To me, the real disparity between the two results from the massive benefits of Advantage, which is basically always granted vs the lackluster benefits of Inspired. My next gripe would be that the benefits of Siphon, even coupled with the reduced HP/Prot from TM gain, vastly outweigh the benefits of Rey's mastery stacking.
For what its worth, some obscure youtuber has a method for autoing slkr in roughly a minute using Rey under Gas. May be mod dependent,but it does work.
Not to say I don't still think Rey needs some sort of update so she doesn't have to break up 3 teams for GA/TW in order to beat Kylo....
For what its worth, some obscure youtuber has a method for autoing slkr in roughly a minute using Rey under Gas. May be mod dependent,but it does work.
Not to say I don't still think Rey needs some sort of update so she doesn't have to break up 3 teams for GA/TW in order to beat Kylo....
Not sure if it's the same team but GAS lead Rey Chewie Fives +1 works great, especially with guard on GAS. No stun, no crit, slow ult charge.
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For what its worth, some obscure youtuber has a method for autoing slkr in roughly a minute using Rey under Gas. May be mod dependent,but it does work.
Not to say I don't still think Rey needs some sort of update so she doesn't have to break up 3 teams for GA/TW in order to beat Kylo....
Not sure if it's the same team but GAS lead Rey Chewie Fives +1 works great, especially with guard on GAS. No stun, no crit, slow ult charge.
This is what I've been using to climb, except I've been getting Guard on Fives. Pretty effortless.
For GAC/TW, my most reliable counter that doesn't borrow too much from other teams is GLR, L3, Wat, Han, Chewie.
For what its worth, some obscure youtuber has a method for autoing slkr in roughly a minute using Rey under Gas. May be mod dependent,but it does work.
Not to say I don't still think Rey needs some sort of update so she doesn't have to break up 3 teams for GA/TW in order to beat Kylo....
Not sure if it's the same team but GAS lead Rey Chewie Fives +1 works great, especially with guard on GAS. No stun, no crit, slow ult charge.
Yeah that's the team with the +1 being Han. Guard on Gas is the way to go. It's literally click auto and win in ~60s.
Tried the team with guard on 5's but that one can choke on Malak/Thrawn setups and isn't an auto button team.
The buff on June 3rd had no explanation and were these two things that make a significant difference:
Updated Supreme Leader Kylo Ren's leader ability, Supreme Leader, with the following: -Added "All Dark Side allies gain +30 Speed" to all tiers
-Added "Dark Side allies can't be critically hit while they have Advantage" to the final tier
It was pretty clearly to prevent the "kill a full Kylo team with GAS + one other 501st" cheese. GAS's cooldown increase on crit prevented Kylo using anything but his basic, so he couldn't charge up his ult and he couldn't kill GAS with just non-critting basics.
I'm not sure why the speed was added specifically, but given that Rey has it and leaderships that don't grant speed or turn meter are often difficult to make useful, that probably should've just been there to begin with anyway.
You are correct
My bad - I thought one of the ai fixes was to prevent that. With over a month between the announcement and the change I missed the connection.
That said, it's another example of CG using a hand grenade to fix an issue when a scalpel would have sufficed. It's also odd that they never tested him against the then-current meta (even a slightly cheesy version). But again, par for the course as far as CG is concerned.
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As soon as I saw rose as a requirement for gl Rey I knew she wasnt worth it, after I found out you didnt even have to use her in the event I knew I made the right choice. If they released jar jar binks he would be relic7 before rose ever goes above gear 5. Only reason I have her 7* is for platoons lol.
Guessing you aren't going for Jedi Luke either because ROLO / Lando aren't that useful enough to push to g13 either
more use than rose
I won't argue that she's a D- character (to the point that when someone tells you he uses RT, you think Resistance Trooper because it's more likely), but she deserves respect.
I use Rose in my full GL Res team (Rey+Rose+Holdo+RH Finn+Finn) to take on full GL FO teams. It doesn't hold on defense like at all, it's not more efficient that a GAS+Rey team, but it's reliable (for me anyway) and makes the day-to-day climbing to the top way more fun, and Grand Arena against Kylo easier to manage as I don't have to tear teams apart, even though it's minimal wage banner-wise.
