Not saying this is proof, but I need one Bastila Fallen shard and I just refreshed attempts and energy 3 times and have received ZERO shards in 15 attempts. At a cost of around 500 crystals (I already used refreshes earlier today).
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
Nope. Haven't you read? If you are nearing an end to a farm, the drop rate gets lowered on purpose for those last few shards. 🙄
Not saying this is proof, but I need one Bastila Fallen shard and I just refreshed attempts and energy 3 times and have received ZERO shards in 15 attempts. At a cost of around 500 crystals (I already used refreshes earlier today).
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.
Everyone always remembers the 0/15 days in these threads, but rarely do they mention/remember the 6,7,8,9, 10, 11,12,13 shard days that are above average.
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
You have no less guarantee for shards. If you do 600 battles, you'll get (close to) 200 shards, no matter that your two days farming 'research' says otherwise. You can all your savings in a slot machine and leave the place empty handed or with lower winnings than investment.
If you are banking on getting 15 shards in 24 hours with 4-5 refreshes than yes, it's pure gambling, but if the numbers indicate you can farm a toon in 60 days and you even start a few days earlier, you'll make it in time for the event.
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
if it were like a casino 500 people could do 1000 battles/sims each and only one guy could win ~thousands of shards while 499 got zero, or 99 got 12, etc.
And what are the manipulative mechanics employed here?
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
if it were like a casino 500 people could do 1000 battles/sims each and only one guy could win ~thousands of shards while 499 got zero, or 99 got 12, etc.
And what are the manipulative mechanics employed here?
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
You know what guys? I concede you are all right and I am wrong. There is nothing manipulative going on here everything is on the level. So keep buying Crystal’s to get the refreshes you need to get the shards you want. You are not being manipulated at all, you are doing it of your own volition. Keep spending money until you get all the drops you need. And thank you very much for funding my Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes experience. I shouldn’t be such an ingrate. Thank you it is much appreciated.
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
But they also said Monday still exists! These are the kind of things they say because they don't want you to see the truth!
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
This thread is kind of like trying to prove to flat Earther's that the Earth is round. Provide all of the evidence you want, they will believe what they want to believe contrary to the evidence provided.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
I apologize I change my mind again. Farming for shards looks absolutely nothing like a video slot machine. And absolutely in no way do you have to spend money to purchase the crystals to operate the slot machine, I apologize I miss spoke again I miss spoke again. It’s not a slot machine it’s simply farming for shards on a mobile game.
Much like a video slot machine the lights and sounds you experience when operating such a machine in no way manipulate your emotions at all and gives you an endorphin rush when you get what you want. They do not excite you at all and couldn’t possibly excite anyone else for that matter. I agree with you there is nothing manipulative going on here.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
So when the game operators state they don’t use manipulative mechanics, that’s not good enough?
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
I apologize I change my mind again. Farming for shards looks absolutely nothing like a video slot machine. And absolutely in no way do you have to spend money to purchase the crystals to operate the slot machine, I apologize I miss spoke again I miss spoke again. It’s not a slot machine it’s simply farming for shards on a mobile game.
Much like a video slot machine the lights and sounds you experience when operating such a machine in no way manipulate your emotions at all and gives you an endorphin rush when you get what you want. They do not excite you at all and couldn’t possibly excite anyone else for that matter. I agree with you there is nothing manipulative going on here.
You are merely talking about f2p game model fundamentals in general. What does that have to do with drop rates and whether they are stable or actively changing in this game?
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
if it were like a casino 500 people could do 1000 battles/sims each and only one guy could win ~thousands of shards while 499 got zero, or 99 got 12, etc.
And what are the manipulative mechanics employed here?
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
You know what guys? I concede you are all right and I am wrong. There is nothing manipulative going on here everything is on the level. So keep buying Crystal’s to get the refreshes you need to get the shards you want. You are not being manipulated at all, you are doing it of your own volition. Keep spending money until you get all the drops you need. And thank you very much for funding my Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes experience. I shouldn’t be such an ingrate. Thank you it is much appreciated.
