I've seen the videos on it and seen that the devs are investigating. I don't understand what the big deal is. This entire counter is based on the contingent that SLKR is in the leader slot. His leadership ability isn't even that good. If Hux is in the leadership, the undersized GAS counter no longer works. Hux lead blocks enemy counterattacks and his special blocks bonus TM. GAS is just a sitting duck then once he can't counter attack or gain bonus TM. SLKR can just stun lock him since SKLR is much faster and GAS can't gain bonus TM. So, I really don't get why people are concerned about this, just put Hux in the leadership spot....
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And what would you consider "right"? Being unbeatable except by mirror or Rey?
I'll preface this by saying - I don't have either GL, but I do have GAS.
A full relic, maxed out GL with a team behind him should not lose to a 2man squad. The barrier to entry for these GLs is so high and enduring that they shouldn't be just trampled by a short man team from the previous meta.
As it stands, a full 501st GAS squad still beats regular SLKR squads with some success. We shouldn't be able to do it easier with a 2man squad. I would be incredibly peeved if dozen characters that I reliced leading to the new all-powerful unit was shortmanned by the prior meta. I have no problem with a full GAS squad taking on GLs, but a 2-man squad shouldn't stand a hope.
I'm pretty sure they're taking about gear investment here, not cash investment.
Look at the gear investment needed to complete GAS event. It's not low.
Compared to the team it is beating, yes it is. And no one should be surprised at this, this is always how it is. People pay for the meta for a reason, and it's not so they can be dropped by a cheese team.
As TVF has stated above...I'm not discounting the investment needed for GAS - I have a full R7 501st squad, I know the investment - but compare that to taking 13 characters to relics, and then the FURTHER ridiculous gear and zeta investment and energy investment (tickets) required for GLs, its not even close.
You can beat a full r7 FO SLKR squads with a r7 GAS + g1 501st Clone Troooper
Gear investment to complete the event is ten toons at 17.7k power compared to GL Kylo that ranges from 25k average power minimum for entry, you also need r7 Kylo on top of this for the ultimate
There are many others and they are OK:
IG88,GG vs DRevvan
Q Nest (HYoda) vs Padme
So, is this more about protecting your Arena Payouts from snipers not obedient to shard chat?
Editing in some math:
500gems × 30 per month is 15,000 is saving you from spending $140 CAD per month. That's 24 times per day.
Even 3rd gets 12,000 per month.
I could understand why loosing that is so big!
You'd need to spend about $1,700 per year to recover that gem advantage.
Well yeah, for people that invested time and/or money to obtain the newest exclusive toons, they generally expect a good ROI. And you better believe CG understands that.
I thought not.
CG against showing their inconsistency in applying their "rules". Its something that can be countered pretty easily with the composition of the team, thats just like preparing for any GA match and looking out for leaving teams that can be beaten with the known counters.
It's still arguably more than a full team without an epic character, so why is it an issue that the team isn't full? Heck, it's more resource-intensive than the GG counter to DR, and that one was kept in place.
Besides, if you look at it strictly from resource standpoint, the GLs shouldn't be countered by anything. Is this really what you want? Because any non-GL team will require a fraction of the investment needed for GLs.
Again, this is not what people invest in the meta for.
People make bad investments all the time.
May I ask, do you have supreme leader Kylo Ren?
Do you have GAS team?
My guess is no to the former and yes to the latter.
Seems like you are basing if something is good or not depending if you have said characters.
This right here. Take it a step further:
R7 DR and malak losing to JKR and Jolee
JKR losing to Traya and sion
Traya sith losing to JTR and Finn
In any of those situations people would have complained quite loudly
I don't think Hux is the best lead for FO in all game plays. There are advantages with each. And disadvantages.
The heart of the matter is, this interaction shouldn't be taking place. As unbias as I can look at it.
Irrelevant. CG wants people to invest.
Source?
I kid. Of course CG wants people to pay money into their game. But CG makes poor decisions/products too, just like everyone... they're people. They want you to invest, but sometimes the quality of the product they produce isn't up to the cost. So if the collective 'you' have made a poor investment, that's on you. Maybe CG decides to bow to complaints of high spenders/hoarders, maybe they don't.
It has nothing to do with shard chat
You paid premium for a toon that takes first place during your payout and then sits at #64 overnight because everyone in the top 100 has GAS and can knock you down and then quickly switch to a full 501st squad
Also in arena you can sub in Malak so it’s not a big issue
The other issue is Grand Arena Championship where you can get 59 banners using 2 toons and still have an incredibly strong Shaak Ti + Clones team
Players going against SLKR teams aren’t having any problems taking him down since they can use one team into two teams
You can get 19 banners in TW - both places where it’s better to keep SLKR with full FO for many reasons
R7 Nest released summer 2018 on a Fleet Hard Node can nearly solo [+/- Q(L) Farmboy(L) or Hermit] an R7 full Padme team released 2019.
This is the way...