Solicitation for Topics of Interest

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  • Zombefyer
    227 posts Member
    CG_Doja_Fett
    Because of the final season of 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars', one character we'd really love to see is Admiral Trench, who, as a Fleet Commander, could be a Defensive Alternative to General Grievous.
  • Xcien
    1178 posts Member
    Zombefyer wrote: »
    CG_Doja_Fett
    Because of the final season of 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars', one character we'd really love to see is Admiral Trench, who, as a Fleet Commander, could be a Defensive Alternative to General Grievous.

    That would be great. They should add Admiral Trench.
    "Thank you for evaluating."
  • Bellows_8
    11 posts Member
    Xcien wrote: »
    Zombefyer wrote: »
    CG_Doja_Fett
    Because of the final season of 'Star Wars: The Clone Wars', one character we'd really love to see is Admiral Trench, who, as a Fleet Commander, could be a Defensive Alternative to General Grievous.

    That would be great. They should add Admiral Trench.

    I also think they should add Hondo since he was a big part of the Clone Wars tv show
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    edited May 6
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    edited May 6
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.
  • Ultra
    7716 posts Moderator
    1. Reasons were given on why it stopped
    2. What's wrong with not going with the largest content creator? Isn't it nice to let others shine?
    3. CG does make announcements to bring attention to OM or GWR or other platforms when they do
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    edited May 6
    Ultra wrote: »
    1. Reasons were given on why it stopped
    2. What's wrong with not going with the largest content creator? Isn't it nice to let others shine?
    3. CG does make announcements to bring attention to OM or GWR or other platforms when they do

    1. Enlighten me, as I must have missed it.
    2. Whats wrong with going with the biggest? Whens the last time CG has done that?
    3. GWR and OM are constantly getting attention from CG, why not someone else (like you stated above)

    the OM May the 4th video has 1275 views.....1275.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    Aside from Crumb being on Cubs' stream during the day that Conquest launched, I'm struggling to think of a single instance in the past year (and even beyond that), where CG worked with content creators other than Galactic War Report or Operation Metaverse to disseminate information. In what world does almost exclusively working with the same two channels for over a year count as "broadening"? If they really wanted to broaden the resources and "help" smaller content creators, there's plenty of other content creators out there not called OM or GWR that they could work with.

    I don't want to be a downer, but I mostly agree with ly4oy4s. This new format is just a major step down from the Q&As we used to have. I appreciate the work that Doja and Crumb must have put into this, but it's just kind of sad that months of work resulted in three videos and something like 15-20 questions answered, most of which were only fun trivia questions. I don't have anything against trivia, I actually thought some of the questions were interesting, but not when there's so many other harder-hitting questions that they could tackle.

    Say what you will about how effective the old Q&As were, at least they occasionally answered some harder questions, and at least they generated discussion. There would always be post-Q&A discussion on the forums and reddit, there'd usually be someone who made a TL;DR post for those who didn't want to read all the answers, and there'd be videos made by content creators talking about the Q&A. But this new format has had three videos and I have literally not seen a single discussion post about the answers they provided, either here or on reddit. However you paint it, it doesn't seem like their attempt at "broadening" has worked. I hope they stop going to the exact same content creators every single time and expecting different results, because it's clear by now that the reach just isn't there.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    edited May 6
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    Aside from Crumb being on Cubs' stream during the day that Conquest launched, I'm struggling to think of a single instance in the past year (and even beyond that), where CG worked with content creators other than Galactic War Report or Operation Metaverse to disseminate information. In what world does almost exclusively working with the same two channels for over a year count as "broadening"? If they really wanted to broaden the resources and "help" smaller content creators, there's plenty of other content creators out there not called OM or GWR that they could work with.

    I don't want to be a downer, but I mostly agree with ly4oy4s. This new format is just a major step down from the Q&As we used to have. I appreciate the work that Doja and Crumb must have put into this, but it's just kind of sad that months of work resulted in three videos and something like 15-20 questions answered, most of which were only fun trivia questions. I don't have anything against trivia, I actually thought some of the questions were interesting, but not when there's so many other harder-hitting questions that they could tackle.

