You'll be glad to hear that your Phoenix will be useful in the rise together/ stand together event in couple of days time. You can take full advantage of that event tiers, you'll most likely to get their ship called "ghost" and shuttle "phantom 2" as a rewards. Tbh most of us didn't prepare for this. Since you invested so much money into this squad, they are quite uselful if you can get them to 7*, they are really impressive in HAAT phase 2, could be good for Phase 4 as well. Good luck.
So listen, fellas. There is an event coming up, Rise Together/Stand Together, that requires Phoenix squadron. You guys have the squadron all juiced up? You should be able to cruise the event and reap the rewards. What will those rewards be? Maybe something good. Maybe something you can only get if you have Phoenix squadron battle-ready. Maybe something great.
Maybe you should wait to see the return on your investment before you call it a total loss.
Shlubs like me won't even get to do the event since I haven't done anything at all to my Phoenix crew apart from activating them.
So listen, fellas. There is an event coming up, Rise Together/Stand Together, that requires Phoenix squadron. You guys have the squadron all juiced up? You should be able to cruise the event and reap the rewards. What will those rewards be? Maybe something good. Maybe something you can only get if you have Phoenix squadron battle-ready. Maybe something great.
Maybe you should wait to see the return on your investment before you call it a total loss.
Shlubs like me won't even get to do the event since I haven't done anything at all to my Phoenix crew apart from activating them.
Well, we know it's going to be the ships, because they told us as much 5 weeks ago. Whether the ships will be any good is yet to be seen, of course.
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
As said, I have invested heavily into Phoenix, all G11 7* high speed mods. I tried at least 30 test-battles (or more) against my top Zaul team in my arena (top 10).
Outcome: ALL LOST - 100 % - NO CHANCE.
What else do I need for a proof?
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
just because someone decided to put so much time, effort, and/or money into something doesn't mean it should get a buff.
if that's the case then i want buffs on all my toons except my top 5 because i spent time and effort building them up and they aren't strong enough.
or they'd be in my top 5....lol
not every new toon released is suppose to automatically be more powerful than any other toons we already have. i know this game doesn't follow what actually IS in the sw universe power wise but still, you can't expect a bunch of rebels to defeat the sith.
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
As said, I have invested heavily into Phoenix, all G11 7* high speed mods. I tried at least 30 test-battles (or more) against my top Zaul team in my arena (top 10).
Outcome: ALL LOST - 100 % - NO CHANCE.
What else do I need for a proof?
I don't know man, maybe try not fighting THE ONE TEAM YOU CAN'T BEAT?
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
So, it all goes back to why do you think every new set of chars has to be meta destroyers that can wtfpwn everyone in existence?
The Phoenix squad is balanced. It can do well in all areas of the game without breaking anything. Not sure why this is bad.
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
So, it all goes back to why do you think every new set of chars has to be meta destroyers that can wtfpwn everyone in existence?
The Phoenix squad is balanced. It can do well in all areas of the game without breaking anything. Not sure why this is bad.
it's not bad. it's just a player upset he sunk so much money into a squad and it's not OP.
every new doesn't have to be some meta destroyer.
wait until they release r2 if they do. people will be complaining r2 can't take on and wipe the floor with the sith.
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
So, it all goes back to why do you think every new set of chars has to be meta destroyers that can wtfpwn everyone in existence?
The Phoenix squad is balanced. It can do well in all areas of the game without breaking anything. Not sure why this is bad.
I think it's a good thing. I was just stating if it wasn't for the zaul arena they would be a viable team.
I don't know man, maybe try not fighting THE ONE TEAM YOU CAN'T BEAT?
The "one" team that rules 80% of the top 20s in the arena ..
anyway, Phoenix su**** big time in arena (which is for many the most important aspect of the game), but hey its ok, it just draw my personal conclusions out if it.. they wont buff it anyway
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
So, it all goes back to why do you think every new set of chars has to be meta destroyers that can wtfpwn everyone in existence?
The Phoenix squad is balanced. It can do well in all areas of the game without breaking anything. Not sure why this is bad.
I think it's a good thing. I was just stating if it wasn't for the zaul arena they would be a viable team.
Arena viability is all relative. But we know that they can finish top 5. That counts as viable, right?
I don't know man, maybe try not fighting THE ONE TEAM YOU CAN'T BEAT?
The "one" team that rules 80% of the top 20s in the arena ..
anyway, Phoenix su**** big time in arena (which is for many the most important aspect of the game), but hey its ok, it just draw my personal conclusions out if it.. they wont buff it anyway
I don't know man, maybe try not fighting THE ONE TEAM YOU CAN'T BEAT?