It's good to know people can listen to reason, come to a new-found realization and can admit that they were wrong. good for you. While I agree that ftp shouldn't be such ingrates, and I would add shouldn't complain all the time about unfairness when they literally freeload off of spenders (and I just mean that in the literal sense of the word literal, not as offense), they, and you, should thank whales more than minnows such as myself. But congrats again. It's nice to hear
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
if it were like a casino 500 people could do 1000 battles/sims each and only one guy could win ~thousands of shards while 499 got zero, or 99 got 12, etc.
And what are the manipulative mechanics employed here?
This is why this game should be regulated like the casino that it is. Contact your representative in Congress.
Conspiracy theories with no data to back them up are deserving of wasting congress' time?
Data you ask? When you are “farming” for shards you are telling me that’s not like a slot machine? Doesn’t seem very conspiratorial to me.
Not quite. Shards even out at 33% or close in the end. You know you'll need 600-ish battles for 200 shards.
You can't calculate your winnings with a slot machine. Rolling looks similar, completely different thing.
At least slot machines by law are programmed to PAY OUT a certain percentage. “Farming” shards are not guaranteed at at all to pay out. Which makes this game actually far worse than a casino.
I tell you what why don’t we let Congress decide? Contact your representatives today. We are $22 trillion in debt I’m sure they would love to find a new source of revenue that this game could provide our country. Or the mechanics of this game can be adjusted to more fairly work. I think it is naïve to think that this game is not set up to milk you of every cent that you have.
Uh...this might be news to you but mobile games EXIST to make money. So its obvious they'll try subtle nudges to make you spend. Whether you or do spend or not, that's on you.
It's totally possible to progress without spending.
That said, I don't think they reduce drop rates with impending event either.
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
You know what guys? I concede you are all right and I am wrong. There is nothing manipulative going on here everything is on the level. So keep buying Crystal’s to get the refreshes you need to get the shards you want. You are not being manipulated at all, you are doing it of your own volition. Keep spending money until you get all the drops you need. And thank you very much for funding my Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes experience. I shouldn’t be such an ingrate. Thank you it is much appreciated.
It's good to know people can listen to reason, come to a new-found realization and can admit that they were wrong. good for you. While I agree that ftp shouldn't be such ingrates, and I would add shouldn't complain all the time about unfairness when they literally freeload off of spenders (and I just mean that in the literal sense of the word literal, not as offense), they, and you, should thank whales more than minnows such as myself. But congrats again. It's nice to hear
I know the first post was sarcasm. Not sure about this response though.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
So when the game operators state they don’t use manipulative mechanics, that’s not good enough?
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
I believe I have adequately explained myself in previous posts the evidence of how people are manipulated into spending. Actually it’s not my fault that you cannot comprehend how casinos and Mobile games designed their games to manipulate people. That’s actually your problem.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
So when the game operators state they don’t use manipulative mechanics, that’s not good enough?
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
I believe I have adequately explained myself in previous posts the evidence of how people are manipulated into spending. Actually it’s not my fault that you cannot comprehend how casinos and Mobile games designed their games to manipulate people. That’s actually your problem.
Thanks for the advice. I’ll seek help. And I’ll seek evidence of drop rates reducing before / during an event elsewhere.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
So when the game operators state they don’t use manipulative mechanics, that’s not good enough?
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
I believe I have adequately explained myself in previous posts the evidence of how people are manipulated into spending. Actually it’s not my fault that you cannot comprehend how casinos and Mobile games designed their games to manipulate people. That’s actually your problem.
Darjelo, QuigonLives appears to be arguing that mobile games in general are setup in a predatory manner to make money off of microtransactions. Which is true, and I don't believe this fact has been disputed on this forum (maybe the extent to which CG does this).
However, despite being correct, Quigon is arguing this in a thread about changing drop rates over time to manipulate extra spending, which is causing them to be misunderstood. Unless of course they do not believe the data and the devs that support their being no change in drop rates over time, in which case I have completely misunderstood Quigon's argument.
I don’t get the **** sarcasm. They stated there are no manipulative mechanics. You and all the other doubters have no meaningful evidence to the contrary.
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
So when the game operators state they don’t use manipulative mechanics, that’s not good enough?