She can do stuff sometimes, like trying to save what she loves with a Defense up. Kinda useful sometimes. Kinda. Sometimes. (sigh)
As soon as I saw rose as a requirement for gl Rey I knew she wasnt worth it, after I found out you didnt even have to use her in the event I knew I made the right choice. If they released jar jar binks he would be relic7 before rose ever goes above gear 5. Only reason I have her 7* is for platoons lol.
Guessing you aren't going for Jedi Luke either because ROLO / Lando aren't that useful enough to push to g13 either
more use than rose
I won't argue that she's a D- character (to the point that when someone tells you he uses RT, you think Resistance Trooper because it's more likely), but she deserves respect.
I use Rose in my full GL Res team (Rey+Rose+Holdo+RH Finn+Finn) to take on full GL FO teams. It doesn't hold on defense like at all, it's not more efficient that a GAS+Rey team, but it's reliable (for me anyway) and makes the day-to-day climbing to the top way more fun, and Grand Arena against Kylo easier to manage as I don't have to tear teams apart, even though it's minimal wage banner-wise.
She can do stuff sometimes, like trying to save what she loves with a Defense up. Kinda useful sometimes. Kinda. Sometimes. (sigh)
Nice. Bulldog just posted the video in another thread. Well done. Nice theorycrafting.
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The game has a huge problem with GL Rey, the character is not Legend level. He is not very playable. In battles with GL Rey, there are often bugs. Instead of enhancing GL Rey and fixing bugs, you are making a second new character. Don't you care about the players at all?)
Rey isn't meant to be an offensive ace in the hole. She's meant to be someone who makes you waste your best team and set you at a disadvantage if you played carelessly. She's a defensive juggernaut, that doesn't make her necessarily bad.
I got Rey and I think I like her more because she is a woman 🤣 when did she turn into Ray? I agree that her character is not legend level though. None on the characters from the sequel trilogy are legend material
I think there is practically no player who has made a GLRey for himself and does not regret it.
GLRey is just a mockery of the players by EA&CG.
I play against her every day and she's way harder to beat than slkr
So you don't know her and how she is difficult to play compared to god kylo. Please take a seat and listen to actual Rey owner instead of preaching your ignorance on this subject.
And the fact that you are struggling against her with slkr means that you are clearly doing something wrong, I encourage you to look at some videos. Rey is utterly destroyed by SLKR. Not really auto but close. You can't say the same for the opposite. Maybe if you have the last OP toon that JKL you can have a chance but otherwise it is really a pain to face this unbalance everyday
Almost every Rey users says there is a problem in her efficiency as a Galactic Legends. Every Kylo users say it's fiiiiiine xD
I think there is practically no player who has made a GLRey for himself and does not regret it.
GLRey is just a mockery of the players by EA&CG.
I play against her every day and she's way harder to beat than slkr
So you don't know her and how she is difficult to play compared to god kylo. Please take a seat and listen to actual Rey owner instead of preaching your ignorance on this subject.
And the fact that you are struggling against her with slkr means that you are clearly doing something wrong, I encourage you to look at some videos. Rey is utterly destroyed by SLKR. Not really auto but close. You can't say the same for the opposite. Maybe if you have the last OP toon that JKL you can have a chance but otherwise it is really a pain to face this unbalance everyday
Almost every Rey users says there is a problem in her efficiency as a Galactic Legends. Every Kylo users say it's fiiiiiine xD
If your only way of responding is with mocking condescension and bordering the limits of Ad Hominems then you might as well say nothing, stooping low enough to say "You just don't know what you're talking about, I am right and I know it, and if you disagree you're not all that smart" proves that you're just in the wrong because you're not looking to make a valid point, you're just looking for an argument to win.
Rey can indeed beat a SLKR if she's on defense provided RnG plays it nicely or she has something else in her comp that severely messes up consistencies, like Malak or Wat. Wins against Rey are never guaranteed. The Ignorant assumptions that there is way to win against Rey 100% of the time, all the time, proves you are the one who has no idea about Rey.
Refrain from responding if you're just gonna be a **** about it without even offering one decent enough point to address.
