I don't know from where you get your feedback, but I can't agree with this
post.
Datacrons are a fun
If you look purely at game mechanics, yeah datacron are fun, but I feel like playing a poker game when trying to upgrade them and since it is RNG, it breaks GAC matchmaking, you need luck to get what you want (or money), and this is way too much RNG is this game ... IMO it would be more fun to make datacron like a talent tree from a RPG and less RNG (yeah, I hate this gambling mechanism). Having a peticular level mechanic much better than the others make the level entirely useless, they need to be fun and suits your play style or datacron are juste ++mods (all speed nothing else).
“Datacrons need to have a longer life span, I feel like I don’t get a chance to use them after upgrading them.”
I feel datacron should be synchronized with GAC, TW and Conquest, no longer than a season and as a F2P (but nearly end level), I got the level 9 datacron (the most funny part, sure) after the begining of the 1st GAC / TW, so we are already a week without the funny part of the datacron, but I am sure most of other players get their first level 9 datacron way later...
Maybe starting the GAC season and TW a bit later would be better ?
“I have so many Datacrons that I don’t or can’t invest in due to sheer volume.”
Yeah, we got too many
useless datacrons, sure, RNG is (was?) pretty bad so why should we upgrade / reroll them? I can't believe that datacron mechanics have equal chance, they must be weigthed .... Or maybe people shoud just dismantle useless datacron and retrieve a part of the materials invested to upgrade them and upgrading other since the reroll cost goes up pretty fast...
After looking at the data we noticed
Raw data are just raw data, people tends to interpret them as it suits them, please share your sources or am I the only having trust issues? Because I feel like CG is missing the why there is so much datacrons collecting dust in their inventory, it might be true for some people but not for everyone.
I got a lots of datacron (level 0) at the end of the Conquest, and don't invest in them because I just can't use them without a full team at least R3, or I upgrade them until level 3 and I didn't get what I want so I keep upgrading other to level 3.
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Thank you for reaching out to me via PM, Discord, Twitter, Forums, Pigeon, Fox, etc with your questions on Datacrons!
If specific Datacron A is in a GAC lineup, can it be used in a TW as well or is it no longer available to be used?
During an average set, how many datacrons will I have and be able to apply?
Can I use a datacron on a team that has some members at relic 5, some at relic 3 and will only the members at the different relic levels get the corresponding benefits? (I.e. Relic 3 gets the level 1-3 bonuses and Relic 5 gets the level 1-6 bonuses). Or must I have my entire team at the relic level higher in order to receive any form of bonus?
Will rewards scale for TW? Will Guilds be able to bring less people and fight lower level Guilds to earn the same amount of rewards they should be getting at a higher level?
How much community feedback will you (CG) take into account during the Exhibition period? What things will you be looking for from us as the users?
How are the factions and characters determined for each set?
During 6/14 through 7/10 - Can you use datacrons anywhere or are you just assembling them? This indicates you cannot use them in battle until 7/11 - 9/4. Is that correct?
Will they be randomly generated or will each sector have a specific datacron? If random, will a system be in place to prevent a player from getting the same datacron in every sector?
Do Datacrons have an inventory limit? If so, how many?
30 per set
Can you clarify the terminology used in Datacrons? What are Stat Levels? What is a Bonus Stat / Bonus Mechanic?
Do Mechanics all have the same % chance to get re-rolled in a tier?
Are the Conquest Bonus Battles guaranteed to drop a Datacron?
Are Conquest Bonus Battles repeatable with rewards?
You betcha!
What kind of time investment is expected for datacrons?
Why invest in something temporary?
What is Data-cache?
ADDED QUESTIONS:
Is there any concern about certain Datacrons causing infinite loops? Aayla and Finn's (under JTR) Bonus Turns on Stuns and Mara Jade's CD Reduction both seem like they could cause infinite TM or even Bonus Turn loops, with maybe a few others.
If we re-roll a datacron (i.e. Tier 9 character roll), are we guaranteed a different result than the current character?
