As you can see from the mixed responses the x2 events are a mixed bag if you get good RNG during the event it feels good and helps,
But and it's a big but if rng isn't going your way you cant avoid the simple fact 2x0=0
I have had nothing as far as anakin ship shars despite refreshing the node so I do at least 10 hits a day.
It's all just depends what side of the rng fence you are.
I never save or spend during a x2 event as it doesn't change the underlying rng.
As I already said 2x0=0.
1x0=0 as well, so why not take advantage of x2 events? Like you said, the underlying RNG doesn't change.
Yeah but on the 1x0 days, the drop rate isn’t lowered
To be fair I dont think they adjust the drop rates for the x2 event let's face it what was the last thing cg changed that wasn't bugged all to hell including the 3rd run of an event where they didn't need to adjust anything so if they adjusted the drops they would mess that up to no doubt lol
And over my time farming anakin ship I've had many 10 and 0 shard days no different to this weekend
Cg dont hold your x2 back for when your getting good rng same as they dont hold it till your in a dry spot
I've had bad rng during x2 where I did spend and save energy it wasnt any help so I've chosen to not do that again and it played into my advantage this time as in an rng dry spot not to say next time it wont playout the other way
That's why one hoards energy before the event and do the minimum refills during it. The more runs you do in total, the closer you get to average rng=drop rates and your bad luck for a few runs ceases mattering. If you don't care for this rare opportunity, it's fine.
After doing 20 runs and getting zero shards why would I throw more at it at some point you have to know when to walk away from the table especially when gambling not just throw more at in the hope and again when your not getting what your after it's not that special or rare to get the same rates as any normal day.
Not everyone gets the same experience if yours was good then congrats but my experience has not been good in these x2 events your not wrong for your view but same goes for me as I said it just depends on the side you are on
And from other posts in this thread others are also on the 2 different sides
This is not akin to gambling in that, most varieties of gambling would involve super low chances which you hope to hit that slim chance over many others also shooting for it.
On our current drop rates which is rather comparable to flipping a coin with 5 sides, we constantly hit it. There surely is a point to roll more times, exactly 2x more than standard periods. Normal farming sucks, I doubt you refrain from normal farming. 2x sucks half less.
Again 20 and 0 with the x2 that is not half as bad as anything
It's just perspective from your good rng side it have value
But from my view it hasn't been
I have not once said ether side is wrong in fact I have a few times said both are correct it just depends what the outcome has been for you as an individual player
20*0 is very bad on a %20 roll. Still total amount of rolls on games freebies is much more than 20 times and hoarding/refilling gets you a few times that.
Here's putting things on scale:
0 hits on a %20 chance event on 20 tries:
0.011529215046068
0 hits on a %20 chance event on 100 tries:
2.0370359763345E-10
So 20 fails in a row is merely %1, hopefully you are not 1 out 100 people. 100 fails in a row is 1/5 billion, it's very unlikely to happen to any player even though we are legion, millions of players.
Do what you want. Both are choices, one of those choices are way less valid strategically.
It needs improvement. 2X0=0...and the 30% drop rate is not accurate. I have been farming Shock'Ti all week all 5 attempts...no refresh...and I have not received any shred if her in this double drop... As a matter of fact I went 4 days last week with out any drops. First ally I did get 2 the next day and by the week end prior to double drops I believe I accumulated a whole 5 shards. That's less then 20% drop rate. I guess they are waiting to give me all my shards should I finally get her to 7* after perhaps spending money out of frustrating farming. But I'm not gonna do that.and with about only 5-6 toons not at 7* but all 5-6 toons at almost 6* that super awesome shard drop of 1 too the odds are heavy stacked against my favor for picking up one of those. So that would be a waste if $50 in crystals as well. Now if I was garanteed one if the toons not at 7*...then maybe I would get excited. But that would leave a possibility of getting a Rose Tico.....not to thrilled about getting her to 7*.
It needs improvement. 2X0=0...and the 30% drop rate is not accurate.
As far as the bolded, yes it is. It has been proven time and again - during double drops, prior to events, during events, by what CG has stated and what literally hundreds of players and guilds have tracked over SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZES, the drop rate for character shards is and always has been 30-33%. Period. Bad luck over the course of a few days by a player or 3 doesn't prove the contrary.
