If you are tired of The Pit, then just don't play i, or do a Zero posting(takes 5 seconds), why kill the game for upcoming players?
The Pit is for low level players and a lot of them enjoys it, like we did once
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I wonder why they move interesting threads to unknown sub-forums and keep pointless ones in General.
In any case, no. It is a bad suggestion that doesn't change the game in a positive way. Adding a new Tier would be cool, but why remove it? Seems so unnecessary and illogical that makes me think this is a troll thread.
Are you all actually so stuck up that you disagree with a new raid that would replace a raid that we have done hundreds of times. And make it a monthly event with good rewards and not removing it from the game... makes no sense.
I wonder why they move interesting threads to unknown sub-forums and keep pointless ones in General.
In any case, no. It is a bad suggestion that doesn't change the game in a positive way. Adding a new Tier would be cool, but why remove it? Seems so unnecessary and illogical that makes me think this is a troll thread.
Dude can you read? I didn't say remove it, I said make it an event once a month and bring a new raid in it's place with the same rewards
Nobody has a problem with a new raid or a tougher version of the Pit raid. We don't agree with eliminating the old raid completely as a weekly event. Once a month doesn't cut it.
If you are tired of The Pit, then just don't play i, or do a Zero posting(takes 5 seconds), why kill the game for upcoming players?
The Pit is for low level players and a lot of them enjoys it, like we did once
You said it, "we did once". Which means we don't enjoy it any more but we need the rewards just as much.
How about instead of removing a critical part of growth for new players. You just make a T8 thats meant for G11+? And to keep it from being a grind you can either halve the turn meter removal effects on the boss or make them immune to meter removal all together for this tier? Allows for newer players to keep the benefits of organizing a raid toghter, getting gear, and Han shards. And allow older players to have a new challenge for better rewards? Say for this T8 replace Han shards with zeta mats (Though not the same number)
Nobody has a problem with a new raid or a tougher version of the Pit raid. We don't agree with eliminating the old raid completely as a weekly event. Once a month doesn't cut it.
BUT I NEVER SAID ELIMINATE IT. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST? I SAID MAKE IT AN EVENT
How about instead of removing a critical part of growth for new players. You just make a T8 thats meant for G11+? And to keep it from being a grind you can either halve the turn meter removal effects on the boss or make them immune to meter removal all together for this tier? Allows for newer players to keep the benefits of organizing a raid toghter, getting gear, and Han shards. And allow older players to have a new challenge for better rewards? Say for this T8 replace Han shards with zeta mats (Though not the same number)
How is a brand new raid not gonna help new players grow or enjoy it? And still be able to do rancor once a month
No. This thread comes up every now and then but it always feels selfish when it does.
The Rancor raid is one step in the process for EVERY player.
If there's no point then don't do it but there would be a lot of players/guilds who still benefit from it and why should they miss out on it because longtime players see "no point"?
Nobody has a problem with a new raid or a tougher version of the Pit raid. We don't agree with eliminating the old raid completely as a weekly event. Once a month doesn't cut it.
BUT I NEVER SAID ELIMINATE IT. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST? I SAID MAKE IT AN EVENT
Nup don't like it.
You're still removing a rung for newer players that would create a large jump to get to the next level.
This would hurt retention which would then hurt game longivity.
Nobody has a problem with a new raid or a tougher version of the Pit raid. We don't agree with eliminating the old raid completely as a weekly event. Once a month doesn't cut it.
BUT I NEVER SAID ELIMINATE IT. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST? I SAID MAKE IT AN EVENT
Nup don't like it.
You're still removing a rung for newer players that would create a large jump to get to the next level.
This would hurt retention which would then hurt game longivity.
So......no.
You must either not read or purposely ignore messages. I said bring a new raid to take it's place. Same rewards, same raid tickets, same gear requirements only different mechanics and theme
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
And if a new raid was introduced to REPLACE the rancor and what the rancor provides for players then it again would be pointless because anyone who's past the rancor stage of the game will be able to solo the new raid because they'll have to tune it for players that are grinding at that stage gear wise.