I think there is practically no player who has made a GLRey for himself and does not regret it.
GLRey is just a mockery of the players by EA&CG.
I play against her every day and she's way harder to beat than slkr
So you don't know her and how she is difficult to play compared to god kylo. Please take a seat and listen to actual Rey owner instead of preaching your ignorance on this subject.
And the fact that you are struggling against her with slkr means that you are clearly doing something wrong, I encourage you to look at some videos. Rey is utterly destroyed by SLKR. Not really auto but close. You can't say the same for the opposite. Maybe if you have the last OP toon that JKL you can have a chance but otherwise it is really a pain to face this unbalance everyday
Almost every Rey users says there is a problem in her efficiency as a Galactic Legends. Every Kylo users say it's fiiiiiine xD
If your only way of responding is with mocking condescension and bordering the limits of Ad Hominems then you might as well say nothing, stooping low enough to say "You just don't know what you're talking about, I am right and I know it, and if you disagree you're not all that smart" proves that you're just in the wrong because you're not looking to make a valid point, you're just looking for an argument to win.
Rey can indeed beat a SLKR if she's on defense provided RnG plays it nicely or she has something else in her comp that severely messes up consistencies, like Malak or Wat. Wins against Rey are never guaranteed. The Ignorant assumptions that there is way to win against Rey 100% of the time, all the time, proves you are the one who has no idea about Rey.
Refrain from responding if you're just gonna be a **** about it without even offering one decent enough point to address.
It is always funny how people saying that Rey is not that good are always attacked by those rethorical answers.
So the guy I answered with "moking condescension" can say : "it's fine and you are incorrect" But I can't reply that he is the one that is in the wrong because he doesn't own the toon is making speculation on ?
Nice try, but simply just... no. Keep your partial condescendant judgement for yourself would you or do it for everyone and start with the one I was answering.
People didn't follow Rey to be worse than Kylo in all aspects. It either requires removal from the game, or rethinking. Including resistance teams. Rey has nothing but a whirlwind, the whole mechanic is a sword throw.
I think there is practically no player who has made a GLRey for himself and does not regret it.
GLRey is just a mockery of the players by EA&CG.
I play against her every day and she's way harder to beat than slkr
So you don't know her and how she is difficult to play compared to god kylo. Please take a seat and listen to actual Rey owner instead of preaching your ignorance on this subject.
And the fact that you are struggling against her with slkr means that you are clearly doing something wrong, I encourage you to look at some videos. Rey is utterly destroyed by SLKR. Not really auto but close. You can't say the same for the opposite. Maybe if you have the last OP toon that JKL you can have a chance but otherwise it is really a pain to face this unbalance everyday
Almost every Rey users says there is a problem in her efficiency as a Galactic Legends. Every Kylo users say it's fiiiiiine xD
If your only way of responding is with mocking condescension and bordering the limits of Ad Hominems then you might as well say nothing, stooping low enough to say "You just don't know what you're talking about, I am right and I know it, and if you disagree you're not all that smart" proves that you're just in the wrong because you're not looking to make a valid point, you're just looking for an argument to win.
Rey can indeed beat a SLKR if she's on defense provided RnG plays it nicely or she has something else in her comp that severely messes up consistencies, like Malak or Wat. Wins against Rey are never guaranteed. The Ignorant assumptions that there is way to win against Rey 100% of the time, all the time, proves you are the one who has no idea about Rey.
Refrain from responding if you're just gonna be a **** about it without even offering one decent enough point to address.
It is always funny how people saying that Rey is not that good are always attacked by those rethorical answers.
So the guy I answered with "moking condescension" can say : "it's fine and you are incorrect" But I can't reply that he is the one that is in the wrong because he doesn't own the toon is making speculation on ?
Nice try, but simply just... no. Keep your partial condescendant judgement for yourself would you or do it for everyone and start with the one I was answering.
Your argument is becoming more and more petulant. You dismiss the views of people who don’t own Rey and ignore the views of people who do own Rey that disagree with you.
I am a Rey owner and have zero problem beating SLKR in arena. I’m beating him 4-5 times a day on my climb and I’ve had one loss in the last 7 days, which was entirely down to my fat finger giving the taunt tech to JKR instead of GK.