The "one" team that rules 80% of the top 20s in the arena ..
anyway, Phoenix su**** big time in arena (which is for many the most important aspect of the game), but hey its ok, it just draw my personal conclusions out if it.. they wont buff it anyway
I feel like I have a very different perspective on these things.
The first PayToPlay game I ever played was World of Warcraft. People told me I was crazy for spending $15 per month on a video game.
Now I play a game where the only way to get a meaningful return on money you put in is to spend $1000+. I don't do that, because I don't have that kind of money. I spend about $5 per month, because that's what I can afford, and that's what I think the game is worth.
Notice what I said there: That's what I think the GAME is worth. When I played WoW, I did not spend $15/month on a character or gear, I spent it on the GAME.
This game has a different business model, but the end result is the same: When you buy a character, you're not actually buying a character. You're spending money on the GAME. Whether or not the character is worth it is irrelevant. That's just a reward the devs have decided to give you for being such a great supporter.
Regardless of how much you spend, remember what you're actually buying. The toons don't exist. You're paying for a game. If you don't like the toons you got, don't use them, and remember that your contribution makes this game possible.
Notice what I said there: That's what I think the GAME is worth. When I played WoW, I did not spend $15/month on a character or gear, I spent it on the GAME.
your ahead of me at thinking $5.
i haven't spent a cent of my own money. i've received like half a dozen itunes gift cards i've used when i get them for b day or christmas but i will never spend a penny of my own money.
everything is free in this game and it only takes patience.
You'll be glad to hear that your Phoenix will be useful in the rise together/ stand together event in couple of days time. You can take full advantage of that event tiers, you'll most likely to get their ship called "ghost" and shuttle "phantom 2" as a rewards. Tbh most of us didn't prepare for this. Since you invested so much money into this squad, they are quite uselful if you can get them to 7*, they are really impressive in HAAT phase 2, could be good for Phase 4 as well. Good luck.
So listen, fellas. There is an event coming up, Rise Together/Stand Together, that requires Phoenix squadron. You guys have the squadron all juiced up? You should be able to cruise the event and reap the rewards. What will those rewards be? Maybe something good. Maybe something you can only get if you have Phoenix squadron battle-ready. Maybe something great.
Maybe you should wait to see the return on your investment before you call it a total loss.
Shlubs like me won't even get to do the event since I haven't done anything at all to my Phoenix crew apart from activating them.
I honestly don't see this event requiring a fully decked out team to complete. These sound like a one and done non-repeating event. Those so far have been fairly easy to complete.
Please buff Religion so that you may all find peace. Phoenix Squad members are all rebels. Use them with a rebel squad or stop complaining about how one arena team doesn't dominate them all.
Have all members at 6* max gear 11 and they fall to even tier C teams. Has anyone figured out how and where to use these toons? Pretty frustrating.
Hey Del. This sucks mate... EA gave every expectation that investing in the toons gives you a leg up with each wave they released. I just love red sabres and Sith so I spent my money there, I ignored rebels (including Chaze and co). This could have easily been me if I was a Rebels fan. Your investment should give you parity with the best teams who were also purchased. I hope you can continue to tweak these guys to improve their strength or bring one or two into interesting and strong synergies with other toons (I like the tanky guy with the glow staff and the lass with the dark sabre - I think they could complement other teams well).
They would be a decent arena team if zaul wasnt around. But zaul makes 90% of builds irrelevant. Maybe their ships will be meta at least.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
Have to agree - all the examples in the videos so far are vs. very sub-optimal setups.
You'll be glad to hear that your Phoenix will be useful in the rise together/ stand together event in couple of days time. You can take full advantage of that event tiers, you'll most likely to get their ship called "ghost" and shuttle "phantom 2" as a rewards. Tbh most of us didn't prepare for this. Since you invested so much money into this squad, they are quite uselful if you can get them to 7*, they are really impressive in HAAT phase 2, could be good for Phase 4 as well. Good luck.
I think this is the positive view you look at. Phoenix just didn't look like an arena team - they looked like a raid / PVE team. Some got excited about the uniques shared, but they have almost zero top tier arena skills. I bet their ships will be really strong and help a lot in fleet arena though.
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Maybe you should wait to see the return on your investment before you call it a total loss.
Shlubs like me won't even get to do the event since I haven't done anything at all to my Phoenix crew apart from activating them.
Well, we know it's going to be the ships, because they told us as much 5 weeks ago. Whether the ships will be any good is yet to be seen, of course.