How about instead of removing a critical part of growth for new players. You just make a T8 thats meant for G11+? And to keep it from being a grind you can either halve the turn meter removal effects on the boss or make them immune to meter removal all together for this tier? Allows for newer players to keep the benefits of organizing a raid toghter, getting gear, and Han shards. And allow older players to have a new challenge for better rewards? Say for this T8 replace Han shards with zeta mats (Though not the same number)
How is a brand new raid not gonna help new players grow or enjoy it? And still be able to do rancor once a month
Setting the rancor the A once a month is pointless, whole load of pointless work for devs trashinf a raid and making a new one just for the super experienced, and the rancor is fine as is for new players
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Face it @cadwane your idea is , well, not really a good one. As pointed out many times, removing the rancor and turning it into a once a month event is , well, slightly poorly thought out. Since you are OBVIOUSLY a highly skilled and developed player, your attention should be on Haat , or the LS and DS TB, those are where end game players focus their attention nowadays.
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
How about instead of removing a critical part of growth for new players. You just make a T8 thats meant for G11+? And to keep it from being a grind you can either halve the turn meter removal effects on the boss or make them immune to meter removal all together for this tier? Allows for newer players to keep the benefits of organizing a raid toghter, getting gear, and Han shards. And allow older players to have a new challenge for better rewards? Say for this T8 replace Han shards with zeta mats (Though not the same number)
How is a brand new raid not gonna help new players grow or enjoy it? And still be able to do rancor once a month
Setting the rancor the A once a month is pointless, whole load of pointless work for devs trashinf a raid and making a new one just for the super experienced, and the rancor is fine as is for new players
There are far more current players than new players. What about them?
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Easier to obtain nowadays? What are you talking about? Hes only been possible to unlock literally once in this game and his second turn is only just coming at the end of the month. R2 ? Thrawn? None of these characters are easy to obtain
Face it @cadwane your idea is , well, not really a good one. As pointed out many times, removing the rancor and turning it into a once a month event is , well, slightly poorly thought out. Since you are OBVIOUSLY a highly skilled and developed player, your attention should be on Haat , or the LS and DS TB, those are where end game players focus their attention nowadays.
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
So I'm assuming you enjoy every 2 days setting cls and han on auto and walking away for 10 minutes and that's it. Instead of a new raid?
Nobody has a problem with a new raid or a tougher version of the Pit raid. We don't agree with eliminating the old raid completely as a weekly event. Once a month doesn't cut it.
BUT I NEVER SAID ELIMINATE IT. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST? I SAID MAKE IT AN EVENT
Nup don't like it.
You're still removing a rung for newer players that would create a large jump to get to the next level.
This would hurt retention which would then hurt game longivity.
So......no.
You must either not read or purposely ignore messages. I said bring a new raid to take it's place. Same rewards, same raid tickets, same gear requirements only different mechanics and theme
My reading is fine thanks. My opinion hasn't changed.
Changing game mechanics and theme is fine for what? A couple of raids and then you're bored again?
For a new raid to be worthwhile it needs to provide a challenge so the difficulty has to increase. So not only would you be removing a rung from the ladder you'd be putting it higher and asking newer players to jump the gap.
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Easier to obtain nowadays? What are you talking about? Hes only been possible to unlock literally once in this game and his second turn is only just coming at the end of the month. R2 ? Thrawn? None of these characters are easy to obtain
How long do you think it takes a brand new player to assemble a rancor solo squad and be able to gear and mod them for it without CLS? Probably longer than just getting CLS all along
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Easier to obtain nowadays? What are you talking about? Hes only been possible to unlock literally once in this game and his second turn is only just coming at the end of the month. R2 ? Thrawn? None of these characters are easy to obtain
How long do you think it takes a brand new player to assemble a rancor solo squad and be able to gear and mod them for it without CLS? Probably longer than just getting CLS all along
I would disagree. CLS needs, as you mentioned the empire (geared and leveled)for R2 and then the other 4 (easy to farm). So that's 10 characters compared to 5 for a 'rancor solo squad'. So already CLS takes longer.