Ironically, when the tin-foil-hat brigade is asked to actually track their data one of two things happens:
1) They are never heard from again (likely because either they are too lazy to actually track drop rates or, rarely because they do track them - realize the drop rates are actually 30-33% and just move on).
2) They realize the drop rates are actually 30-33% and post that here and apologize.
Please note, #1 os much more common because human nature.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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I'm having great drops for certain items and horrible drop rates for other items/shards.
Right? RNG can be so random sometimes.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
It needs improvement. 2X0=0...and the 30% drop rate is not accurate.
As far as the bolded, yes it is. It has been proven time and again - during double drops, prior to events, during events, by what CG has stated and what literally hundreds of players and guilds have tracked over SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZES, the drop rate for character shards is and always has been 30-33%. Period. Bad luck over the course of a few days by a player or 3 doesn't prove the contrary.
Just not leading up too or during double drops as it is a gimmick to gain capital. When meta toons are sought. I have had plenty of double drops quadruple drops on garbage, training droids, toons already at 7*, insignificant characters. And tons of white/blue gear that no longer serves any purpose and no one wants. Most likely due to thier excess of thousands of same gear themselves.
Maybe it is just bad luck, but wow has it been a looooooong streak. Many years into this game. And the process is very repetitive every time. Makes a person pause and say, " Hmmmm??
I'm willing to bet a paycheck that the number of people with the "bad luck" is significantly higher then someone or 3. But we weren't speaking literally there. We we're being sarcastic. All good!
I'm willing to bet a paycheck that the number of people with the "bad luck" is significantly higher then someone or 3. But we weren't speaking literally there. We we're being sarcastic. All good!
If you're being sarcastic, you mean to say the number of people with bad luck isn't significantly higher than someone or 3?
I'm willing to bet a paycheck that the number of people with the "bad luck" is significantly higher then someone or 3. But we weren't speaking literally there. We we're being sarcastic. All good!
If you're being sarcastic, you mean to say the number of people with bad luck isn't significantly higher than someone or 3?
You believe that only up too 3 are affected. Change your name too jester.. because brother you are 1 funny dude.
I'm willing to bet a paycheck that the number of people with the "bad luck" is significantly higher then someone or 3. But we weren't speaking literally there. We we're being sarcastic. All good!
If you're being sarcastic, you mean to say the number of people with bad luck isn't significantly higher than someone or 3?
You believe that only up too 3 are affected. Change your name too jester.. because brother you are 1 funny dude.
That's right, i believe 3 players or less had bad RNG during double drops. Now that's sarcasme.
It needs improvement. 2X0=0...and the 30% drop rate is not accurate.
As far as the bolded, yes it is. It has been proven time and again - during double drops, prior to events, during events, by what CG has stated and what literally hundreds of players and guilds have tracked over SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZES, the drop rate for character shards is and always has been 30-33%. Period. Bad luck over the course of a few days by a player or 3 doesn't prove the contrary.
Just not leading up too or during double drops as it is a gimmick to gain capital. When meta toons are sought. I have had plenty of double drops quadruple drops on garbage, training droids, toons already at 7*, insignificant characters. And tons of white/blue gear that no longer serves any purpose and no one wants. Most likely due to thier excess of thousands of same gear themselves.
Maybe it is just bad luck, but wow has it been a looooooong streak. Many years into this game. And the process is very repetitive every time. Makes a person pause and say, " Hmmmm??
Data please. Oh, and Google, "confirmation bias" and its remedy while you're at it.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Good idea. Lets refer this to CG maybe they held all 3-4 years worth of my personal game data. Other wise this request only serves as an attempt to light another fire not needed or helpful. For now let's remember the thread title shall we.
Good idea. Lets refer this to CG maybe they held all 3-4 years worth of my personal game data. Other wise this request only serves as an attempt to light another fire not needed or helpful. For now let's remember the thread title shall we.