Except on page 1 of this thread we have proof that they can beat a Zaul team.
And here you have the proof that you cant beat Zaul - not in the top tiers, well modded. I tried lets say at least 30 battles, all lost.
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/103382/video-arena-phonix-full-squad-vs-sith
Video 1:
Video 2:
Beating the scrubbiest zaul team I've ever seen?
You showed examples where Phoenix lost, sure, but you only need one example of a Phoenix team beating a Zaul team to prove that it's possible.
Irrelevant. You guys keep using blanket statements, and that just doesn't work.
As said, I have invested heavily into Phoenix, all G11 7* high speed mods. I tried at least 30 test-battles (or more) against my top Zaul team in my arena (top 10).
Outcome: ALL LOST - 100 % - NO CHANCE.
What else do I need for a proof?
Let's see.. firstly he's got baze without chirrut, that's like bringing a gun to war without bullets baza is useless by himself. No nihilus or assassin... Boba is a questionable choice for the team. Just a horrible zaul team. Doesnt even count.
if that's the case then i want buffs on all my toons except my top 5 because i spent time and effort building them up and they aren't strong enough.
or they'd be in my top 5....lol
not every new toon released is suppose to automatically be more powerful than any other toons we already have. i know this game doesn't follow what actually IS in the sw universe power wise but still, you can't expect a bunch of rebels to defeat the sith.
Yoda UnNerfed
Barriss UnNerfed
I don't know man, maybe try not fighting THE ONE TEAM YOU CAN'T BEAT?
So, it all goes back to why do you think every new set of chars has to be meta destroyers that can wtfpwn everyone in existence?
The Phoenix squad is balanced. It can do well in all areas of the game without breaking anything. Not sure why this is bad.
it's not bad. it's just a player upset he sunk so much money into a squad and it's not OP.
every new doesn't have to be some meta destroyer.
wait until they release r2 if they do. people will be complaining r2 can't take on and wipe the floor with the sith.
I think it's a good thing. I was just stating if it wasn't for the zaul arena they would be a viable team.
The "one" team that rules 80% of the top 20s in the arena ..
anyway, Phoenix su**** big time in arena (which is for many the most important aspect of the game), but hey its ok, it just draw my personal conclusions out if it.. they wont buff it anyway
Cheers.
Arena viability is all relative. But we know that they can finish top 5. That counts as viable, right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/63yt7q/blue_whale/
That's a bit of a stretch. Rex is much more prevalent than Zaul, according to the Meta Report: https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/10/#squads
Top 10 Leaders :
- 44% Zaul
- 26% Rex
- Phoenix: 0%
In my shard: 80 Zaul.
The first PayToPlay game I ever played was World of Warcraft. People told me I was crazy for spending $15 per month on a video game.
Now I play a game where the only way to get a meaningful return on money you put in is to spend $1000+. I don't do that, because I don't have that kind of money. I spend about $5 per month, because that's what I can afford, and that's what I think the game is worth.
Notice what I said there: That's what I think the GAME is worth. When I played WoW, I did not spend $15/month on a character or gear, I spent it on the GAME.
This game has a different business model, but the end result is the same: When you buy a character, you're not actually buying a character. You're spending money on the GAME. Whether or not the character is worth it is irrelevant. That's just a reward the devs have decided to give you for being such a great supporter.
Regardless of how much you spend, remember what you're actually buying. The toons don't exist. You're paying for a game. If you don't like the toons you got, don't use them, and remember that your contribution makes this game possible.
/twocents
https://swgoh.gg/u/arkham/, A Team
your ahead of me at thinking $5.
i haven't spent a cent of my own money. i've received like half a dozen itunes gift cards i've used when i get them for b day or christmas but i will never spend a penny of my own money.
everything is free in this game and it only takes patience.
Hey Del. This sucks mate... EA gave every expectation that investing in the toons gives you a leg up with each wave they released. I just love red sabres and Sith so I spent my money there, I ignored rebels (including Chaze and co). This could have easily been me if I was a Rebels fan. Your investment should give you parity with the best teams who were also purchased. I hope you can continue to tweak these guys to improve their strength or bring one or two into interesting and strong synergies with other toons (I like the tanky guy with the glow staff and the lass with the dark sabre - I think they could complement other teams well).
It's not rocket surgery.
Have to agree - all the examples in the videos so far are vs. very sub-optimal setups.
I think this is the positive view you look at. Phoenix just didn't look like an arena team - they looked like a raid / PVE team. Some got excited about the uniques shared, but they have almost zero top tier arena skills. I bet their ships will be really strong and help a lot in fleet arena though.