Then add on the fact that it could be another 4, 5, 6!? Months before his return. Even less than 4 months is longer then the 0 time a player would have to wait to make their solo squad
Surely if you're going to make a brand new raid you would put at the latest stage of the game not in the middle offering G8 and 9 pieces?
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Easier to obtain nowadays? What are you talking about? Hes only been possible to unlock literally once in this game and his second turn is only just coming at the end of the month. R2 ? Thrawn? None of these characters are easy to obtain
How long do you think it takes a brand new player to assemble a rancor solo squad and be able to gear and mod them for it without CLS? Probably longer than just getting CLS all along
I would disagree. CLS needs, as you mentioned the empire (geared and leveled)for R2 and then the other 4 (easy to farm). So that's 10 characters compared to 5 for a 'rancor solo squad'. So already CLS takes longer.
Then add on the fact that it could be another 4, 5, 6!? Months before his return. Even less than 4 months is longer then the 0 time a player would have to wait to make their solo squad
Once you are on the path to R2 you basically have all the ingredients for a rancor solo. You can have Darth Vader, TFP, Tarkin, and then throw in Rex and Jyn or generally most teams can do the job once you have zader and tfp.
Face it @cadwane your idea is , well, not really a good one. As pointed out many times, removing the rancor and turning it into a once a month event is , well, slightly poorly thought out. Since you are OBVIOUSLY a highly skilled and developed player, your attention should be on Haat , or the LS and DS TB, those are where end game players focus their attention nowadays.
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
So I'm assuming you enjoy every 2 days setting cls and han on auto and walking away for 10 minutes and that's it. Instead of a new raid?
Assume what you will, if you wish to be technical, I zero tag half the Rancors we run, and the other half I solo, and frankly whether I use my empire sans CLS , or a CLS comp, does not make one bit of difference.
Your complaint over a raid that was designed to be tackled several level caps ago and several more gear caps ago is frankly silly. Once you have developed your roster, in WHICHEVER fashion to be able to handle the rancor with ease, that should be considered an accomplishment, however you seem to portray it as a detriment, I think you have forgotten that the rancor is NOT A END GAME RAID. Of course lol, as I have seen mentioned elsewhere, if it's too easy and your bored, why don't you start a new account and then everything will be fun and challenging again.
Oh and furthermore, leave the now to be considered early Midgame players raid alone, and figure out a useful new endgame raid to be the next challenge. By your logic regarding rancor, the tank raid both Naat and Haat are in similar places, so we might as well scrap the tank for a new raid too then
Face it @cadwane your idea is , well, not really a good one. As pointed out many times, removing the rancor and turning it into a once a month event is , well, slightly poorly thought out. Since you are OBVIOUSLY a highly skilled and developed player, your attention should be on Haat , or the LS and DS TB, those are where end game players focus their attention nowadays.
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
So I'm assuming you enjoy every 2 days setting cls and han on auto and walking away for 10 minutes and that's it. Instead of a new raid?
Assume what you will, if you wish to be technical, I zero tag half the Rancors we run, and the other half I solo, and frankly whether I use my empire sans CLS , or a CLS comp, does not make one bit of difference.
Your complaint over a raid that was designed to be tackled several level caps ago and several more gear caps ago is frankly silly. Once you have developed your roster, in WHICHEVER fashion to be able to handle the rancor with ease, that should be considered an accomplishment, however you seem to portray it as a detriment, I think you have forgotten that the rancor is NOT A END GAME RAID. Of course lol, as I have seen mentioned elsewhere, if it's too easy and your bored, why don't you start a new account and then everything will be fun and challenging again.
That's not an argument, "just start a new account". If rancor wasn't end game raid then it wouldn't pay end game gear and end game currency.