So your "thoughts" are baseless conspiracy theories, despite large amounts of hard data collected over 4 years from numerous players and guilds that shows the contrary? And the fact that CG has clearly stated (and on numerous occasions) that they don't change drop rates? Okay, I guess. You are entitled to your opinion - just not your own set of facts. Until you actually track the data and honestly present it, then you'll have to forgive those of us whose "thoughts" are based in the factual world of numerous others who have diligently done so.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Good idea. Lets refer this to CG maybe they held all 3-4 years worth of my personal game data. Other wise this request only serves as an attempt to light another fire not needed or helpful. For now let's remember the thread title shall we.
So your "thoughts" are baseless conspiracy theories, despite large amounts of hard data collected over 4 years from numerous players and guilds that shows the contrary? And the fact that CG has clearly stated (and on numerous occasions) that they don't change drop rates? Okay, I guess. You are entitled to your opinion - just not your own set of facts. Until you actually track the data and honestly present it, then you'll have to forgive those of us whose "thoughts" are based in the factual world of numerous others who have diligently done so.
Your obviously wanting a fight. Your entire statement is incorrect. I know what experiences I have with this game is. To ask for raw data that you know cannot be given spanning several years and if possible will take far longer then this event will last or this thread will live, in this game shows your back peddleing and you have nothing left to fight with. Or I am actually on too something due to various and multiple double drop events and the current event that I am fresh aware as it was just few days ago. Can you deny that that happened. Can you sit and say I was actually wrong. And if so where is your data. 4 days no drops...full 5 attempts, ending with less then 30% shard drop and then double drops continue to reaffirm the less then 30%. Spanning more then a week almost 10 days worth of energy and 100% attempts. So try to shut me down...your wrong and your badgering me a community member gives me credence. As if any community member can compile, stock, And maintain years worth of data in anticipation of just this type of event to prove to you who may or may not be a Dev so as to satisfy your thirst for a fight. Just because I didn't video tape and or screen shot every action the last 10 days in no way defaults me to be wrong. Your offense stance against me proves your either a Dev hiding behind a player alt in order to debunk your actions. Sort of hand in the cookie jar cought. Or your just another player looking to fight in which your wasting my time in what was my thoughts as asked in a thread and I shared my experience and opinion. Which was pure and true and remains so.
Good idea. Lets refer this to CG maybe they held all 3-4 years worth of my personal game data. Other wise this request only serves as an attempt to light another fire not needed or helpful. For now let's remember the thread title shall we.
So your "thoughts" are baseless conspiracy theories, despite large amounts of hard data collected over 4 years from numerous players and guilds that shows the contrary? And the fact that CG has clearly stated (and on numerous occasions) that they don't change drop rates? Okay, I guess. You are entitled to your opinion - just not your own set of facts. Until you actually track the data and honestly present it, then you'll have to forgive those of us whose "thoughts" are based in the factual world of numerous others who have diligently done so.
Your obviously wanting a fight. Your entire statement is incorrect. I know what experiences I have with this game is. To ask for raw data that you know cannot be given spanning several years and if possible will take far longer then this event will last or this thread will live, in this game shows your back peddleing and you have nothing left to fight with. Or I am actually on too something due to various and multiple double drop events and the current event that I am fresh aware as it was just few days ago. Can you deny that that happened. Can you sit and say I was actually wrong. And if so where is your data. 4 days no drops...full 5 attempts, ending with less then 30% shard drop and then double drops continue to reaffirm the less then 30%. Spanning more then a week almost 10 days worth of energy and 100% attempts. So try to shut me down...your wrong and your badgering me a community member gives me credence. As if any community member can compile, stock, And maintain years worth of data in anticipation of just this type of event to prove to you who may or may not be a Dev so as to satisfy your thirst for a fight. Just because I didn't video tape and or screen shot every action the last 10 days in no way defaults me to be wrong. Your offense stance against me proves your either a Dev hiding behind a player alt in order to debunk your actions. Sort of hand in the cookie jar cought. Or your just another player looking to fight in which your wasting my time in what was my thoughts as asked in a thread and I shared my experience and opinion. Which was pure and true and remains so.
Thank you for your opinion!
I am not a developer. I am not looking to fight. I simply grow weary of people spreading false information and opinion, pretending it's data and fact. Especially since people doing so are completely disregarding the work that many guilds and hundreds of players have put in actually tracking the drop rates since the start of the game.
