Shard chats can be a bad thing
August 9, 2020 1:10PM
edited August 2020
Hi guys,
I have been playing for 4.5+ years with ~5.7m GP. In the past months, I have been able to climb top 30 but a few guys in the shard have been asking me not to attack them when their PO is 4-6 hours later than mine! This is absolutely unreasonable to make such a selfish and arrogant request. 2 hour could be reasonable but at least 4 hrs? They are mostly from Russian group claiming they have to climb early and that I cannot attack them. They have a shard chat apparently after they said "everyone will target me" and then at least 3 of the guys have been targeting me like some bullies during my PO when I climb around/through them. They are working as a group to try to dominate and take control of the whole shard for their OWN benefits. It's like they are the only ones who need to climb and others not n their group are not allowed doing so. My PO is at least 4 hours earlier than theirs (not even around) and I have every reason to climb during my PO. It is rude and selfish to ask me not to attack them while keep messing with my PO. Honestly, shard chat could be an effective way to share the rewards among the group but I don't think its a good thing anymore if a bunch of selfish players are bullying others who are not in their group and not letting them to climb. After all, its a community involving players from all around the world and not just the shard chat group!
This bullying happens whenever I get around their range over the last few months. I am tired of this non-sense and have been asking CG/EA to do something against them (not much progress atm). If the game works in this environment with these selfish arrogant groups, there is no fun or fair play at all as the arenas are just occupied by those bulliers and a lot of players will give up playing. So I am genuinely asking if anyone knows how this problem can be solved or how I can get these players banned or just switch to another shard. Hope you guys can help me.
Sidenote to CG group on some of the improvements you can work on:
1. Allow people to select multiple shipments in stores
2. Shorten the time of free pack
3. Allow people to sell mods right at the moment they get them as rewards
4. Increase the mod storage size
5. The whole GL thing is stupid. So much farming. So much new energy farming after the crazy farming. So much time needed for mirror matches
6. LS GEOTB is still way too difficult
I have been playing for 4.5+ years with ~5.7m GP. In the past months, I have been able to climb top 30 but a few guys in the shard have been asking me not to attack them when their PO is 4-6 hours later than mine! This is absolutely unreasonable to make such a selfish and arrogant request. 2 hour could be reasonable but at least 4 hrs? They are mostly from Russian group claiming they have to climb early and that I cannot attack them. They have a shard chat apparently after they said "everyone will target me" and then at least 3 of the guys have been targeting me like some bullies during my PO when I climb around/through them. They are working as a group to try to dominate and take control of the whole shard for their OWN benefits. It's like they are the only ones who need to climb and others not n their group are not allowed doing so. My PO is at least 4 hours earlier than theirs (not even around) and I have every reason to climb during my PO. It is rude and selfish to ask me not to attack them while keep messing with my PO. Honestly, shard chat could be an effective way to share the rewards among the group but I don't think its a good thing anymore if a bunch of selfish players are bullying others who are not in their group and not letting them to climb. After all, its a community involving players from all around the world and not just the shard chat group!
This bullying happens whenever I get around their range over the last few months. I am tired of this non-sense and have been asking CG/EA to do something against them (not much progress atm). If the game works in this environment with these selfish arrogant groups, there is no fun or fair play at all as the arenas are just occupied by those bulliers and a lot of players will give up playing. So I am genuinely asking if anyone knows how this problem can be solved or how I can get these players banned or just switch to another shard. Hope you guys can help me.
Sidenote to CG group on some of the improvements you can work on:
1. Allow people to select multiple shipments in stores
2. Shorten the time of free pack
3. Allow people to sell mods right at the moment they get them as rewards
4. Increase the mod storage size
5. The whole GL thing is stupid. So much farming. So much new energy farming after the crazy farming. So much time needed for mirror matches
6. LS GEOTB is still way too difficult
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Though this post will likely cause them to come after you more.
Don't get me wrong, it is very unfair those with the later payouts are locking you out, and the first two are just plain rude, but I think you made a poor decision there.
What exactly did you expect EA/CG to do? It's an arena. They are not going to prevent players from targeting you.
Shard chats are not a monolith.