    Say what you will about how effective the old Q&As were, at least they occasionally answered some harder questions, and at least they generated discussion. There would always be post-Q&A discussion on the forums and reddit, there'd usually be someone who made a TL;DR post for those who didn't want to read all the answers, and there'd be videos made by content creators talking about the Q&A. But this new format has had three videos and I have literally not seen a single discussion post about the answers they provided, either here or on reddit. However you paint it, it doesn't seem like their attempt at "broadening" has worked. I hope they stop going to the exact same content creators every single time and expecting different results, because it's clear by now that the reach just isn't there.

    The plan with the QA was to do exactly that, Doja is having some issues, which have caused delays, and rather than delay it further, he launched it and is working on was to make it better and figure things out.

    They have made a few statements about broadening platforms they use, and they have also made it onto Discord.

    I liked the old QA, I'm just pointing out that many would and have said they dont like them.

    Edit to add: they have stated the plan they want, it has not really worked out the way they wanted, but it's still a work in progress. "Going back" to the old things doesnt help that plan. We can see how things play out.
  • Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    Aside from Crumb being on Cubs' stream during the day that Conquest launched, I'm struggling to think of a single instance in the past year (and even beyond that), where CG worked with content creators other than Galactic War Report or Operation Metaverse to disseminate information. In what world does almost exclusively working with the same two channels for over a year count as "broadening"? If they really wanted to broaden the resources and "help" smaller content creators, there's plenty of other content creators out there not called OM or GWR that they could work with.

    I don't want to be a downer, but I mostly agree with ly4oy4s. This new format is just a major step down from the Q&As we used to have. I appreciate the work that Doja and Crumb must have put into this, but it's just kind of sad that months of work resulted in three videos and something like 15-20 questions answered, most of which were only fun trivia questions. I don't have anything against trivia, I actually thought some of the questions were interesting, but not when there's so many other harder-hitting questions that they could tackle.

    Say what you will about how effective the old Q&As were, at least they occasionally answered some harder questions, and at least they generated discussion. There would always be post-Q&A discussion on the forums and reddit, there'd usually be someone who made a TL;DR post for those who didn't want to read all the answers, and there'd be videos made by content creators talking about the Q&A. But this new format has had three videos and I have literally not seen a single discussion post about the answers they provided, either here or on reddit. However you paint it, it doesn't seem like their attempt at "broadening" has worked. I hope they stop going to the exact same content creators every single time and expecting different results, because it's clear by now that the reach just isn't there.

    The plan with the QA was to do exactly that, Doja is having some issues, which have caused delays, and rather than delay it further, he launched it and is working on was to make it better and figure things out.

    They have made a few statements about broadening platforms they use, and they have also made it onto Discord.

    I liked the old QA, I'm just pointing out that many would and have said they dont like them.

    Edit to add: they have stated the plan they want, it has not really worked out the way they wanted, but it's still a work in progress. "Going back" to the old things doesnt help that plan. We can see how things play out.

    Yea I'm not saying that they should go back to the old format. I would obviously like that but it's pretty clear that that ship sailed long ago. But this new format is going to need some really drastic changes (in my opinion) for it to be anywhere near as good as I thought the old one was. I'm just not really confident that it can ever get there, especially since we don't know exactly what exactly the new "format" even is. Even if it can, I'm not expecting it anytime in the near future given how long things have taken to even get to this point.

    Eg. Is the "fun trivia" theme baked in? Because most of the questions I would like to see answers to don't fit into that category.
    Is it meant to always be video form? Because I don't want to have to skip through a 45 minute video or podcast just to find answers to 5 questions.

    I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes next but so far it just seems really lacklustre. Again, no disrespect to Doja and Crumb and all the work they've put into it. I'm just putting my thoughts out here because I had really been hoping for more.

  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Kyno wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    Aside from Crumb being on Cubs' stream during the day that Conquest launched, I'm struggling to think of a single instance in the past year (and even beyond that), where CG worked with content creators other than Galactic War Report or Operation Metaverse to disseminate information. In what world does almost exclusively working with the same two channels for over a year count as "broadening"? If they really wanted to broaden the resources and "help" smaller content creators, there's plenty of other content creators out there not called OM or GWR that they could work with.

    I don't want to be a downer, but I mostly agree with ly4oy4s. This new format is just a major step down from the Q&As we used to have. I appreciate the work that Doja and Crumb must have put into this, but it's just kind of sad that months of work resulted in three videos and something like 15-20 questions answered, most of which were only fun trivia questions. I don't have anything against trivia, I actually thought some of the questions were interesting, but not when there's so many other harder-hitting questions that they could tackle.