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Not to say I don't still think Rey needs some sort of update so she doesn't have to break up 3 teams for GA/TW in order to beat Kylo....
Not sure if it's the same team but GAS lead Rey Chewie Fives +1 works great, especially with guard on GAS. No stun, no crit, slow ult charge.
This is what I've been using to climb, except I've been getting Guard on Fives. Pretty effortless.
For GAC/TW, my most reliable counter that doesn't borrow too much from other teams is GLR, L3, Wat, Han, Chewie.
Yeah that's the team with the +1 being Han. Guard on Gas is the way to go. It's literally click auto and win in ~60s.
Tried the team with guard on 5's but that one can choke on Malak/Thrawn setups and isn't an auto button team.
You are correct
My bad - I thought one of the ai fixes was to prevent that. With over a month between the announcement and the change I missed the connection.
That said, it's another example of CG using a hand grenade to fix an issue when a scalpel would have sufficed. It's also odd that they never tested him against the then-current meta (even a slightly cheesy version). But again, par for the course as far as CG is concerned.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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I won't argue that she's a D- character (to the point that when someone tells you he uses RT, you think Resistance Trooper because it's more likely), but she deserves respect.
I use Rose in my full GL Res team (Rey+Rose+Holdo+RH Finn+Finn) to take on full GL FO teams. It doesn't hold on defense like at all, it's not more efficient that a GAS+Rey team, but it's reliable (for me anyway) and makes the day-to-day climbing to the top way more fun, and Grand Arena against Kylo easier to manage as I don't have to tear teams apart, even though it's minimal wage banner-wise.
She can do stuff sometimes, like trying to save what she loves with a Defense up. Kinda useful sometimes. Kinda. Sometimes. (sigh)
Nice. Bulldog just posted the video in another thread. Well done. Nice theorycrafting.
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Said the player who has never played her.
I think there is practically no player who has made a GLRey for himself and does not regret it.
GLRey is just a mockery of the players by EA&CG.
Back when Rey was a man
I play against her every day and she's way harder to beat than slkr
I’ve got Rey and don’t regret it.
So you don't know her and how she is difficult to play compared to god kylo. Please take a seat and listen to actual Rey owner instead of preaching your ignorance on this subject.
And the fact that you are struggling against her with slkr means that you are clearly doing something wrong, I encourage you to look at some videos. Rey is utterly destroyed by SLKR. Not really auto but close. You can't say the same for the opposite. Maybe if you have the last OP toon that JKL you can have a chance but otherwise it is really a pain to face this unbalance everyday
Almost every Rey users says there is a problem in her efficiency as a Galactic Legends. Every Kylo users say it's fiiiiiine xD
If your only way of responding is with mocking condescension and bordering the limits of Ad Hominems then you might as well say nothing, stooping low enough to say "You just don't know what you're talking about, I am right and I know it, and if you disagree you're not all that smart" proves that you're just in the wrong because you're not looking to make a valid point, you're just looking for an argument to win.
Rey can indeed beat a SLKR if she's on defense provided RnG plays it nicely or she has something else in her comp that severely messes up consistencies, like Malak or Wat. Wins against Rey are never guaranteed. The Ignorant assumptions that there is way to win against Rey 100% of the time, all the time, proves you are the one who has no idea about Rey.
Refrain from responding if you're just gonna be a **** about it without even offering one decent enough point to address.
i think you downloaded the wrong movie
It is always funny how people saying that Rey is not that good are always attacked by those rethorical answers.
So the guy I answered with "moking condescension" can say : "it's fine and you are incorrect" But I can't reply that he is the one that is in the wrong because he doesn't own the toon is making speculation on ?
Nice try, but simply just... no. Keep your partial condescendant judgement for yourself would you or do it for everyone and start with the one I was answering.
Since you have both unlocked that is pretty obvious
I think you didn't read op
I am a Rey owner and have zero problem beating SLKR in arena. I’m beating him 4-5 times a day on my climb and I’ve had one loss in the last 7 days, which was entirely down to my fat finger giving the taunt tech to JKR instead of GK.
Maybe you’re the one doing something wrong?