The only thing that sucks is when you are in a 4v3 and everyone evades for the nextrains turn, gain offense up, and take me down low enough to where dooku can counter once and kill me. This has happened several times to me lol
Disagree. Dodge once and get offense up. Then they dont want to touch you. Lol i remember times when i faced dooku and didnt have dooku and used to think, "why dont they allow me to pass my turn?" Lol
He is hurting Fives, Kit, Aayla, and Kylo as well.
Well, if you evade it means the opponent wasted an attack (possibly a cooldown ability) and you still have the hp to receive the next attack and counter, so what you are saying isnt exactly true. You could think about like evading is almost the same as if the opponent had been stunned for 1 turn. And that is besides the offense up.
The only reason he is effective is AI has no clue how to defend ... So using a passive ability is a smart strategy. His retaliation is less important. If there were multiple toons that could effectively defend, then Dooku would be phased out, but not yet.
This is a trolling thread.... Everyone will continue using the countess until he is nerfed. There are multiple posts elsewhere with data showing his dodge is well over 15%, and when applied to an entire team it's very difficult to handle. @Timitock where is it documented that "evasion does not trigger counters"?
This is a trolling thread.... Everyone will continue using the countess until he is nerfed. There are multiple posts elsewhere with data showing his dodge is well over 15%, and when applied to an entire team it's very difficult to handle. @Timitock where is it documented that "evasion does not trigger counters"?
His dodge is over 15%. It adds an additional 15% to the already existing dodge rating.
My name is cosmicturtle333, aka CT-333, aka Threes.
Umm... It doesnt have to be documented.
Evade 20 times, then let me know how many of those Countered.
I am not trolling. Dooku worked in a speed meta, he will fade in this meta.
He is hurting Fives, Kit, Aayla, and Kylo as well.
Dooku isn't good because of his counters, Dooku is good because of his stuns and his leader ability. A Dooku led team should consist of glass cannons who hit reeeeally hard on offense up and who could actually use the dodge. Running a Dooku lead with Fives, Kit, Aaylo and Kylo is a horrible idea.
I'd argue that it's genius strategy, especially for counter teams. If you attack them and miss they get a buff. If you attack them and hit, they hit you back. Best of both worlds.
The damage you lose in counter attacks from Dooku is gained in stronger attacks from any of the five squad members.
I think his use will diminish.
There are more reliable ways to get Offense Up.
There are other Evasion Leaders.
He will always remain useful.
People use him because he is a good Jedi hoser.
I think his use will increase
Dodge adds uncertainty to the time needed to finish an opponent, and gives an added chance that a player can lose if the odds are against the player. Other leaders never felt threatening, I don't lose against other leaders...
There are other evasion leaders but some are faction specific. With dooku you can mix and match anyone you want.
Evasion has become more important as players are able to survive more hits, WIth more hits, the numbder of dodges increase.
He will always remain useful unless his leadership ability is tweaked
Lastly, did you even see the dooku megathread? Stop creating a new thread when there is another one specifically for dooku
There are easier ways of getting offense up than hoping a toon will dodge. QGJ can O-up the entire team when debuffing. So can Poggle with his special.
The reason so many people use him (myself included) is because his evade bonus seems to be way out of whack compared to other evasion leaders, particularly when the AI is running the team. Does this mean I miss out on a counter or two when he is attacked. Yes, but it also means other toons without a counter take less damage over the round.
Plus his 15% evade applies to the entire team equally. The only other leader who can claim that is Old Ben, who until recently was either a pain or impossible to farm, and whose evade leadership is currently busted.
TL;DR: HP saved on my team from evasion > HP lost on opposing team from counter.
I think dooku leads will decrease. Evasion was important when fights were fast and furious. One evade before update was huge. But now that the fights are longer evades aren't as important. Before update i lost about 20% of fights vs dooku leads because of rng. Now i never lose vs dooku leads. People will catch on.
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The damage you lose in counter attacks from Dooku is gained in stronger attacks from any of the five squad members.
I think his use will diminish.
There are more reliable ways to get Offense Up.
There are other Evasion Leaders.
He will always remain useful.
People use him because he is a good Jedi hoser.
Well, if you evade it means the opponent wasted an attack (possibly a cooldown ability) and you still have the hp to receive the next attack and counter, so what you are saying isnt exactly true. You could think about like evading is almost the same as if the opponent had been stunned for 1 turn. And that is besides the offense up.
@Timitock where is it documented that "evasion does not trigger counters"?
His dodge is over 15%. It adds an additional 15% to the already existing dodge rating.
Evade 20 times, then let me know how many of those Countered.
I am not trolling. Dooku worked in a speed meta, he will fade in this meta.
Dooku isn't good because of his counters, Dooku is good because of his stuns and his leader ability. A Dooku led team should consist of glass cannons who hit reeeeally hard on offense up and who could actually use the dodge. Running a Dooku lead with Fives, Kit, Aaylo and Kylo is a horrible idea.
Yes. Bug fixes around here masquerade as new metas...
Took me a second...
I think his use will increase
Dodge adds uncertainty to the time needed to finish an opponent, and gives an added chance that a player can lose if the odds are against the player. Other leaders never felt threatening, I don't lose against other leaders...
There are other evasion leaders but some are faction specific. With dooku you can mix and match anyone you want.
Evasion has become more important as players are able to survive more hits, WIth more hits, the numbder of dodges increase.
He will always remain useful unless his leadership ability is tweaked
Lastly, did you even see the dooku megathread? Stop creating a new thread when there is another one specifically for dooku
The reason so many people use him (myself included) is because his evade bonus seems to be way out of whack compared to other evasion leaders, particularly when the AI is running the team. Does this mean I miss out on a counter or two when he is attacked. Yes, but it also means other toons without a counter take less damage over the round.
Plus his 15% evade applies to the entire team equally. The only other leader who can claim that is Old Ben, who until recently was either a pain or impossible to farm, and whose evade leadership is currently busted.
TL;DR: HP saved on my team from evasion > HP lost on opposing team from counter.
Because a bunch of bro's like you all goin ham for an easy win.
Dookus role is to punish Aoe. When a character makes an aoe attack and the Dooku team has offense up,exactly this happens...
There are better ways to get Offense Up.
There are better Evasion leaders.
People assume Dooku is broken and want to exploit the bug.
Evasion is good.
Evasion with counters is sub-optimal.