Rancor won't be gone for good, it will still remain something that players need to work on
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The Pit is for low level players and a lot of them enjoys it, like we did once
In any case, no. It is a bad suggestion that doesn't change the game in a positive way. Adding a new Tier would be cool, but why remove it? Seems so unnecessary and illogical that makes me think this is a troll thread.
You said it, "we did once". Which means we don't enjoy it any more but we need the rewards just as much.
BUT I NEVER SAID ELIMINATE IT. CAN'T YOU READ MY POST? I SAID MAKE IT AN EVENT
How is a brand new raid not gonna help new players grow or enjoy it? And still be able to do rancor once a month
This
Nup don't like it.
You're still removing a rung for newer players that would create a large jump to get to the next level.
This would hurt retention which would then hurt game longivity.
So......no.
You must either not read or purposely ignore messages. I said bring a new raid to take it's place. Same rewards, same raid tickets, same gear requirements only different mechanics and theme
Rancor,→HAAT, ↣TB/TW, →new raid
Not
New raid →HAAT →TB/TW →rancor
And if a new raid was introduced to REPLACE the rancor and what the rancor provides for players then it again would be pointless because anyone who's past the rancor stage of the game will be able to solo the new raid because they'll have to tune it for players that are grinding at that stage gear wise.
Just a terrible idea
All you need for rancor is CLS nowadays and he is easier to obtain than most toons. You don't have to optimize for rancor. If you farm empire for r2 you basically have a rancor team done. Zader, Thrawn, TFP, Tarkin, you throw a 5th and you are gold
Removing a guild event earned via raid tickets, which has been an integral part of every players road from level one to level 85, makes about as much sense and walking off a cliff without a parachute or bungee cord.
There are far more current players than new players. What about them?
Easier to obtain nowadays? What are you talking about? Hes only been possible to unlock literally once in this game and his second turn is only just coming at the end of the month. R2 ? Thrawn? None of these characters are easy to obtain
So I'm assuming you enjoy every 2 days setting cls and han on auto and walking away for 10 minutes and that's it. Instead of a new raid?
My reading is fine thanks. My opinion hasn't changed.
Changing game mechanics and theme is fine for what? A couple of raids and then you're bored again?
For a new raid to be worthwhile it needs to provide a challenge so the difficulty has to increase. So not only would you be removing a rung from the ladder you'd be putting it higher and asking newer players to jump the gap.
Bad for retention. Bad for longevity.
So.....no.
How long do you think it takes a brand new player to assemble a rancor solo squad and be able to gear and mod them for it without CLS? Probably longer than just getting CLS all along
I would disagree. CLS needs, as you mentioned the empire (geared and leveled)for R2 and then the other 4 (easy to farm). So that's 10 characters compared to 5 for a 'rancor solo squad'. So already CLS takes longer.
Then add on the fact that it could be another 4, 5, 6!? Months before his return. Even less than 4 months is longer then the 0 time a player would have to wait to make their solo squad
Once you are on the path to R2 you basically have all the ingredients for a rancor solo. You can have Darth Vader, TFP, Tarkin, and then throw in Rex and Jyn or generally most teams can do the job once you have zader and tfp.
Assume what you will, if you wish to be technical, I zero tag half the Rancors we run, and the other half I solo, and frankly whether I use my empire sans CLS , or a CLS comp, does not make one bit of difference.
Your complaint over a raid that was designed to be tackled several level caps ago and several more gear caps ago is frankly silly. Once you have developed your roster, in WHICHEVER fashion to be able to handle the rancor with ease, that should be considered an accomplishment, however you seem to portray it as a detriment, I think you have forgotten that the rancor is NOT A END GAME RAID. Of course lol, as I have seen mentioned elsewhere, if it's too easy and your bored, why don't you start a new account and then everything will be fun and challenging again.
That's not an argument, "just start a new account". If rancor wasn't end game raid then it wouldn't pay end game gear and end game currency.
Rancor won't be gone for good, it will still remain something that players need to work on
Well it is a bad idea, hats off to him for standing his ground though.. I guess?