Oh look, no zetas in today’s fleet ability mat double drops...

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  • Looooki
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    Hmmm I think I'm lucky... 8 had 4 zeta mats
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    same. 2x0 = 0

    But there are 2 more days of the double drops for ship challenges still so chill
  • Monel
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    TVF wrote: »
    @Kyno if you can make a 2 x 0 = 0 zeta megathread, for the 8,000 threads that are going to be hitting over the next day, I'll do my very best not to make a single post in it.

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  • kieltrx
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    Well I got 6 zetas altogether which is nice.
  • Dk_rek
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    Nadebotfm wrote: »
    same. 2x0 = 0

    But there are 2 more days of the double drops for ship challenges still so chill

    2X0X6 = 0
    kieltrx wrote: »
    Well I got 6 zetas altogether which is nice.

    That's it.... rub it in more.. sure that will make people chill lol

    since people asking kyno to make a megathread maybe we could get a Brag post containment thread that would clean it up as well
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    How about 0 zetas and 0 omegas... surely I can complain a little right?
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    Kokie wrote: »
    Congratulations! The one millionth post of how unfair drops are. Let me grab my popcorn and get settled in. This will be a fun ride😁

    They aren’t complaining about the typical bad drop rates. They are complaining that if they had a GA they had a better chance at getting better rewards from skill instead of that their normal “hard work” goes into a probability pool as opposed to getting what they could have gotten in GA.
  • kalidor
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    I got 3 zetas on Sunday and 3 on Monday. I have a bad feeling about tomorrow...

    Edit: got the same, doubled. 6zetas and 2 omegas. I gotta run to buy a lottery ticket...
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  • Pjfp
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    Carrie never said it was resolved, she said it SHOULD be that way
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    Give everyone 6 Zeta mats during the month in an update as if everyone got first and leave the chance of getting more alone.
  • TVF
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    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    Oh cool now we are gonna get a bunch of threads complaining about yet something else she never said.
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  • Ultra
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    TVF wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    Oh cool now we are gonna get a bunch of threads complaining about yet something else she never said.
    Maybe she doesn't know 2x0 = 0?
  • YaeVizsla
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    How about 0 zetas and 0 omegas... surely I can complain a little right?
    In your case, you may lament your poor fortune. But you had a fair roll, same as everyone else, and may not blame CG for the randomness, nor claim it is unfair. Everyone gets the same roll.
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    YaeVizsla wrote: »
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    How about 0 zetas and 0 omegas... surely I can complain a little right?
    In your case, you may lament your poor fortune. But you had a fair roll, same as everyone else, and may not blame CG for the randomness, nor claim it is unfair. Everyone gets the same roll.

    I agree, I do agree with the premise though that grand arena make good of zeta rewards (unless you finish last and get none) is a bit different to “let’s see how the dice rolls” method
  • jhbuchholz
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    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...
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    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...

    Read the quote again...
    I think it was ships **had um a chance** of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling.

    Had a chance - past tense. She goes on to say she isn't 100% sure it's was "fixed" but she absolutely said that we don't get zeros, that was in the past.
  • jhbuchholz
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    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...

    Read the quote again...
    I think it was ships **had um a chance** of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling.

    Had a chance - past tense. She goes on to say she isn't 100% sure it's was "fixed" but she absolutely said that we don't get zeros, that was in the past.

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    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...

    Read the quote again...
    I think it was ships **had um a chance** of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling.

    Had a chance - past tense. She goes on to say she isn't 100% sure it's was "fixed" but she absolutely said that we don't get zeros, that was in the past.

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    Yeah, sucks that English words have meaning.
  • TVF
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    It's amazing any of them ever say a word.
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  • jhbuchholz
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    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...

    Read the quote again...
    I think it was ships **had um a chance** of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling.

    Had a chance - past tense. She goes on to say she isn't 100% sure it's was "fixed" but she absolutely said that we don't get zeros, that was in the past.

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    Yeah, sucks that English words have meaning.

    They do. I don't think your grasping them though. She's clearly giving examples and not making concrete statements. There would have been an announcement and the forums would have rejoiced.

    What she said, translated:
    When I started I noticed things like the ships ability challenge that gave zero to two zetas and half the time gave zero. Getting zero is a terrible feeling so we've been changing that. I don't know if we've changed 100% of those situations but we're working on it.