Here is data provided by hundreds of players with tens of thousands of data points - as opposed to a few days of anecdote and "feelings":
Follow any of the links from page 3 of the same conversation from 4 months ago. Don't worry - your fellow players have already done all the hard work for you. You don't actually even have to track all those numbers yourself. But rest assured, if you actually did, they'd come up about 30-33%....like they always have.
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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They helped me. Finished my Anakin ship, almost done with Shak Ti (81/100) and got my rose and holdo to 6.5* each. And plenty of kyro’s. I’m content lol
I don't know, but every time we have double drops, it feels that the drop chance is lower than normal 😶
“Feels like” =/= “is”
It's a moot point to make since we'll never know for sure.
The Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment patent makes that plain.
You can take the company's word for it, but that's not typically been the wisest course with most companies.
Fleet and regular hard node have been less than 20% drop for me. Cantina has been pretty good though
I don't know, but every time we have double drops, it feels that the drop chance is lower than normal 😶
“Feels like” =/= “is”
It's a moot point to make since we'll never know for sure.
The Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment patent makes that plain.
You can take the company's word for it, but that's not typically been the wisest course with most companies.
Or you can look at the data actually collected by hundreds of players/guilds with thousands of data points over the past 4 years that all point to a 30-33% shard drop rate at all times. But let's just keep pretending that no one has ever actually tracked the data...it's much more fun ignoring facts!
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
I don't know, but every time we have double drops, it feels that the drop chance is lower than normal 😶
“Feels like” =/= “is”
It's a moot point to make since we'll never know for sure.
The Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment patent makes that plain.
You can take the company's word for it, but that's not typically been the wisest course with most companies.
Or you can look at the data actually collected by hundreds of players/guilds with thousands of data points over the past 4 years that all point to a 30-33% shard drop rate at all times. But let's just keep pretending that no one has ever actually tracked the data...it's much more fun ignoring facts!
And you are someone the had no understanding of diminishing returns in any way or form that too goes for any of you saying x2 are a great thing and I cant be bothered to teach it to you go google it 1000s of top professional mathmathic bodys have done that for you
and for the 9th or 10th time it's all dependant on RNG if it's good during the x2 you think it's worth it,
If it's bad you dont.
It isnt the gift to all it is made out to be just because it was good to you done not stop the fact of 30 runs and 0 shards for me not you try stepping out of your bubble and see others get a different experience than you
Even with only freebie energies you had way past 30 runs during 2x. And a few times that if you had just used some refills. 2x is universally 2x better. Now you can get same sprees on drought on 1x until next 2x. They are not the same.
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20*0 is very bad on a %20 roll. Still total amount of rolls on games freebies is much more than 20 times and hoarding/refilling gets you a few times that.
Here's putting things on scale:
0 hits on a %20 chance event on 20 tries:
0.011529215046068
0 hits on a %20 chance event on 100 tries:
2.0370359763345E-10
So 20 fails in a row is merely %1, hopefully you are not 1 out 100 people. 100 fails in a row is 1/5 billion, it's very unlikely to happen to any player even though we are legion, millions of players.
Do what you want. Both are choices, one of those choices are way less valid strategically.
As far as the bolded, yes it is. It has been proven time and again - during double drops, prior to events, during events, by what CG has stated and what literally hundreds of players and guilds have tracked over SIGNIFICANT SAMPLE SIZES, the drop rate for character shards is and always has been 30-33%. Period. Bad luck over the course of a few days by a player or 3 doesn't prove the contrary.
Ironically, when the tin-foil-hat brigade is asked to actually track their data one of two things happens:
1) They are never heard from again (likely because either they are too lazy to actually track drop rates or, rarely because they do track them - realize the drop rates are actually 30-33% and just move on).
2) They realize the drop rates are actually 30-33% and post that here and apologize.
Please note, #1 os much more common because human nature.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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If only you could get a paycheck for reading them all. lol
Right? RNG can be so random sometimes.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Just not leading up too or during double drops as it is a gimmick to gain capital. When meta toons are sought. I have had plenty of double drops quadruple drops on garbage, training droids, toons already at 7*, insignificant characters. And tons of white/blue gear that no longer serves any purpose and no one wants. Most likely due to thier excess of thousands of same gear themselves.