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
I believe I have adequately explained myself in previous posts the evidence of how people are manipulated into spending. Actually it’s not my fault that you cannot comprehend how casinos and Mobile games designed their games to manipulate people. That’s actually your problem.
Darjelo, QuigonLives appears to be arguing that mobile games in general are setup in a predatory manner to make money off of microtransactions. Which is true, and I don't believe this fact has been disputed on this forum (maybe the extent to which CG does this).
However, despite being correct, Quigon is arguing this in a thread about changing drop rates over time to manipulate extra spending, which is causing them to be misunderstood. Unless of course they do not believe the data and the devs that support their being no change in drop rates over time, in which case I have completely misunderstood Quigon's argument.
Quigon apparently believes these to be the same question. The game is manipulative, X manipulative thing is possible, ergo the game must be doing X manipulative thing. Which doesn't follow in the slightest of course, but that's as close as I can get to following his line of thought.
2/10. This thread is a horrible waste of everyone's time.
OP, please update us once you realize the actual data proves that drop rates are constant (which they are). TIA.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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The juhanni drops have **** from the get go. I don't care what anyone says. they have not been an even 30%. Not remotely close to it.
I've farmed more than enough toons to know that she's taken longer than anyone except sabine. Big difference is sabine is fairly optional. Juhanni, not so much.
Either every other toon i've done has been off the charts good, or she's off the charts bad. Seeing as i've been doing 2 at a time and the other toon hasn't been abysmal at all, it's not pure RNG. Unless, that is, i have unusually good RNG on every other toon (which i don't).
It's just you.
She was very easy for me
Same. She was the fastest OR farm for me, and I’m pretty sure one of the fastest farms in general for me. Farmed her the same time as Canderous and she was only 20 shards behind him, both having 1 refresh a day.
Carth was the last for me, but she literally took forever and a day to finish.
You literally misused the word "literally". It figuratively drives me crazy when people do that.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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It is NOT rng when the droprate is lowered as the event gets closer.
Q: What's the deal with gear drop rates getting worse the closer you get to a full set?
A: Cyanides - question again! We don't have tech for this, and honestly, it's something we wouldn't really want to do. When designing economies, we rely on drop rates to math out how long we expect it to take players to earn gear, shards, etc. as well as determining pricing for the item being farmed. Adding variability based on player inventory would make this more difficult and ultimately, not really worth the effort imo. I almost want to change my name to CG_WeDontChangeDropRates
It is NOT rng when the droprate is lowered as the event gets closer.
Q: What's the deal with gear drop rates getting worse the closer you get to a full set?
A: Cyanides - question again! We don't have tech for this, and honestly, it's something we wouldn't really want to do. When designing economies, we rely on drop rates to math out how long we expect it to take players to earn gear, shards, etc. as well as determining pricing for the item being farmed. Adding variability based on player inventory would make this more difficult and ultimately, not really worth the effort imo. I almost want to change my name to CG_WeDontChangeDropRates
@Kyno OPs question is answered close this thread now
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Why waste 500 crystals on energy and refreshes when you have 7 days to complete the event and, I assume, only need that ONE shard to finish farming?
People either get bored or it gets locked. (soon)
See you later alligator.
Nope. Haven't you read? If you are nearing an end to a farm, the drop rate gets lowered on purpose for those last few shards. 🙄
Everyone always remembers the 0/15 days in these threads, but rarely do they mention/remember the 6,7,8,9, 10, 11,12,13 shard days that are above average.
hmm...lol I remember my first congressional hearing
Yes but I need to know how much additional gear I’ll need. I’m about to hit tier 5 and I’m told it’s difficult.
But yes, I could spend the next few days trying for that one shard.
Also, i would remember a 15/15 day. It’s never happened for me.
You have no less guarantee for shards. If you do 600 battles, you'll get (close to) 200 shards, no matter that your two days farming 'research' says otherwise. You can all your savings in a slot machine and leave the place empty handed or with lower winnings than investment.
If you are banking on getting 15 shards in 24 hours with 4-5 refreshes than yes, it's pure gambling, but if the numbers indicate you can farm a toon in 60 days and you even start a few days earlier, you'll make it in time for the event.