    There past tense referred to when she started, not the drop rates on the challenge.
  • Syce
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    I don't care either way as it's just a game. I just don't understand how so many come to the defense of a FOR PROFIT COMPANY known to sell their first born for extra profit and also have a PATENT ON TECHNOLOGY THAT MANIPULATES "RNG".

    What has EA done for you that they have earned your trust? What incentive do they have to NOT exploit their player base and make more money? The blind support this game gets just baffles me.
  • SemiGod
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    Palanthian wrote: »
    Never saw that coming.

    Zero x2 = zero. Thanks guys, that really makes up for no GAs this month.

    /s

    RnG say it with me,

    RANDOM ... NUMBER ... GENERATED

    For example if something has a 20% drop rate. There is a 80% no drop rate.

    :/
  • CCyrilS
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    Seriously, we need at LEAST 4x0 to make it fair.
  • jhbuchholz
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    Syce wrote: »
    I don't care either way as it's just a game. I just don't understand how so many come to the defense of a FOR PROFIT COMPANY known to sell their first born for extra profit and also have a PATENT ON TECHNOLOGY THAT MANIPULATES "RNG".

    What has EA done for you that they have earned your trust? What incentive do they have to NOT exploit their player base and make more money? The blind support this game gets just baffles me.

    What does CG need to do to gain your trust? They've said they don't do this. You clearly don't believe them. Would you believe them if they published odds? If so, why? Would you believe them if they shared source code? If so, why?
  • EgoSlayer
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    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    jhbuchholz wrote: »
    EgoSlayer wrote: »
    According to Carrie on the Escape Pod...Cast - we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore... (~1:50:30 mark in the audio)

    The actual quote (which does not say that we don't get zeros on the zeta mats fleet challenge anymore) for posterity:
    One of the things I was so frustrated about when I started was, I think it was ships had um a chance of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling. I'm going to say that not for sure knowing one hundred precent if we got rid of all those but it's like let's just at least start ... I don't care if it's zero to two, just give everybody one. Don't do zero to two. Because zero feels like crap. Um, and so, for us it is about making sure things are clear and people feel good ...

    Read the quote again...
    I think it was ships **had um a chance** of getting a zeta was zero to two and it was like half the time it was zero and it was like that's a terrible feeling.

    Had a chance - past tense. She goes on to say she isn't 100% sure it's was "fixed" but she absolutely said that we don't get zeros, that was in the past.

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    Yeah, sucks that English words have meaning.

    They do. I don't think your grasping them though. She's clearly giving examples and not making concrete statements. There would have been an announcement and the forums would have rejoiced.

    What she said, translated:
    When I started I noticed things like the ships ability challenge that gave zero to two zetas and half the time gave zero. Getting zero is a terrible feeling so we've been changing that. I don't know if we've changed 100% of those situations but we're working on it.

    There past tense referred to when she started, not the drop rates on the challenge.

    Look, you can white knight or argue semantics all you want. Giving CG the benefit of the doubt that the double drops were supposed to be an offset of the missing GA rewards, it was based on a false understanding of the drop rates. Carrie thought that every player would be getting at least 3 extra zeta mats by giving double rewards for ship challenges (first time we've got double drops here that I can recall) because she was under the mistaken impression that it didn't reward zeros anymore. I'm sure she is well aware that isn't true now, but when she green lit the double drops for ship challenges that was her understanding of the drop rates, and not the about 50% chance of zero drops (that it was, again past tense) she mentioned in that same quote. For the record, it's still about 50%, 48.28% chance of a zero based on my tracking of 377 challenges. So there is the still very high chance that many players will receive zero or one zeta mat with the double drops - which is not compensation for the missing GA rewards.
  • Lanbo
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    Just tried mine. Same results. Absolutely no zetas. Shafted as usual.
  • Ultra
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    SemiGod wrote: »
    Palanthian wrote: »
    Never saw that coming.

    Zero x2 = zero. Thanks guys, that really makes up for no GAs this month.

    /s

    RnG say it with me,

    RANDOM ... NUMBER ... GENERATED

    For example if something has a 20% drop rate. There is a 80% no drop rate.

    :/
    why is the n lowercase?
  • TVF
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    Because it's actually RANDOM ... nUMBER ... GENERATED
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  • Whatelse73
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    But CG_Carrie said during her interview on the Escape Podcast that we should be getting "at least" 1 zeta. So, that's quite peculiar....
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