    Say what you will about how effective the old Q&As were, at least they occasionally answered some harder questions, and at least they generated discussion. There would always be post-Q&A discussion on the forums and reddit, there'd usually be someone who made a TL;DR post for those who didn't want to read all the answers, and there'd be videos made by content creators talking about the Q&A. But this new format has had three videos and I have literally not seen a single discussion post about the answers they provided, either here or on reddit. However you paint it, it doesn't seem like their attempt at "broadening" has worked. I hope they stop going to the exact same content creators every single time and expecting different results, because it's clear by now that the reach just isn't there.

    The plan with the QA was to do exactly that, Doja is having some issues, which have caused delays, and rather than delay it further, he launched it and is working on was to make it better and figure things out.

    They have made a few statements about broadening platforms they use, and they have also made it onto Discord.

    I liked the old QA, I'm just pointing out that many would and have said they dont like them.

    Edit to add: they have stated the plan they want, it has not really worked out the way they wanted, but it's still a work in progress. "Going back" to the old things doesnt help that plan. We can see how things play out.

    Yea I'm not saying that they should go back to the old format. I would obviously like that but it's pretty clear that that ship sailed long ago. But this new format is going to need some really drastic changes (in my opinion) for it to be anywhere near as good as I thought the old one was. I'm just not really confident that it can ever get there, especially since we don't know exactly what exactly the new "format" even is. Even if it can, I'm not expecting it anytime in the near future given how long things have taken to even get to this point.

    Eg. Is the "fun trivia" theme baked in? Because most of the questions I would like to see answers to don't fit into that category.
    Is it meant to always be video form? Because I don't want to have to skip through a 45 minute video or podcast just to find answers to 5 questions.

    I guess we'll have to wait and see what comes next but so far it just seems really lacklustre. Again, no disrespect to Doja and Crumb and all the work they've put into it. I'm just putting my thoughts out here because I had really been hoping for more.

    I think Doja would agree about the drastic changes, but I know he has run into issues with the frequency and other factors, on both sides.

    No I dont believe he had any particular media in mind, but I don't know all the details at that level, just what has and has not worked out at the moment, he has more plans, but still working on it.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



    Maybe you should be applying for thier jobs then, you seem to have this down.
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



    Maybe you should be applying for their jobs then, you seem to have this down.

    ...nice response...got no counter points?
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    edited May 6
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



    Maybe you should be applying for their jobs then, you seem to have this down.

    ...nice response...got no counter points?

    You made no valid points for me to counter I have not already stated.

    You think broadening thier outreach means going to the bigger content creators and not others, got it.

    You seem to have all the numbers and information, and the plan, you really should be applying for the job, you seem to know it all.
  • Iy4oy4s
    2352 posts Member
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



    Maybe you should be applying for their jobs then, you seem to have this down.

    ...nice response...got no counter points?

    You made no valid points for me to counter I have not already stated.

    You think broadening thier outreach means going to the bigger content creators and not others, got it.

    You seem to have all the numbers and the plan, you really should be applying for the job, you seem to know it all.

    Never claimed to know it all, as I stated, I'm no marketing expert, but I have eyes.
    The problem with your statement is that they only use OM and GWR...but whatever, I can see you are done with this convo, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    Kyno wrote: »
    Iy4oy4s wrote: »
    So the new format for the Q&A's is dead or gonna take even more time? Asking for a friend who isnt one of the 802 Operation Metaverse followers and doesnt pay any attention to them.....this seems to be just another one of CG's classic "say one thing, do another".

    The "new format" was (is) intended to be more like the OM thing they did.

    I cant speak about the direct details but it seems he wanted to go with a more "take in a bunch of points", "sort", then "disseminate answers". Rinse and repeat.

    There are many road blocks along the way and in part the dissemination methods and frequency seem to be where he is having the trouble (not all on one side or the other) and that is where he is trying to figure out the best new path forward.

    So no not really a "say one thing, do another", more of a "say one thing", "try to do it", and now try to improve it.

    We were never given a reason why the old Q&A's stopped, although we can all guess why as its painfully obvious. My problem is that they have been "working" on this new format with nothing to really come of it. Why pick OM...they only have 802 followers on Twitch and 8.7k on YT...Ahnald has over 15.5k AND HE DOESNT EVEN STREAM ON TWITCH and has 195K on YT. It's like EA releasing some news about a new game by giving it to the Hotdog stand guy on the corner rather than some big game news outlet.

