Paying for refreshments is a fraud. I've refreshed for 2x50 daily and still have no furnace after 3 weeks. Well played CG/EA, just well played.
Perhaps the person that came up with this needs to hit the crackpipe less.
I've binge spend around $500,- only to get lamed by the last update, the precraft issue and the amazing nerfs they keep pushing through (instead of boosting other chars).
No buyers remorse but if I went F2P I would have had the same outcome.
439-259-888 I have a bad habit of editing my typo's after posting
Personnally I bought 3 furnaces, and let down 2 others ! They seem to appear just when I stack enough crystals to buy it, pretty nice from them !
It's all Randomness... So you can't complain about it guys ... It's just bad luck ... Nothin' they can do about it.
In another ways, you can complain about the Droid caller, nerubian, etc that are not in the shipment... Why just furnace... who knows !
Ive never had a furnace, and I have plenty of people waiting for it. If they would fill my shipments up with furnaces I would buy crystals to get them all
Yup. No furnaces on shipments either for me since they were addded.
Kind of a running joke now. At least I know whenever any of my guildmates or some forumites find some since they think it's funny to tell me about it. And it is!
What I hate most is people claiming there is no problem because they bought 1 or 2 themselves so far. Tell me, since this update went live, are just 2 or 3 furnaces in shipments enough for the time we had to wait for it?
Precrafters were claiming that raids would be the outcome and everybody would be up to speed. Precrafting would get a magical fix but it even takes longer than I first expected.
It's a cashgrab and with every move pointing into this direction, people get more and more upset with good reasons.
439-259-888 I have a bad habit of editing my typo's after posting
Yup. No furnaces on shipments either for me since they were addded.
Kind of a running joke now. At least I know whenever any of my guildmates or some forumites find some since they think it's funny to tell me about it. And it is!
Do you check every shipment ? Every 6 hours i'm having a sneaky eye into the shipment to check about furnances.
Do you do refresh ?
You are one unlucky motherfu***er
Yup. No furnaces on shipments either for me since they were addded.
Kind of a running joke now. At least I know whenever any of my guildmates or some forumites find some since they think it's funny to tell me about it. And it is!
Do you check every shipment ? Every 6 hours i'm having a sneaky eye into the shipment to check about furnances.
Do you do refresh ?
You are one unlucky motherfu***er
I don't refresh everyday, I did twice yesterday though. I check everyone, even the one at night I check when I wake to use the bathroom.
Yup. No furnaces on shipments either for me since they were addded.
Kind of a running joke now. At least I know whenever any of my guildmates or some forumites find some since they think it's funny to tell me about it. And it is!
Do you check every shipment ? Every 6 hours i'm having a sneaky eye into the shipment to check about furnances.
Do you do refresh ?
You are one unlucky motherfu***er
I don't refresh everyday, I did twice yesterday though. I check everyone, even the one at night I check when I wake to use the bathroom.
Edit: I have crafted two furnaces from raid rewards and raid shop or else I would be raging about no furnace in shipments
And did find a full droid caller in my 2nd raid, which is the only full raid piece I found. Which is funny cause that one I was ranked like 22ish and since then I've been top 3 and now #1 last two or three cause of my ewoks on t6.
Real edit lol: oops. I'm tired and hit quote instead of edit. Tired cause it took me awhile to fall back asleep after checking shipments at 5am lol
Growing up we called this pigeon theory (there's probably a real name for this basic psychological phenomenon, but anyway).
Put a pigeon in a cage with a button that dispenses food whenever it is pushed, it will push it only when it wants food. Otherwise, it gets on with its life. But if the button only fires, say, 10% of the time -- then the pigeon will push the button constantly, hungry or not, because: maybe reward. They'll totally drive themselves crazy neurotic and broken pushing tha button.
We're really no different. It's self evident how virtually every aspect of this game is modeled on this fundamental psychological phenomenon. Don't fall for it if you don't want to.
Growing up we called this pigeon theory (there's probably a real name for this basic psychological phenomenon, but anyway).
Put a pigeon in a cage with a button that dispenses food whenever it is pushed, it will push it only when it wants food. Otherwise, it gets on with its life. But if the button only fires, say, 10% of the time -- then the pigeon will push the button constantly, hungry or not, because: maybe reward. They'll totally drive themselves crazy neurotic and broken pushing tha button.
Operant Conditioning, formally defined by B.F. Skinner.
Growing up we called this pigeon theory (there's probably a real name for this basic psychological phenomenon, but anyway).
