oQGJ change

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  • Ultra
    9384 posts Moderator
    GaCvet wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »
    TheDude420 wrote: »
    Almost 12k views and 263 comments in just over 48 hours. Yet CG sees nothing wrong with refusing refunds?

    How about listening to your customers and understanding the value of providing good customer service?

    Why do you insist on treating us like we are in an abusive relationship? Is it because you think we won’t leave you? Typical abusive mindset.

    Its a long weekend

    Hopefully, when they are back in office, they reconsider their decision

    They just got back...how about showing up for a few days?

    Are you working on 7 days a week too after christmas / new years break?
  • cocoapro wrote: »
    I checked in so I could get an answer for those who are asking about a refund.

    We return resources for a character if we fundamentally change their identity. This change did not hit that bar.

    I completely disagree that the character did not fundamentally change. It was a huge change to what was sold to us. Omicrons were explicitly stated to bring characters up to GL level in their specific game modes which this previously did, and now it clearly no longer works at that level.

    With that said, we deserve more info on what would or wouldn’t be considered a “fundamental change” by capital games so we can make more informed decisions on our spending of resources in the future.

    actually no, they said some could be compared to a GL but most would be comparable to legendary characters.

    but in this case I would say before the nerf he was comparable to a GL but now might be a legend at worst, confrontation at best
    the power of these new Mode Specific abilities can vary from legendary levels of power, and in rare cases, all the way up to rivaling Galactic Legends in their specific mode.
  • i guess cg tested the new version of oQGJ in the arena and it wasn't significantly diffrent from the one before. we need another round of gac and the players to test it for you?
    but even without testing: the players knew just by reading the old leadership version, how powerful it was in grand arena and had high potential vs galatic legends. you may have been surprised by it, but the players were not. it became the most used omicron.
    now without testing, we can tell you just by reading the new leadership: it now won't work at all against galactic legends (isn't that a fundamental change?), in other fights, the damage spread on qgj death will be high, but far away from the old numbers, qgj will not be affected at all from the omicron anymore. Yes, it is still looks like a decent leadership, but not even close to what it was, when players used their very rare omicron materials (plus zeta and maybe even more relic mats).
    it really feels bad, that a pretty high ingame investment, became less valuable after only one round of gac. Please return the omicron materials (and zeta + relic materials) and let each player decide if they want to reapply it again. it wasn't our players fault we signed on a good deal and you changed the item we got afterwards.
  • This decision by CG, sets a precedent as no omicron fundamentaly alters a character’s identity outside of the game mode the omicron affects.

    So using this basis, no omicrons will ever be returned.

    It’ll be rolo next, for making tb and esy 4/.

    Disgusting decision, just do the right thing, admit you didn’t test properly, and refund the omicron
  • Ultra
    9384 posts Moderator
    Ultra wrote: »
    GaCvet wrote: »
    Ultra wrote: »
    TheDude420 wrote: »
    Almost 12k views and 263 comments in just over 48 hours. Yet CG sees nothing wrong with refusing refunds?

    How about listening to your customers and understanding the value of providing good customer service?

    Why do you insist on treating us like we are in an abusive relationship? Is it because you think we won’t leave you? Typical abusive mindset.

    Its a long weekend

    Hopefully, when they are back in office, they reconsider their decision

    They just got back...how about showing up for a few days?

    Are you working on 7 days a week too after christmas / new years break?

    5 days.
    You just got back from holidays, how about showing up for work for a few days?
  • QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov
  • Jefferx wrote: »
    QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov

    Ok CG man
  • Jefferx wrote: »
    QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov

    You do realize you don't have to set oQGJ on defense right? Easy example:

    Two <2m GP SLKR owners get matched. And because they had to get relic JKA for SLKR, one of them decided to gear up QGJ and give him his omi. Both set their SLKR on defense and the 1 guy with his oQGJ clears the opponents SLKR with his oQGJ in 1 attempt while the other guy either failed completely or needed a 2-shot and lost the match.
    Now the omicron doesn't work with/against GLs at all.

    Not a big change, huh?
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  • After some thought here is what I would be happy with.

    "Capital Games will not refund any mats, etc due to changes in any and all heroes, regardless of said changes. "

    Then this issue is done. Stay or go away. Let the chips fall where they may. Have the ..... to state the truth, add it to TOS, monogram it on Shirts, w/e it takes. That at least would upfront and honest. Which of course is why it will never, ever happen.

