Lightspeed bundles .. serving who?
December 17, 2023 11:16AM
edited December 2023
Who do these serve? Alienate existing fanbase and limited assistance to new players. Having made a purchase this is my reflection. They essentially suck the soul and fun out of the game.
It would make more sense to just offer a GL for 49.99. Pick one with the lowest usage stats such as Ray.
Having invested time upgrading my boundty hunters to relic 7 , seeing 3 characters on offer for 9 99 at relic 5 leaves a nasty taste in my mouth!!!
My main reflection is this .. what's the point in logging in daily, buying crystals, now.
Will new players whom purchase speed bundles stay when you cut out the grind and achievement . I doubt it and sure initial increases in purchases will be offset by significant drops in crystal and other pack purchases.
So who do they really serve.... Long term. My solution is above , a Gl at 49.99.
It would make more sense to just offer a GL for 49.99. Pick one with the lowest usage stats such as Ray.
Having invested time upgrading my boundty hunters to relic 7 , seeing 3 characters on offer for 9 99 at relic 5 leaves a nasty taste in my mouth!!!
My main reflection is this .. what's the point in logging in daily, buying crystals, now.
Will new players whom purchase speed bundles stay when you cut out the grind and achievement . I doubt it and sure initial increases in purchases will be offset by significant drops in crystal and other pack purchases.
So who do they really serve.... Long term. My solution is above , a Gl at 49.99.
Post edited by Martyboy on
2
Replies
I’m an existing fan base. They don’t alienate me.
My account’s about 1 year 4 months old, so I’m also a relatively new player. I consider this to be a massive assistance, not a limited one.
I’ve not found this sucks the soul out of the game. I think these provide great catch up opportunities. That said, I’m still bottlenecked by zetas and mods. There’s still plenty for me to do.
I’m not sure how you can make the claim these suck the soul out of the game, but then suggest to just offer GL’s for cost instead of offering packs that expedite the unlock process, but still require we participate in the GL unlock journey. Flagrant logical contradiction there.
It’s “Rey”.
Yes, it’s a valid complaint if you sunk time into gearing characters only for a bundle to be released shortly after that provides relics for those characters. The first generation of light speed bundles were unprecedented and it would’ve been nice if CG had given players a heads up beforehand, but we’re quite aware of these now and have the opportunity to make roster decisions with light speed bundles as a present and future consideration.
The “point” of logging in daily and/or buying crystals is wholly unaffected by the existence of the light speed bundles.
Yes, new players will stay. Light speed bundles give them the opportunity to bridge the gap between themselves and existing players. If anything, these packs give them more incentive to stay.
Perhaps the light speed bundles will result in less purchases of other packs. I’d argue this is a good thing, as CG is providing better value per dollar spent. Can’t conceive why this would be a problem for anyone.
They “serve” anyone who chooses to purchase them, both long and short term.
I’m debating you because I disagree with just about everything in your post. I’m not “beating down debat(ing)” you. If your opinion has merit, you’re free to defend it.
Since you’ve edited your post to include this, I’ll reply again.
If an existing account has 7 million GP and a new level 85 account has, say, 1 million GP, and a pack becomes available that boosts the 1 mil GP account 500,000 GP, that 1 mil GP account is 500,000 GP closer to the 7 million GP account.
Literally by definition, the usage of “bridged” is correct. There’s much more nuance involved in the game, but suggesting that the packs aren’t a bridge is a fundamental misunderstanding of the terminology.
Bud, if you’re going to edit an existing post to insert a new thought, just add a new comment.
I’m sorry, but some of the things you say are just factually incorrect. “Bland” is an opinion, and I don’t even really know how it applies here.
The packs make a significant difference to new players. I’m a new player. Thanks to these packs, I was able to insert Rey into my roster planning. Thanks to these packs, I’ll be able to progress on JMLS as soon as I’ve finished farming Rey’s ultimate.
The BAM pack has a clear purpose. The game has been around for a while and it’s now troublesome to select requirements for new releases which are accessible to all. The new Bokatan will require BAM. So the pack provides an accelerated means for newer players to pick up BAM if they wish to chase the latest character.
They have already accelerated Rey and SLKR to enable players to easily get their first GL. Or indeed those who picked up other GL’s instead too.
