Sorry but that is so ***
Take him as first target, the healer always pushes him up. Go first on the heals, your dmg is so slow, because of this ridiculess Obi-Wan skill, that you dont have a chance of winning.
Although your team is in generell much stronger..
Fix that ***
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There's no way after 3 weeks you've faced Ben, analyzed his weaknesses or the team's weaknesses, then went and built a counter for him that was strong, and then tested that counter. This game has a lot of toons that do really different things. There are leaders that have tenacity to allies in their description - Luke is one. That skill blocks neg effects. There are toons that dispel negative effects - Ackbar. There are also toons that block specials - Lumi, Vader, Dooku is great vs. Ben...I would say yes Ben is one of the tougher toons to deal with, especially with the small number of toons most have after 3 weeks, but once you start to get a flow to him and Barris / other healer combos and have the toons to ability block or some other tactic in place, he's manageable. I prefer to ability block / Dooku stun him. Chip away at whatever my kill target is, and then when he's stunned and Barriss turn meter is low, go for the kill on that target unit. Then do that same task on the next target, which becomes easier and quicker as you are now 5 vs. 4.
Please everyone stop saying stuff is OP. This is just going to keep happening as you run in to different challenges that your current roster may not be able to handle. I was waiting for the Ben posts because unlike Dooku and Barriss, he's a legit big time threat. The roster and approach needed for Ben is much greater than Dooku or Barriss. I no longer think he's OP though. When I first faced him I did, but as you see the flow of the battles and learn when to place an ability block or stun and build toons that can execute this approach he's no longer scary. Once ability blocked, Ben is pretty useless - as are many of the Jedi - they are just low damage dealing tanks. HK 47 is another great toon that is farmable with anti-Jedi powers. His special can wreck a Ben / Healer build pretty good.
So instead of coming to rant on the forums about every new toon that people encouner, how about step back, analyze the toon, look at what other toons on the roster can do, and start to put together a gameplan for how to defeat it. All the nerf calls on this forum are ridiculous. This game is well balanced across the overall roster.
Agree and have been saying this myself in the forums and on messaging apps.
Basically, everyone lucky enough to get the guy puts him in their team. That's a sign of imbalance.
Old Ben is certainly powerful, there is no doubt about that. But as has been said, once you start coming up against him, it's time to find counters. Ability blocks, stuns, debuff clears all now become valuable, where as before you were only concerned with damage.
If a team is my level and only has an Old Ben, I can tell you I will win that fight 100% of the time. He becomes truly powerful when he's coupled with certain other characters. Which, in turn means it's not actually him that is OP, but the combination that is OP, and I think that is quite fair.
Also I NEVER attack Ben first. He has an ability that buffs the entire team when he dies.
So yes, old ben is strong, but if you build a team able to kill strong attacker (but weak defense) in one run before lumi or Bariss can heal, you can deal with him.
Or just block his abilities like it was said.
There are plenty of abilities which counter another kind of character, this game is well done, even the characters who can only buy with real money aren't invicible.
Stop complaining and just enjoy the game as it is
At one point i thought dooku was op, but overcame that. Then i thought offee was op and overcame that as well. When the sids started showing up, i was like ****! Overcame it. Then i met old ben, and like the op, I thought this was broken! Overcame it... Now my challenges are actually with the little unknown toons, like the pilots!
Absolutely!
It's not Ben per se that's the toughest bit but the meta when he's paired with particular other toons.
I think I ran across the same Ben, Luke, Lumi, Bariss, Sid team, or another one like it.
My HK-47 suppressed Ben and my Lobot cleared the debuff when he finally got one off, it's about being flexible. I saw Ben In the match toon so chose to bring Lobot, he's not a regular on my teams but a specialist. The HK is a good tank with anti-jedi capabilities so I packed him, the rest of my squad was healers JC and Bariss and my Darth Maul for his crushing AOE attack and quick turnaround on his regular when it's a kill stroke when ability is pumped up.
Formal wear is nice but you don't wear it to the beach, just like there's no one size fits all A-team for every opposing team you face.
I have had my problems with certain situations but never to the point where I could not come up with a counter for it. That is part of the game.
Leia on the other hand, her bug needs to be fixed ( yes I know ea knows about the bug ). A person in my bracket has qgj as leader for the speed buff with Leia and you pretty much lose someone before you even get to your second round of attacks.
The team I faced was 3k power less but it doesn't matter since they basically halve my power for ~3 turns if the fire off.
Bring Lobot or another toon that can clear negative effects from allies.
It super strong add Jin as lead so Ben gets mind trick off and it hilarious fast matches.
I'm not sure how this performs on defense since the AI Is still bad
Get ewok elder and use his heal spell. Boom all negative effects are gone or Asaj or arkbar. Etc
I'll agree with anyone that certain characters are powerful and difficult to beat at times.
But after some analysis and adjustments, Ben, Sid, Barris,Vader, and Maul teams stopped being so formidable, even vs. those at higher levels with purple gear, encounter every day in GW.
I'm hopeful with EA_Jesse post in another thread that Barriss actual heal ability will be adjusted up a little, an 80+% reduction to base was extreme, she wasn't that difficult to beat before the nerf to require that big of an adjustment.
At level 30 I thought Bariss was OP. I lost a few matches but I pulled through.
At level 40 I though Sidious was OP. Etc
Get it? It's a temporary issue. Now Dooku is easy to kill. Bariss (before she got nerfed unnecessarily) was also easy to deal with. Right now Sidious is difficult, if he has a solid team around him and gets a lucky crit to take out a healer then I'm toast. But I'll figure out how to defeat him and then we'll all move onto the next 'OP' character.
Each hero has different strengths and weaknesses. You have to realise that for you, personally, a certain hero may be difficult.
Is Sidious the strongest hero in the game now? Probably. But I still beat him 80% of the time.
No more massive nerfs.
Bye bye Jedi teams
Old Ben is master of Dark Vadar so his ability should be strong
He is a good teamplayer but.......
If you can withstand that 2 turn then he wont be big problem as low dmg output
Any good character to remove debuff? nightsister isnt high dmg enough