After a few cracks at it, these stats appear to be correct now that:
Leader abilities count in 1st turn
Poe's speed was nerfed from 143 to 142.
Added preliminary Yoda stats.
If there are any mistakes please reply and I'll fix.
And for the record, I only just compiled these stats, the great @Kylven and his amazing website (http://www.swgohcantina.com/) actually provided the data!
Also in another post they said they were looking at it because the leader speed seems to be giving more a buff than supposed to be. Lumi and old Ben are all going before poe and that shouldn't be the case.
So now that leader abilities are being applied on the first round, that means a lot of new characters are now able to be faster than Poe with the right leader. I tried to do the math. Is this right?
Great job with the table! I didn't know Lobot can boost Poggle. I thought he only boosts droids
Also in another post they said they were looking at it because the leader speed seems to be giving more a buff than supposed to be. Lumi and old Ben are all going before poe and that shouldn't be the case.
I saw that too, but I think these stats would still stand... I hope anyway.
I really don't understand how Darth Sidious , the freaking Emperor doesn't have an Empire tag
My guess is Dual Saber Sid is the Clone Wars incarnation, before the Empire, and eventually they will release Emperor Palpatine (the character model is already in the late light side mission) with an Empire tag.
Also, most people have 't noticed how Poe's time meter manipukation was utterlyndestroyed. All those chara that gonright before him are not even 15% into their turn 2 time meters. So Poe effect is that it only affects slower chars.
For example, Poe taunt turn meter reduction affects QGJ in 8 speed only under Eeth. That's all there is to reduce. So QGJ cannot be even less affected by it. If Poe ever lives to taunt and reduce his time meter, QGJ atill goes before him the next turn, with 8 speed points ahead of QGJ.
Acrually, think abouit it: ANY char that now goes before Poe's turn, gets their second turn before Poe gets his second. Since an IG-88 is so close to Poe, this also means that even with taunt, Poe didn't help IG-88 vs ANY of the chars faster than Poe - thise chars never go after IG-88 on the second turn. They will all go first. The TM reduction grants no advantage whatsoever for any char faster than Poe.
The only impact is for chars SLOWER than Poe but Faster than the char that Poe is trying to help. Eg. letting maybe an IG-86 fire before a Luminara...
Welcome to high speed meta on steroids and the utter and complete anihilation of the only working tank in the game for competitive arena.
So now that leader abilities are being applied on the first round, that means a lot of new characters are now able to be faster than Poe with the right leader. I tried to do the math. Is this right?
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I have read that they do if they are in the leader position.. Still I have also read that Poe is OP and well, you know..
(I really think they do)
I have qgj as lead and he goes first every time.
Also in another post they said they were looking at it because the leader speed seems to be giving more a buff than supposed to be. Lumi and old Ben are all going before poe and that shouldn't be the case.
Shoot my bad, he would be 135. Between FOO and Datcha.
Great job with the table! I didn't know Lobot can boost Poggle. I thought he only boosts droids
I saw that too, but I think these stats would still stand... I hope anyway.
Also, I believe Lobot can get to level 7 leader ability at level 70 which adds 25 speed to droids. Can anyone confirm this?
Well, this is kind of encouraging, anyway. Poe can be beat with a lot of different combos I feel like.
I think their is an emperor Palpatine character coming eventually. You fight him as a boss in light side 7.
My guess is Dual Saber Sid is the Clone Wars incarnation, before the Empire, and eventually they will release Emperor Palpatine (the character model is already in the late light side mission) with an Empire tag.
Any way to let us grab a copy of this... Perhaps a link to Google sheets?
Because this Darth Sidious is from the Clone Wars, before he was an emperor
For example, Poe taunt turn meter reduction affects QGJ in 8 speed only under Eeth. That's all there is to reduce. So QGJ cannot be even less affected by it. If Poe ever lives to taunt and reduce his time meter, QGJ atill goes before him the next turn, with 8 speed points ahead of QGJ.
Acrually, think abouit it: ANY char that now goes before Poe's turn, gets their second turn before Poe gets his second. Since an IG-88 is so close to Poe, this also means that even with taunt, Poe didn't help IG-88 vs ANY of the chars faster than Poe - thise chars never go after IG-88 on the second turn. They will all go first. The TM reduction grants no advantage whatsoever for any char faster than Poe.
The only impact is for chars SLOWER than Poe but Faster than the char that Poe is trying to help. Eg. letting maybe an IG-86 fire before a Luminara...
Welcome to high speed meta on steroids and the utter and complete anihilation of the only working tank in the game for competitive arena.
Nicely compiled!
Poe is 142 not 143. Otherwise accurate.