there's a lot of toons i don't mind the way they were before their rework. and no i don't think it's necessary for every character to be arena viable. but then again i also think the definition of viable for any part of this game is open to opinion and debate as well.
Well viable does mean different things. Stormtrooper believe or not is viable in P3 of HAAT when he hits Gear X, even better at Gear XI. In that same regard Mace Windu is viable in P1 of HAAT. So neither needs a rework in terms of viability. One of reasons asking for a Stormtrooper rework is no different than a Mace Windu rework.
sure, you can say stormtrooper CAN be USED in p3 of haat, but is by no means the best person to use there. So, he is definitely still not viable. He and mace, although they can be used in their respective phases, are by no means the best people to use there in those phases. So, nope, not viable.
I wish they updated him, he's relevant and powerful. Not like a stormtrooper who's relevant but not powerful. Plus the Jedi could use a a few more powerful toons, there are 17 Jedis and how many are usable in arena? Like 5, maybe 6 Ahsoka being a stretch if Ani is in.
Problem with mace is that he only has two utilities--damage and dispel and he doesn't do either particularly well. He's pretty average at best as a damage dealer and as far as dispellers go he ranks at the bottom.
Not a fan of my mace at all. He definitely needs a rework to have anything notable or to be particularly useful for anything. He hits harder than some of the Jedi healers, but not by a lot! He's slow and his kit is vanilla and marginally useful.
I could care less about mace cause I don't like him. That being said, just because someone isn't the best, doesn't mean there not viable. If a toon can be used successfully in any part of the game, there viable.
I remember when I first played and Mace was like the toon I thought was good, until as time went on I saw him get outshined by so many other characters ...
I wish they updated him, he's relevant and powerful. Not like a stormtrooper who's relevant but not powerful. Plus the Jedi could use a a few more powerful toons, there are 17 Jedis and how many are usable in arena? Like 5, maybe 6 Ahsoka being a stretch if Ani is in.
There are 17? Wow.. I would have guessed 7. Ya they need to not suck
I use him in my Jedi team in nAAT along with JKA as lead. With expose and the offense bonus, he can make a lot of damage. He regularly crit. hits for 15-20k without expose damage.
In this configuration, his basic can go until 7.3k without critical damage (mine is lvl 85 gr 10). His dispell and expose are also usefull.
I personally wouldn't mind a rework on his vaapad ability. Something a little more exciting. The rest I can live with
His Vaapad ability is his leader ability for some reason, but his unique Shatterpoint is still level 7. One powerful Zeta could turn his whole kit around, so a rework is hardly necessary. Same goes for Stormtrooper. Both are missing Zetas on their uniques, which opens up a lot of possibilities without having to rework the whole character.
I personally wouldn't mind a rework on his vaapad ability. Something a little more exciting. The rest I can live with
His Vaapad ability is his leader ability for some reason, but his unique Shatterpoint is still level 7. One powerful Zeta could turn his whole kit around, so a rework is hardly necessary. Same goes for Stormtrooper. Both are missing Zetas on their uniques, which opens up a lot of possibilities without having to rework the whole character.
I don't think it's a good solution to fix an underpowered character by giving them a zeta. For the 90+% of people who are never going to zeta them it's no solution at all.
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sure, you can say stormtrooper CAN be USED in p3 of haat, but is by no means the best person to use there. So, he is definitely still not viable. He and mace, although they can be used in their respective phases, are by no means the best people to use there in those phases. So, nope, not viable.
i'm assuming it's suppose to read i hate raid gear and directed at me because i said i don't do rebels.
you don't need rebels to get raid gear.
I hare it too
you're wrong, mace's damage multiplayer is higher so he does more.
cherie 2601
mace 1863
2601*117.8% = 3063
1863*202.1% = 3765
last time i checked 3765>3063
note: the figures use do not include damage variance. (500)
There are 17? Wow.. I would have guessed 7. Ya they need to not suck
In this configuration, his basic can go until 7.3k without critical damage (mine is lvl 85 gr 10). His dispell and expose are also usefull.
His Vaapad ability is his leader ability for some reason, but his unique Shatterpoint is still level 7. One powerful Zeta could turn his whole kit around, so a rework is hardly necessary. Same goes for Stormtrooper. Both are missing Zetas on their uniques, which opens up a lot of possibilities without having to rework the whole character.
I don't think it's a good solution to fix an underpowered character by giving them a zeta. For the 90+% of people who are never going to zeta them it's no solution at all.