So these packs help many players, and so far imo have focused on characters which have been around for a good while. SK was perhaps the most questionable but was priced much higher which off set it a bit.
It's a problem of this kind of games. It's not a matter of "you have to reach level 100 and get the max gear for your character". In this game, faming never ends. We have to farm one character, and another one, and the new one, and now 5 to obtain another one, and so on.
So, these packs help to make the impossible not so impossible.
Agreed but like the original pack offered at 89.99 , surely it's time to offer ONE fully upgraded character e.g starkiller , with more planned releases every 3 months.
and then ONE GL every 16 months.
That brings true balance.
So the starkiller pack which gave all requirements was not enough?
Packs that purchase an individual character, GL, journey guide, or otherwise - perfectly fine.
I uh… alrighty, then. Have a good one 😂
That's not balance. You can't offer new GL every 16 months if you are releasing one or two per year. Rey and Kylo were released more or less at the same time, so it's logic to have their packs with just some weeks delay.
About price, it's another topic and has nothing to do with "who serves". The answer is easy: how many people would spend 89.99? Probably not a lot. But if it costs 10$/12€ people will probably say that it's insane, best offer of history and you sell tons of packs.
Do I want new players to be able to catch up some and enjoy the game more? Yes.
Do I want people who enjoy and get value from these packs to help support the game I love financially? Yes.
Will I ever have to face an opponent in GAC who will beat me because they got a team of R3-5 characters without the mods or Zetas to go with them? Not at all.
TBH I'd have expected some Zeta packs to be sold with these, and no I don't at all mind players paying to skip literal years worth of Zeta farming to get their units up to a playable level where they have the maxed abilities they're meant to in order to function in their teams.
My opinion:
I'm existing fan base and I'm not alienated - do not speak for me, you don't get to voice my opinion.
Also my opinion:
Your solution is not good.
I have spoken.
Also, this game needs catch up mechanics- even if it's pay walled. New players need a way to progress faster so they can fill the ranks of retiring players.
Lastly, please clarify- are you mad others don't have to do a grind you did, or are you mad you did a grind that could've been bought? If it's the former why are you begrudging others advancing their rosters so they can better enjoy the game? If it's the latter, maybe this gives you the ability to focus more on the new hotness without going back to old squads.
Don’t know what “fanbase” you’re talking about that is feeling “alienated” by the packs…
The packs are great value. I'd see that as a positive thing.
Just a thought maybe find and go on this thead and tell these people they are wrong and experienced players are not leaving guids and dropping off the game. FILL YOUR BOOTS
Players come, players go. It was ever thus.
I doubt veteran players are leaving because of these packs. Feel free to show me otherwise.
Yawn. Find the thread. A bit more balanced audience participation be helpful 👍
Not alienated.
I'm happy the packs are here for those who want them.
You don’t find a balanced audience when you have an incorrect opinion. You find a balanced audience when you have a neutral opinion and ask for people to offer their insight.
You’re not doing that. You’re trashing something that is some of the best value for dollar the community has ever seen and your responses to people who tell you as much aren’t anything more than trolling.
Edit: it’s also plainly obvious that your “solution” was entirely arbitrary. Those numbers don’t make any sense. This is why I genuinely can’t tell if you’re trolling or you’re just on the back foot and you’ll throw out anything to be defensive. I’m sorry that you have a bad opinion, but you could take this as an opportunity to hear what people are telling you and why, or you can witlessly shrug off what reasonable people are telling you. Your call.
Regarding OP - it’s fine to have your opinion but definitely seems like you have trouble admitting the merits of other’s arguments against your stance. And yeah, you’re falling back on troll-like behavior. Why not reread some of the great counter-arguments to your stance and actually consider them (I know, unlikely).
I am delighted at these bundles, even though I’m never intending to buy one. Them being there, and providing income for CG by enticing casual spenders with great offers keeps the game running. I’m not concerned about others getting a leg up, because mods, zetas and omicrons still mean that these packs aren’t that much of a massive leap.
Was it frustrating that all of the SLKR reqs dropped for £10? Sure, but with the new gear economy getting all of the SLKR or Rey reqs to g12 at least doesn’t take more than about 3 months anyway. Change is necessary.