I calculated the gear as being worth 13,140 crystals. Add on to that the omega mats (not sure what the crystal value of 6 omega mats would be - 300?), 4 million credits, purple ability mats, and HRSoldier shards... definitely worth at least a vault's worth of crystals.
Full stun guns go for 2541 crystals. And there's only 1 mk8 eyeball, not 2. And counting the full price is a bit unfair: people (should) only buy the 750 crystals prototype.
Add 2*599 for the ability mats. Maybe discount it a bit for the chance of better drops, but mostly those drop 10 purple and 3 omegas, so call it an even 15,000 crystals.
With the credits as well, you're well over a vault. And you get 55 soldier shards as a bonus. It's really great value.
Thank you for this economical evaluation. I felt as though this was a good deal but I was unsure. I wish we could do this with every decent pack that ends up trying to be sold in the shops.
Total 16,917 crystals minimum value or at least $110
Then you also get:
55 Hoth Rebel Scout shards
55 Hoth Rebel Soldier shards
30 Ability Material MKI
25 Ability Material MKII
20 Ability Material MKIII
45 T4 Training Droids
I think it's pretty fair to say that this pack is worth the $60 in crystal value. If you bought all of these (some of which you can't even buy) you would likely spend $150-$200 in crystals minimum. I usually don't ever think their packs are a good deal, but this one actually looks like a good deal.
With pleasure. It's hard to evaluate,because the new gear pieces haven't appeared in the shop yet (not after a refresh either), but I wouldn't expect them for less than the crystal amount that you put for them.
While I was at it, did the math for the CHS pack too:
First off, it only gives you HALF an unlock, which is silly, but the shards actually seem fair.
Captain Solo looks like a very slow farm: 460 energy for 6 shards so far. Which is ridiculously slow. But even if we go with the normal 33% droprate, it's:
100 crystals for 7.5 sims ~= 2.5 shards. To get 40, that means 1600 crystals. That's more than a box, which costs the same as the pack, and even at the vault rate for crystals, it's competitive.
And that's for 40 shards *now*, while 100 crystal refreshes only come at 3 per day.
Not as competitive as the Hoth bros pack, but still worthwhile if you want a headstart on CHS.
The crystal pack, though... don't buy! Assuming the usual droprate on the crystal pack (5-7 shards per purchase), it is absolutely not worth it. For 1300 crystals you'd have to be paying > 400 crystals *on average* for a 120 energy refresh.
Full stun guns go for 2541 crystals. And there's only 1 mk8 eyeball, not 2. And counting the full price is a bit unfair: people (should) only buy the 750 crystals prototype.
Add 2*599 for the ability mats. Maybe discount it a bit for the chance of better drops, but mostly those drop 10 purple and 3 omegas, so call it an even 15,000 crystals.
With the credits as well, you're well over a vault. And you get 55 soldier shards as a bonus. It's really great value.
Yes, most people would only buy the rare parts for items that need to be crafted from multiple prototypes. The only problem is that the Mk6 droid callers cannot be purchased, so it has no crystal equivalent (you might be able to estimate how many energy refreshes it would take to farm). None of the new G11 items can be purchased from shipments.
I don't think there's any character that can get to gear 12 without TB-only gear.
R2 can get full g12 froim the Hoth pack. (other then 2 things i have already saved for it)
This Indeed... was able to g12 R2 & Rex imo this HRS bundle pak is the best pak they have ever released... @theonemuffin it's definitely worth getting for just 2 whole stunguns/cuffs alone, not to mention all the other stuff.
I have had posts deleted complaining about pricing, drop rates, false advertising re pack store.
So it is only right that I pay a compliment.
This pack has been the best value pack I have seen, yeah sure it is a 'loss leader' but still, thank you, excellent value.
Just a shame about the rest of your store sales.
I thought the same thing as OP. It gives a full MK 6 Droid Caller, but General Kenobi apparently needs 50 parts of the MK 6 Droid Caller and a fully made one is not sufficient.
@Gwonk this happened to me too. I thought I'd be able to gear up Deathtrooper but there's confusion between the Droid caller and the Droid caller salvage. I have received the piece but it's not what I expected. Still great value though
Seems like a very valuable pack, I just am not a fan of people getting the same thing for different prices. $60 is about £46.50 yet we have to pay an extra £8.50.
Also seems specifically designed to get R2 to gear 12, imo. I think he will be an important toon to utilize in TB with his Rebel tag and Number Crunch zeta.
I calculated the gear as being worth 13,140 crystals. Add on to that the omega mats (not sure what the crystal value of 6 omega mats would be - 300?), 4 million credits, purple ability mats, and HRSoldier shards... definitely worth at least a vault's worth of crystals.
For omegas, you are probably looking at a value of about 200 crystals per omega (for example, refreshing the top tier of the omega battle is 225 crystals for 1 omega).
For the G12 pieces - not sure if they'll be rotated into shipments as of yet, but they require 50 salvage, only farmable from a 10-energy cost node, with likely a low (sub 20%) drop rate. 1250-1400 is probably a decent estimation for what they'll go for if/when they find their way into shipments.
This pack is a no-brainer if you're a spender - probably the best-value pack they've released to date - even if you've already got the Hoth brothers at 7 stars. I had HRSoldier at 5, so this cut at least a month or two off my farm.
My questions is what level do you have to be to get this? I'm newer and my first account that is 76 sees this, and my 2nd account (new main cause I screwed up the initial) is 65 and does not see this in the store.