Not sure - my degree is in Maths and Statistics.
Have you got one of them?
I’m well aware of the fact that mobile games need to make money to survive. However with that being said, using manipulative mechanics to play on people’s emotions like casinos do, is unacceptable unless you want to be regulated like a casino. That’s the whole point.
And, for the nth time in this thread, the devs have openly stated that there are no manipulative mechanics used in this game.
just one? not me
if it were like a casino 500 people could do 1000 battles/sims each and only one guy could win ~thousands of shards while 499 got zero, or 99 got 12, etc.
And what are the manipulative mechanics employed here?
You know what guys? I concede you are all right and I am wrong. There is nothing manipulative going on here everything is on the level. So keep buying Crystal’s to get the refreshes you need to get the shards you want. You are not being manipulated at all, you are doing it of your own volition. Keep spending money until you get all the drops you need. And thank you very much for funding my Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes experience. I shouldn’t be such an ingrate. Thank you it is much appreciated.
But they also said Monday still exists! These are the kind of things they say because they don't want you to see the truth!
Stun guns!
Why do you keep on with this conspiracy nonsense?
It’s because of this reason sir, like it or not other people do not agree with you.
I apologize I change my mind again. Farming for shards looks absolutely nothing like a video slot machine. And absolutely in no way do you have to spend money to purchase the crystals to operate the slot machine, I apologize I miss spoke again I miss spoke again. It’s not a slot machine it’s simply farming for shards on a mobile game.
Much like a video slot machine the lights and sounds you experience when operating such a machine in no way manipulate your emotions at all and gives you an endorphin rush when you get what you want. They do not excite you at all and couldn’t possibly excite anyone else for that matter. I agree with you there is nothing manipulative going on here.
And when you and others are challenged to gather any data to back up your claim, nobody does that? P
I’m not asking to be agreed with, I’m asking for something other than spurious conjecture to back up your claim. Though, as the posts drag on, I’m beginning to wonder why.
You are merely talking about f2p game model fundamentals in general. What does that have to do with drop rates and whether they are stable or actively changing in this game?
It's good to know people can listen to reason, come to a new-found realization and can admit that they were wrong. good for you. While I agree that ftp shouldn't be such ingrates, and I would add shouldn't complain all the time about unfairness when they literally freeload off of spenders (and I just mean that in the literal sense of the word literal, not as offense), they, and you, should thank whales more than minnows such as myself. But congrats again. It's nice to hear
I know the first post was sarcasm. Not sure about this response though.
I believe I have adequately explained myself in previous posts the evidence of how people are manipulated into spending. Actually it’s not my fault that you cannot comprehend how casinos and Mobile games designed their games to manipulate people. That’s actually your problem.
Darjelo, QuigonLives appears to be arguing that mobile games in general are setup in a predatory manner to make money off of microtransactions. Which is true, and I don't believe this fact has been disputed on this forum (maybe the extent to which CG does this).
However, despite being correct, Quigon is arguing this in a thread about changing drop rates over time to manipulate extra spending, which is causing them to be misunderstood. Unless of course they do not believe the data and the devs that support their being no change in drop rates over time, in which case I have completely misunderstood Quigon's argument.
Quigon apparently believes these to be the same question. The game is manipulative, X manipulative thing is possible, ergo the game must be doing X manipulative thing. Which doesn't follow in the slightest of course, but that's as close as I can get to following his line of thought.
OP, please update us once you realize the actual data proves that drop rates are constant (which they are). TIA.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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You literally misused the word "literally". It figuratively drives me crazy when people do that.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Q: What's the deal with gear drop rates getting worse the closer you get to a full set?
A: Cyanides - question again! We don't have tech for this, and honestly, it's something we wouldn't really want to do. When designing economies, we rely on drop rates to math out how long we expect it to take players to earn gear, shards, etc. as well as determining pricing for the item being farmed. Adding variability based on player inventory would make this more difficult and ultimately, not really worth the effort imo. I almost want to change my name to CG_WeDontChangeDropRates
@Kyno OPs question is answered close this thread now