Imo he needs a nerf. Before him there was diversity to arena which was fun. Now it's just put a bunch of rebels with CLS and you've made top 20.
Also why can he crit for 32k? Are you actually mad?! What the hell is ROTJ Luke supposed to hit for?
Interested to hear thoughts.
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He's a tough cookie, but I just look at him as a challenge to overcome.
Since arena is dependent upon age of shard, CLS rules the day easily in younger shards but in an older shard especially nov/dec 2015 he's on almost every team in the top 100 which means he's less valuable there and more of a requirement.
Where he really shines is in raids and GW, I believe in 6 months when he's come around again he will still be a top toon but no longer OP because other toons will get boosts from gXII to even out
What makes him the OP meta is the relatively recent flood of rebel and light side love. Wiggs, Chaze, R2, GK, Fulcrum Ashoka, and even classic rebels such as raid Han, Leia, and Old Ben getting some love and/or synergy have really pushed cls (and rebels I general) over the edge. On average, light side characters are much faster than dark side ones, have greater tenacity, better unique abilities, and virtually limitless synergy combinations due to the wide variety of competitive light side toons.
Its why there are almost no dark side teams in the arena now. When the average light side toon can be faster than a dark side toon under a Maul lead, there isn't much chance for dark side to compete. Plus, there is almost no synergy among dark side toons without going faction-specific, and there just isn't enough variety, farmability, or value in doing so.
We need some serious dark side love. For example, give emperor palpatine a unique that says his attacks don't trigger unique abilities from rebels. Give dearth Vader a huge damage and defense boost, and a new ability "force choke" (because, Vader, duh), which removes all protection from the target and gives stagger for two turns. If the target is a rebel, give permanent buff immunity (cannot be dispelled). Make his leader ability include "rebel enemies cannot gain additional turn meter as long as Vader is alive". These changes would slow down the ridiculous rebel assaults, and allow f2p players more flexibility in arena.
He's strong for sure, but no hero is that OP right now; no team is unbeatable.
Okay...so why isn't Vader OP? Nah, it's just lazy game design. CLS is an abomination. Bespin Luke the most powerful in the game is joke and fans of SW should find it ridiculous. It's Bespin Luke, not Jedi Luke or Grand Master Luke. No, it's the whiny kid who was toyed around with by Vader before getting his hand chopped off. Nicely done CG....
This.
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No lightside toon can beat a Sith assassin under Maul lead.
Tarkin & Veers are viable leaders and bring a lot of speed.
Dooku, Sidious, Zam and TFP are among the fastest toons around, TFP being the fastest.
Never encountered a FO team either i guess, cause i wouldn't say they're the slowest around.
Seriously.
I kick myself every day for not getting him, since he indeed is insanely good. Don't expect a nerf, as that would cause an uproar, and I'm sure he was intended to be as good as they made him.
Anyway, the best option for anyone who doesn't have him is to start working on arena teams that are anti-crit, with abilities like stun/daze/stealth and attacks like annihilate and fracture. The two best options are probably:
General Kenobi (L), zBarriss, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn
Rex (L), General Kenobi, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn
CLS can one shot Rex before Kenobi taunts.
Are you running those toons in arena yourself? Seriously. They're maybe faster but except Veers, Tarkin (also not as lead) and Thrawn, DS is out of the game. Top 50 is plenty of this CLS teams with the same toons. CLS, GK, R2, Han + 1. Boring ...
What the duck is wrong in making CLS powerful, him being legendary.
He deserves it... Period.
Check this out:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/131571/new-jedi-order-wants-you-37-s-in-tb-95m-gp#latest
You are correct, assassin under maul is crazy fast on turn 1, but I stand by my assessment. Outside of the 20% tm boost turn 1 though, speed is at best on par with the likes of r2, Leia, etc.
Tarkin and veers are not viable in the top 100 of my arena as leads, and dooku is only useful under a dn lead. I haven't seen a sidious in forever, and zam has never been a presence.
You can make a ds team as fast as any team, same as a Jedi team under qgj, but it just isn't viable. Rebel counterattacks and 30k crits just can't be matched. Nobody on the dark side hits that hard consistently, and those that do are glass.
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As long as i can get Top 5/10 every day i will not use CLS although i have him almost Gear 12.
Like GK, he is not needet to stay at high rank in the arena but he makes it a lot easyer. Its like Light Side Toons are beeing corruptet by the dark side.
Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?" Yoda: "No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive."
Yes he is strong but once he gets stunned he's there for the taking