    Lol
  • Legend91 wrote: »
    Jefferx wrote: »
    QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov

    You do realize you don't have to set oQGJ on defense right? Easy example:

    Two <2m GP SLKR owners get matched. And because they had to get relic JKA for SLKR, one of them decided to gear up QGJ and give him his omi. Both set their SLKR on defense and the 1 guy with his oQGJ clears the opponents SLKR with his oQGJ in 1 attempt while the other guy either failed completely or needed a 2-shot and lost the match.
    Now the omicron doesn't work with/against GLs at all.

    Not a big change, huh?

    Well yes, but common sense suggests that they put their qgj on defence and keep the slkr for attack now. If their opponent doesn’t keep their kylo for attack then nothing has changed has it?

    It’s still a big enough change to warrant a refund, I just don’t think this is the greatest example.

  • Kard_1986 wrote: »
    Legend91 wrote: »
    Jefferx wrote: »
    QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov

    You do realize you don't have to set oQGJ on defense right? Easy example:

    Two <2m GP SLKR owners get matched. And because they had to get relic JKA for SLKR, one of them decided to gear up QGJ and give him his omi. Both set their SLKR on defense and the 1 guy with his oQGJ clears the opponents SLKR with his oQGJ in 1 attempt while the other guy either failed completely or needed a 2-shot and lost the match.
    Now the omicron doesn't work with/against GLs at all.

    Not a big change, huh?

    Well yes, but common sense suggests that they put their qgj on defence and keep the slkr for attack now. If their opponent doesn’t keep their kylo for attack then nothing has changed has it?

    It’s still a big enough change to warrant a refund, I just don’t think this is the greatest example.

    Actually, I think this is the biggest reason it warrants a refund for me. I’ve applied an omicron that I will never get to use as the team will always be on defence. I want to play the game and use these abilities. I know I don’t HAVE to put it on D, but realistically with crystals tied in to ga I can’t muck about.
  • I think they should at least give a refund for those that applied the omi before the Dec 17 announcement where they made clear that it's gonna get changed. For those that applied it after that announcement..well...you have been warned.
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  • Legend91 wrote: »
    I think they should at least give a refund for those that applied the omi before the Dec 17 announcement where they made clear that it's gonna get changed. For those that applied it after that announcement..well...you have been warned.

    Even this position is flawed, imo. Their announcement only mentioned offense, and there are folks that have talked about using QGJ alongside their own GL for the pre-death offense boost.
  • aerohead88 wrote: »
    Jefferx wrote: »
    QGJ omicron will still be a dominant grand arena toon. Nobody, except CG test the fixed QGJ omicron so why complain ? GL beat QGJ omicron before and they will also after. It’s not a big change in my pov

    I won a match because my oQGJ team I set on defense annihilated a SLKR team after SLKR took out QGJ. This happened to a lot of GL teams in this last season of GAC. I understand if CG wants to protect GL's by not making overpowered abilities, however if an overpowered ability slips through the cracks and people spend expensive resources to get that ability, it's only right to refund those spent resources if you nerf that ability afterwards.

    They can’t even say that it slipped through the cracks. You mean to tell me that they didn’t test this with one of the 6 highest priority characters in the game? If they aren’t testing things against GL’s on the most basic of levels then they have zero quality testing done. Algorithms or not, this is just basic testing that anyone could’ve seen if it was just played.
  • Set your OQGJ on defense, let your opponent worry about it.
  • I simply have to chip in on this discussion.. This was a major change of a kit feature to exclude leader and GL from the entire boost. now is it understandable after having seen the omi in live and in particular with JML and JKA.. sure it was a very powerful kit.. but the synergies and similar were plain from the release, which is why so many people bought it. I can understand they changed it, but i'm not sure i would have prioritized the new version of many of the other omi's. At it is a very troublesome area... so what about dash, rolo, mara, Boba fat? they are also very good omi abilities.. will get they nerf'ed once enough people get enough omi to play with them?
  • Still utter crap. They materially changed the character. Ignore the GL change, it also changed his kit beyond protecting further form the GL’s.

    For something CG was selling for $99.99 over the holidays, they owe the players a refund.

    CG is just craptastic to its players and clearly don’t give two…
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