Very likely but the situation never gets better. This is the only way I can voice out.
Maybe I went a little offensive coz at that time I just got dropped again and again. [Name removed] seems less rude comparing to them but I don't think [name removed] is the person in charge. I don't know whos in charge. But the message I got before was "DO NOT ATTACK THEM". They never invited me in. Even if I'm invited, it's not a right thing to join a bully group to bully others with at least several hours before me. That's my personal thoughts. Plus I chatted with another players in the shard and it seems it's not that easy to get into the group (possibly because of regulating the number of players so they can exploit the most benefits).
Could be a good idea. But the problem is my shard have like 25-30 GL. Most of them are in the top 20 and probably in the same shard chat. So it will be difficult to counter them...
I don't think [name removed]is the person in charge. I don't know whos in charge. But the message I got at first place was "DO NOT ATTACK THEM". They never invited me in. Even if I'm invited, it's not a right thing to join a bully group to bully others with at least several hours before me. That's my personal thoughts. Plus I chatted with another players in the shard and it seems it's not that easy to get into the group (possibly because of regulating the number of players so they can exploit the most benefits).
If you view it like this, the only reasonable thing to do is to play along. You don't have to make nice with them or interact with them at all on a day-to-day basis. Just tell them your payout time and let them point you to a list of their payouts. No further stress, no one wastes crystals, everyone wins. What's not to like?
Those screenshots [they were removed, edit:Kyno] are just a part of the chat! Before that, they have already asked me not to attack them when I climbed! Then i checked on their PO and realized their PO are at least 4 hrs after me. Then I told them "it doesn't make sense to ask me not to attack them". But then they said "they have to climb early". Then who I am supposed to hit during my climb? Days by days, they keep attacking me as a bully whenever I get around them. Who will ask a person getting bullied to be polite with the bullies?
Thats what a shard chat supposed to be like. But they are not working like this. My PO is at least 4 hrs before them. I always get the highest possible jump and I don't see why sometimes they are at my possible jump and I can't hit them? It's at least 4 hrs! I never heard of a chat not allowing people to attack in a 4 hrs range. All I ask for is I can avoid people in 2 hrs range but it's not reasonable for 4+ hrs & they don't drop me right before my PO & I never attack after my PO if they don't mess with my mine. That's what a normal shard chat works like.
And I have actually pointed my PO to another person of the chat and asked for a list of people within 2 hrs range for mutual avoidance. But no agreement!
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That would actually benefit CG by reducing the number of crystals paid out to the player-base, so stop giving them ideas.
Shard chats that work together benefit the players.
We dont agree often... bit this is sound advice.
Op. You want to work with them to get the best you can get. Them hating you and sniping you will cost you wins, crystals and money to stay ahead of them
By the time this second 'shard' you want to go to war with will have the GLs ready, there will probably be a meta shift.
Exactly from what I've seen most of the people not in the shard group does not have GL. When they have GL ready, there's probably meta shift. And I reckon the group of shard chat are mostly spenders as most get GLs pretty fast since the release.
Seeming like cheating and being cheating are not the same thing.
Unfortunately they are not violating anything by organizing in this way, or removing mods/changing teams to allow someone an easy win.
Also, such a general statement is not really true, as there are many chats that do not operate in this fashion. Most are just trying to maximize PO and minimize issues.
However, in most shards you need to earn access, you will probably never get it if you are always two metas behind. Why do you think someone deserves to take rank 1 when 20+ players adapted to a meta shift and the said person in still running GAS or DR?
I don't suppose you can prove the majority of shard chats are friendly open to anyone and willing to rotate payouts equally, can you? Because it sounds like you are calling me a liar when I described my view of shard chats...
No I did not, not even in the slightest.
Just that your generalization is not accurate, as most generalizations are not....hence "generalizations". They also tend to be based on localised personal experience, and not empirical evidence.
I have spoken to many players on many fronts, just for my own edification. Also, I didnt say the majority. You can search through and look at many of the places people tend to look for and complain about such groups and judge for yourself, but again that's not empirical and has significant bias and gaps. Either way, there are a lot of shard chats and definitely less complaints.