeta on bastila lead I am able to beat traya lead triumvirate god teams.. with nest/trooper/thrawn side peices.. all 110+ speed (302 speed nest?!)
These are teams my previous team with Gmy lead and JKA didn't stand a chance against and I would avoid (mostly would climb thro JTR's and Palp leads)
I'm sure on defense These Traya god teams could still auto me down with the new bastila lead, but I'm just happy the jedi have a cool team that can finally handle itself in the meta on offense.
A lot of debuffs seem to still stick.