My lvl 27 also doesnt, so i believe you need to be a certain level to even see this pack?
do NOT buy any packs...CG changed the adverted 5 Star requirement of hoth soldier and new han solo magicaly to 7 Stars you can count yourself how many packs you need to buy,dropping you each 5-7 chards...
@Moonspell I believe the devs addressed the star requirements for HRSoldier and Han today. They should still be as previously advertised - what's showing right now is a visual bug. So only a 5* HRSoldier will be required for TB this week
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That's right, I forgot the complete gear isn't working properly so OP will have to wait or just use the salvage on R2
I can definitely wait, just wanted to make sure I received what I thought I was paying for.
I calculated the gear as being worth 13,140 crystals. Add on to that the omega mats (not sure what the crystal value of 6 omega mats would be - 300?), 4 million credits, purple ability mats, and HRSoldier shards... definitely worth at least a vault's worth of crystals.
Stun cuffs (2) = 2,800 crystals
Bio-tech implants (2) = 2,240 crystals
Stun guns (2) = 2,800 crystals
Mk 7 Merr-Sonn shield generator = 1,250 crystals
Mk 6 Arakyd droid caller = 1,400 crystals
Mk 9 biotech implant = 1,400 crystals
Mk 9 Neuro-Saav electrobinocukars = 1,250 crystals
Full stun guns go for 2541 crystals. And there's only 1 mk8 eyeball, not 2. And counting the full price is a bit unfair: people (should) only buy the 750 crystals prototype.
So:
Stun cuffs (2) = 2,800 crystals
Bio-tech implants (mk 8) = 750 crystals
Stun guns (2) = 5,082 crystals
Mk 7 Merr-Sonn shield generator = 1,250 crystals
Mk 6 Arakyd droid caller = 1,400 crystals
Mk 9 biotech implant = 1,400 crystals
Mk 9 Neuro-Saav electrobinocukars = 1,250
Total: 13,932 crystals.
Add 2*599 for the ability mats. Maybe discount it a bit for the chance of better drops, but mostly those drop 10 purple and 3 omegas, so call it an even 15,000 crystals.
With the credits as well, you're well over a vault. And you get 55 soldier shards as a bonus. It's really great value.
2x MK3 Czerka Stun Cuffs - 2800 crystals
MK9 Neuro-Saav Electrobinoculars - 1250 crystals
MK8 Biotect Implant - 2000 crystals
MK7 Merr-Sonn Shield Generator - 2800 crystals
4m Credits - 1785 min to 4760 max crystals
6 Omega Materials - 1200 crystals
MK6 Arakyd Droid Caller - ???? crystals
MK9 Biotech Implant - ???? crystals
Total 16,917 crystals minimum value or at least $110
Then you also get:
55 Hoth Rebel Scout shards
55 Hoth Rebel Soldier shards
30 Ability Material MKI
25 Ability Material MKII
20 Ability Material MKIII
45 T4 Training Droids
I think it's pretty fair to say that this pack is worth the $60 in crystal value. If you bought all of these (some of which you can't even buy) you would likely spend $150-$200 in crystals minimum. I usually don't ever think their packs are a good deal, but this one actually looks like a good deal.
I bought the pack and am very happy with my purchase. Hopefully there will be more packs with fully formed high-tier gear going forward
While I was at it, did the math for the CHS pack too:
First off, it only gives you HALF an unlock, which is silly, but the shards actually seem fair.
Captain Solo looks like a very slow farm: 460 energy for 6 shards so far. Which is ridiculously slow. But even if we go with the normal 33% droprate, it's:
100 crystals for 7.5 sims ~= 2.5 shards. To get 40, that means 1600 crystals. That's more than a box, which costs the same as the pack, and even at the vault rate for crystals, it's competitive.
And that's for 40 shards *now*, while 100 crystal refreshes only come at 3 per day.
Not as competitive as the Hoth bros pack, but still worthwhile if you want a headstart on CHS.
The crystal pack, though... don't buy! Assuming the usual droprate on the crystal pack (5-7 shards per purchase), it is absolutely not worth it. For 1300 crystals you'd have to be paying > 400 crystals *on average* for a 120 energy refresh.
Yes, most people would only buy the rare parts for items that need to be crafted from multiple prototypes. The only problem is that the Mk6 droid callers cannot be purchased, so it has no crystal equivalent (you might be able to estimate how many energy refreshes it would take to farm). None of the new G11 items can be purchased from shipments.
This Indeed... was able to g12 R2 & Rex imo this HRS bundle pak is the best pak they have ever released... @theonemuffin it's definitely worth getting for just 2 whole stunguns/cuffs alone, not to mention all the other stuff.
So it is only right that I pay a compliment.
This pack has been the best value pack I have seen, yeah sure it is a 'loss leader' but still, thank you, excellent value.
Just a shame about the rest of your store sales.
@Gwonk this happened to me too. I thought I'd be able to gear up Deathtrooper but there's confusion between the Droid caller and the Droid caller salvage. I have received the piece but it's not what I expected. Still great value though
you can get TO g12 but you cannot assign any gear on g12 level without tb
For omegas, you are probably looking at a value of about 200 crystals per omega (for example, refreshing the top tier of the omega battle is 225 crystals for 1 omega).
This pack is a no-brainer if you're a spender - probably the best-value pack they've released to date - even if you've already got the Hoth brothers at 7 stars. I had HRSoldier at 5, so this cut at least a month or two off my farm.
My lvl 27 also doesnt, so i believe you need to be a certain level to even see this pack?
Key point: NEW g11 pieces that get R2 (and maybe others) to g12.
as you need 7 star toons, its why to expensive to level up with this packs.
This pack is definitely one of the better ones out there.