Is there ANY fun for F2P left in this game?
lvl:80 Arena Power:38k Arena Rank: top 100
I am start thinking that the answer is NO. this game slowly converts into P2P game.
To have a toon that matters at all it should be at least 6* g8
Let's have a quick preview of shard sources:
Cantina - I think it is no longer F2P - you got mods to farm, drop rate is low.
Cantina Shop - I think it has never been for F2P - max I get 1 purchase per day - 5 shards
Arena Shipments - still F2P - I can get 10 shards per day
GW - still F2P if there is anything to farm.
I am ok that P2P should have an advantage, so I will start thinking that my highest rank in Arena will be 100 or 200, 500.. but main problem is that if I fall in Arena rank crystals and Arena tokens that I will get will not be enough to have any progress so I will stop playing. And I think that other F2P will also stop playing when they reach such state...
I think that devs should take a little care about F2P - I think they should increase rewards in Arena for lower tiers and add new toons in GW(no need to be top toons but valuable)
I am start thinking that the answer is NO. this game slowly converts into P2P game.
To have a toon that matters at all it should be at least 6* g8
Let's have a quick preview of shard sources:
Cantina - I think it is no longer F2P - you got mods to farm, drop rate is low.
Cantina Shop - I think it has never been for F2P - max I get 1 purchase per day - 5 shards
Arena Shipments - still F2P - I can get 10 shards per day
GW - still F2P if there is anything to farm.
I am ok that P2P should have an advantage, so I will start thinking that my highest rank in Arena will be 100 or 200, 500.. but main problem is that if I fall in Arena rank crystals and Arena tokens that I will get will not be enough to have any progress so I will stop playing. And I think that other F2P will also stop playing when they reach such state...
I think that devs should take a little care about F2P - I think they should increase rewards in Arena for lower tiers and add new toons in GW(no need to be top toons but valuable)
0
Replies
would you tell me what is your level and arena rank please?
#1141 in tournament.
Arena rank 1. Lvl 80.
you're ranked top100, how many shoretroopers are you expecting in your arena server/leaderboard? If you're ranked top5 it might cause problems, with the emphasis on might.
Amongst things I do/did enjoy:
- The Raid (still do, trying to beat my personal record every try)
- The random events (Yoda, Palpatine,...)
- Beating all the Mods challenges with the minimum possible teams
- This tournament we just finished, more for the novelty than for the actual experience
- Seeing the uproar on the forum about every new game feature
- The new Raid that we got in August... oops
And things I enjoy less:
- Leveling a toon and find that he adds another 3 Holo Projectors to the 30-strong backlist of shortage
- Seeing my Arena performance sink further every day (used to be always #1 before mods, now I have a hard time maintaining top-20)
- Going a whole week looking for a useful Mod and not finding one
So in one word: if you get frustrated with Arena, focus on something else (e.g. clear all Mod challenges).
Free to play here....
With the exception of hating RNG and get hated back from it, i still love the game.
My point is, im in a great guild, we do raids every other day and we fun-chat every day. Its always the community, that makes a game great or fall.
The fixed payout times are the worst part of this game and makes it absolutely family-unfriendly.
your point being?
smh
@leef , your posts are tone-deaf and straight petty. Your roster is mega developed, youve probably been playing since near the launch of this game. F2P is not at all the same for newer players. They didnt get to camp out at level 70 or before raid gear, or before mods and just bide their time grinding comfortably and playing catch up for literally months. New players have to deal with having to get much more stuff with much less time. The goalposts are shifting before they reach them, unlike with you. Its worse. Stop acting like all F2P have as much luxury as you do.
That is what I want - that's why I think they should increase rewards for lower tiers in Arena and bring new toons in GW - so when I go in lower Arena rank to be able have fun.
Sooner or later all F2P will go in lower Arena Rank because P2P toons is like a ticket to Arena top.
that's ok - just give a chance for lower ranks to have fun.
I mean for lvl 80 at lower rank
"When did one start playing?"
@Leef : I started playing about 5 weeks ago, do you think my experience of the game is the same as yours?
https://swgoh.gg/u/ddlooping/collection/
Do you think I'll ever be able to catch-up with other F2P players who started months before me?
I guess I could if I started dropping bucket-loads of money into the game, but I won't.
I'm not saying I'm not having fun, but I do get pargame's point and agree with him to a certain extent.
First of all I've been playing since februari. Installed the game 14 februari to be exact. lvl cap was raised to lvl80 on 31march, so i didnt camp out at lvl 70.
I'm not sure why you would call my posts tone-deaf and straight petty. I'm i wrong, is this game not f2p friendly? Doesn't this game provide a chance for all f2p players to be reasonably competative?
I'm aware that i got lucky with quite a few things during the time i've been playing swgoh. I only posted my swgoh.gg link because he asked for it. Doesn't mean i wouldnt have enjoyed the game if i ranked top100 in arena. Alot of players don't even finish top100, and they are still having fun. And let's be honest, it's not like there are many servers/leaderboards with more than 50 whales on it. If you're not in the top100, being f2p isn't the cause.
Do you think your experience is different than mine when i was lvl 61?
You don't need to catch-up with players who've been playing much longer than you have. You only compete with players who started around the same time as you did in arena. Obviously you won't catch up, neither will I, so I don't expect i'll do well in tournaments.
Furthermore, you actually have the oppertunity to progress way faster than i did when i was lvl 61. I didnt have raids, i didnt have credits heist, i didnt have tournaments, i didnt have cheaper cantina refreshes, i didnt have bonus cantina energy. so there's that.
Now with mods they have a clear and huge advantage over everyone else and f2p will never ever be able to compete vs their speed. Add into that the premium meta toons fac and rex and it I am literally fighting vs a pay wall in arena everyday.
There is still a ton of stuff and fun to do for f2p for sure but being at the top of any leaderboard or even near the top will not be happening anymore. I'm already out of GW toons to farm, almost done with arena toons and cantina toons are not a reason to play when you have to choose between trying to stay somewhat competive and actually doing something in game besides looking for plus 1 speed everyday.
Unfortuantly the game is heading to fast in the p2w direction. I am already scaling back my play time and I'm sure I'm not the only f2p who started last year that is doing that or is stil here. So pretty soon when people like me aren't here or can't keep up with speed on mods it'll simply become another whale vs whale game and those die quickly since everyone gets bored fast. I know for sure that if I spent thousands on a game that I better have some opponents to beat and not just fight the same few whales everyday. If I paid for fac or rex I wouldn't want to be fighting vs him in every team. I would want to fight f2p like me.
https://swgoh.gg/u/warmonkeyy/
Your thought process is completely faulted.
We that have been here for a while went through the same stuff you new f2p players have, if not worse in some instances. Sure we had certain things a bit easier but you new f2p's get credit A LOT faster than we ever did.
your average rank is #3. Seems to me you're doing great!
i'm not a big fan of the speed secondary race either, but eventually f2p will catch up, even with speed secondary mods.
Newer players don't compete vs older ones, except in the tournament, and well that was all kinds of poor implementation.
Its very, very easy as a f2p to hold out in the top 10 on a new shard.