Put a pigeon in a cage with a button that dispenses food whenever it is pushed, it will push it only when it wants food. Otherwise, it gets on with its life. But if the button only fires, say, 10% of the time -- then the pigeon will push the button constantly, hungry or not, because: maybe reward. They'll totally drive themselves crazy neurotic and broken pushing tha button.
Operant Conditioning, formally defined by B.F. Skinner.
You know this is an intelligent community when somebody drops a B.F. Skinner reference...
Growing up we called this pigeon theory (there's probably a real name for this basic psychological phenomenon, but anyway).
Put a pigeon in a cage with a button that dispenses food whenever it is pushed, it will push it only when it wants food. Otherwise, it gets on with its life. But if the button only fires, say, 10% of the time -- then the pigeon will push the button constantly, hungry or not, because: maybe reward. They'll totally drive themselves crazy neurotic and broken pushing tha button.
We're really no different. It's self evident how virtually every aspect of this game is modeled on this fundamental psychological phenomenon. Don't fall for it if you don't want to.
Yup. It takes some people fifteen years of high level education to understand this little tidbit. They still are the pigeon.
We are dealing with unregulated gambling here, at least in principle. Of course they not only know how to make us spend money, but they are also going to take full advantage those techniques. Simple economics and human psychology, any business would do the same if allowed to.
Many of us knew the odds when we stepped in back in December. My favorite post was some anonymous player who said back then, the only way to win this game is to quit right now. We will always be led like sheep were ever they want to lead us. Don't spend what you can't afford, don't expect fairness, don't expect something for nothing, in fact in this game don't expect something for something. Have fun or quit, play, don't get played.
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Makes me wonder why anyone would buy the packs for Echo and Sun Fac shards when you know you can't get them higher than gear8 in what... 3 months?
Perhaps the person that came up with this needs to hit the crackpipe less.
I've binge spend around $500,- only to get lamed by the last update, the precraft issue and the amazing nerfs they keep pushing through (instead of boosting other chars).
No buyers remorse but if I went F2P I would have had the same outcome.
It's all Randomness... So you can't complain about it guys ... It's just bad luck ... Nothin' they can do about it.
In another ways, you can complain about the Droid caller, nerubian, etc that are not in the shipment... Why just furnace... who knows !
Kind of a running joke now. At least I know whenever any of my guildmates or some forumites find some since they think it's funny to tell me about it. And it is!
+1
Precrafters were claiming that raids would be the outcome and everybody would be up to speed. Precrafting would get a magical fix but it even takes longer than I first expected.
It's a cashgrab and with every move pointing into this direction, people get more and more upset with good reasons.
Do you check every shipment ? Every 6 hours i'm having a sneaky eye into the shipment to check about furnances.
Do you do refresh ?
You are one unlucky motherfu***er
I don't refresh everyday, I did twice yesterday though. I check everyone, even the one at night I check when I wake to use the bathroom.
Edit: I have crafted two furnaces from raid rewards and raid shop or else I would be raging about no furnace in shipments
And did find a full droid caller in my 2nd raid, which is the only full raid piece I found. Which is funny cause that one I was ranked like 22ish and since then I've been top 3 and now #1 last two or three cause of my ewoks on t6.
Real edit lol: oops. I'm tired and hit quote instead of edit. Tired cause it took me awhile to fall back asleep after checking shipments at 5am lol
It's not useless when you reach level 80 and don't want to spend crystals on refreshes for bad RNG
Make Zader Great Again!
Put a pigeon in a cage with a button that dispenses food whenever it is pushed, it will push it only when it wants food. Otherwise, it gets on with its life. But if the button only fires, say, 10% of the time -- then the pigeon will push the button constantly, hungry or not, because: maybe reward. They'll totally drive themselves crazy neurotic and broken pushing tha button.
We're really no different. It's self evident how virtually every aspect of this game is modeled on this fundamental psychological phenomenon. Don't fall for it if you don't want to.
Operant Conditioning, formally defined by B.F. Skinner.
Hey were we in the same class? With Dr. Brazzus?
Its common knowledge for any college freshman having taken Psych 101.
You know this is an intelligent community when somebody drops a B.F. Skinner reference...
Yup. It takes some people fifteen years of high level education to understand this little tidbit. They still are the pigeon.
Many of us knew the odds when we stepped in back in December. My favorite post was some anonymous player who said back then, the only way to win this game is to quit right now. We will always be led like sheep were ever they want to lead us. Don't spend what you can't afford, don't expect fairness, don't expect something for nothing, in fact in this game don't expect something for something. Have fun or quit, play, don't get played.
Always remember that.