Maybe it is just bad luck, but wow has it been a looooooong streak. Many years into this game. And the process is very repetitive every time. Makes a person pause and say, " Hmmmm??
If you're being sarcastic, you mean to say the number of people with bad luck isn't significantly higher than someone or 3?
Preach it Brother!
As at least two others pointed out, slicing mats dropped really nicely.
You believe that only up too 3 are affected. Change your name too jester.. because brother you are 1 funny dude.
That's right, i believe 3 players or less had bad RNG during double drops. Now that's sarcasme.
PR meeting time..let's shut this guy down he is on to us. (Sarcastic)
It's been fun thank you for your input!
Data please. Oh, and Google, "confirmation bias" and its remedy while you're at it.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
So your "thoughts" are baseless conspiracy theories, despite large amounts of hard data collected over 4 years from numerous players and guilds that shows the contrary? And the fact that CG has clearly stated (and on numerous occasions) that they don't change drop rates? Okay, I guess. You are entitled to your opinion - just not your own set of facts. Until you actually track the data and honestly present it, then you'll have to forgive those of us whose "thoughts" are based in the factual world of numerous others who have diligently done so.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Double drop only gives even number of shards so now i m stuck at 99/100
Rats, guess you'll have to wait until Wednesday!
Your obviously wanting a fight. Your entire statement is incorrect. I know what experiences I have with this game is. To ask for raw data that you know cannot be given spanning several years and if possible will take far longer then this event will last or this thread will live, in this game shows your back peddleing and you have nothing left to fight with. Or I am actually on too something due to various and multiple double drop events and the current event that I am fresh aware as it was just few days ago. Can you deny that that happened. Can you sit and say I was actually wrong. And if so where is your data. 4 days no drops...full 5 attempts, ending with less then 30% shard drop and then double drops continue to reaffirm the less then 30%. Spanning more then a week almost 10 days worth of energy and 100% attempts. So try to shut me down...your wrong and your badgering me a community member gives me credence. As if any community member can compile, stock, And maintain years worth of data in anticipation of just this type of event to prove to you who may or may not be a Dev so as to satisfy your thirst for a fight. Just because I didn't video tape and or screen shot every action the last 10 days in no way defaults me to be wrong. Your offense stance against me proves your either a Dev hiding behind a player alt in order to debunk your actions. Sort of hand in the cookie jar cought. Or your just another player looking to fight in which your wasting my time in what was my thoughts as asked in a thread and I shared my experience and opinion. Which was pure and true and remains so.
Thank you for your opinion!
I am not a developer. I am not looking to fight. I simply grow weary of people spreading false information and opinion, pretending it's data and fact. Especially since people doing so are completely disregarding the work that many guilds and hundreds of players have put in actually tracking the drop rates since the start of the game.
Here is data provided by hundreds of players with tens of thousands of data points - as opposed to a few days of anecdote and "feelings":
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/213910/double-drops-should-have-an-asterisk-next-to-it/p3
Follow any of the links from page 3 of the same conversation from 4 months ago. Don't worry - your fellow players have already done all the hard work for you. You don't actually even have to track all those numbers yourself. But rest assured, if you actually did, they'd come up about 30-33%....like they always have.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Shouldn't that mean I would not have finished off Brood Alpha yesterday/today with a 50% shard rate during double drops for 100% Shard to Sim rate????
Oh wait, but I did
Double drops are an easy way to push through cantina farms FAST!
While this statement is true, the lack of such things certainly does nothing to prove you are right.
The mass collected data of hundreds of other players does suggest you are wrong though (with a very high degree of certainty).
Fleet and regular hard node have been less than 20% drop for me. Cantina has been pretty good though
Or you can look at the data actually collected by hundreds of players/guilds with thousands of data points over the past 4 years that all point to a 30-33% shard drop rate at all times. But let's just keep pretending that no one has ever actually tracked the data...it's much more fun ignoring facts!
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
*This space left intentionally blank*
Even with only freebie energies you had way past 30 runs during 2x. And a few times that if you had just used some refills. 2x is universally 2x better. Now you can get same sprees on drought on 1x until next 2x. They are not the same.