Will datacrons lock like mods when joining GA?
Yes
During GA setup phase will we be able to see which datacrons our enemy has available?
Yes
If yes to question 1 and 2: will we be seeing the live version or the locked (please, please, please) version of the datacrons?
The locked version
Can you use a datacron on an undersized team and will it activate the bonus ? Ie if I have an R7 wampa will he be able to go solo with a datacron ? Another example is if I have 4 characters at R5 and one at g12 (like my BB) can I just take the 4 and get the datacron bonus?
Thank you again and we look forward to you getting Datacrons in your hands.
Please feel free to leave any additional questions in the comment section below and I will try to get them answered.
Okay - any form of paywall on Datacrons is heavily conflicting with my goals.
Do you mind fixing it before they go live?
2. During GA setup phase will we be able to see which datacrons our enemy has available?
3. If yes to question 1 and 2: will we be seeing the live version or the locked (please, please, please) version of the datacrons?
So it's like mod farming but with Conquest energy and without simming ?
Yeah, I don't like that at all.
Simming isn't a good idea because you also have to complete conquest feats such as winning 14 times with Inquisitor faction etc
Sounds like you are getting materials while completing your feats after clearing Sector 5 which doesn't sound too bad and makes the grind of conquest after Sector 5 completion not as bad as it currently is (since we don't get any materials right now)
You’ve made it less likely that people are going to spend money.
No
But TW is a pain to manage and very unpredictable since every player will have a different faction / toon bonus, it kinda makes TW into a RNG mix and match since 24 hours isn't enough time to plan for 50 players, not really seeing how it'll help the guild flex their strategy at all
They have a ticking clock, and a large number of players with very different bonuses, and lots of zones to clear
Fair point. If it's a node I can farm, as it depends on the team there.
Anyway, at the end of the day, it just means I'll fight the same battle even more than before because if I want to be efficient, I'll probably use my 3x50 refreshes everyday during the entire conquest to get as much datacron materiel as I can get. So Conquest will be even more of a chore than before.
Edit: if you want to make me spend my time and crystals for refreshes on Conquest, put the materials in every node and let me choose which node I want to farm, it will be less of a chore. Or even better, don't make bonus battles repeatables, or with materials associated to feats to make me fight the node several times with a different team.
Where it's the Gear economy changes? Since october 27th 2021 nothing new from the half phase 1, we Are on june 4th 2022, still nothing new about the missing half of phase 1, still nothing new about announce phase 2. Isn't enough time to change, maybe, a single number on hard nodes???
Why differenciating AGAIN now with ratacrons the ones you can get on normal conquest vs the ones from hard?
Why having to face on GAC such discrepancy on GP? Now with Ratacrons it's going to be a massive headache
Why proving grounds have a requeriment of 4m GP When It wasn't announced and make people to WASTE RESSOURCES on getting More units to the requeriment?
Why omicrons are Made for specific mode? It should be just PvP or PvE.
Where it's the CATCH-UP mechanics?? I read about this but only thing i can do it's just laugh (because reading incoherent arguments and lot of lies....).
Where is the QoL that this app it's lacking?
Where is the sim on Sith triumvirate?
Anyone from the Devs really play this app???
You got that right. Nightmare for officers in a TW focused guild.
Unfortunately I don't think we are getting any of these promised improvements/changes anytime in the near future...if at all.
So datacrons will make conquest even more of a chore without any of the QoL improvements we’ve been asking to get implemented for over a year now. Sounds….fun
Where can we find these weights?
I think knowing the odds of what you are rolling for (for example, GL bonuses for Level 9) is important if its weighted
they've already stated you'll earn materials through conquest battles, so there's no paywall.
if you're already ignoring most of the game by "playing a little while" then it won't much affect your experience.
Yes it will. If you don’t have the time to build a Datacron set and your GAC / TW opponents do, you’ll go down in GAC rank quite a bit and/or end up contributing less in TW. And Datacrons need to be redone nearly entirely each month unlike mods or gear.