    How many people even watched the OM thing? Is there a reader's digest version or do we have to sit through an entire VOD that didnt interest memy friend, in the first place? How is picking one to the smallest streamers "getting community questions answered in a fun and interesting way as Crumb and I work to broaden the ways in which we engage with the players."?

    People have questions, people want answers, people don't want to have to sift through a thread that is basically the "Ask Kyno" thread or watch some obscure twitch channel. Bring back the old Q&A's. Effective communication with the player base should be built into the schedule, so its quite important.

    As I said I cant speak to the details.

    Many said the old QAs were not effective communication.

    Why not work with other sources? Why wouldnt they want to help any content creator, and not just the big ones? Also as I said, I believe frequency and dissemination were one of the bigger roadblocks he hit.

    Broader would mean more sources, not just the big ones, so that could be part of the plan and it's just going through growing pains.

    People are always going to have questions and want answers, I dont think there is any single way that is going to resolve that situation, and it seems that everyone involved is just trying to help build to a better situation.

    Both you and Ultra keep saying "not just the big ones"....when the last time they worked with Ahnald....who has the biggest audience in SWGOH? Wouldnt you want to start a new series, or whatever CG is calling it, by starting it on the biggest channel to get the most attention, so they can then shine a light on the smaller channels? OM and GWR are getting ALL the love and have been for quite some time...isn't it time to shine on someone else?. CG's hate for Ahnald is real. Like him or not, you can't argue that he has the biggest reach in SWGOH and that reach could be used to inform and possibly bring in new players, especially now since there are new SW mobile games on the horizon.

    I will give Crumb credit for going on CubFanHan's stream in March for the conquest launch to chat, which was nice, wish he did that more often.

    I believe that Doja and Crumb wasted their time (something they say is extremely tight) on a video that only gained 1275 views.

    Not if part of the idea is to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers.

    So choosing one of the smallest CC's to broaden the resources used to disseminate the information/answers is the best way to use your extremely limited time? OM is lucky to have a video go over 3k views. Like I said before, the hate is real, except for OM and GWR, it's laughable at this point. 1275 views is a terrible ROI, especially when they can get 50-100x that elsewhere.

    Choosing more smaller ones would be broadening beyond the ones that have been supported in the past.

    They have made the plan fairly clear about trying to diversify the outlets they use. Broadening wouldnt mean doubling down on the biggest content creator, but maybe I'm wrong.

    I'm no marketing expert, and as always the forums are better at that and making money than the team at CG, but if they really did have any sort of hate towards him, which they dont, then they would be going to all the other top creators and leave him out. That would help pull his base away and actually have some effect at driving up his competition. They are not, because they have no hate, nor are they trying to do anything other than what they have said, which is to reach out using more resources.

    Doubling down on the biggest content creator? They haven't worked with Ahnald in YEARS, and during that time, they have worked with OM and GWR multiple times....so how is that doubling down on the biggest? How is that broadening anything?

    Im no marketing expert either, but with the paths laid out in front of CG, one of which get 100k+ views, while the other would 3-5k at best....and they constantly choose the 3-5k option makes CG no marketing expert either.
    Their collaboration about Conquest...again with OM, only gained 2.8k views. So, it would appear that they are "doubling down" on OM....with very tiny results. How is that BROADENING anything? If they made that video with Ahnald, it would have at least 150k views....at least....but sure, they don't hate him...sure they don't. I can't believe you said that...you cant sincerely believe it. They permabanned his alt account, while KNOWN CHEATERS only get a temp ban....but sure, they don't hate him....sure.

    Their social media presence is trash. They made a couple of posts about the Bad Batch, after over a year of not posting anything.

    Their own page on Big EA Star Wars still has the making of JKR as the latest news....2018 news....

    Their last video on YT is unlocking Darth Revan....2 years ago.

    We only recently got the Dev tracker to be updated on a regular basis, and I would LOVE to see the numbers of people that actually use that site....again, waste of time. (its soo great to know that the unending loyalty bug is still "backlogged" after over two years of it being a thing.)

    One would think that with new Star Wars mobile games on the horizon, not made by EA, that they would care a little more, but as evidenced above....nope.



    Maybe you should be applying for their jobs then, you seem to have this down.

    ...nice response...got no counter points?

    You made no valid points for me to counter I have not already stated.

    You think broadening thier outreach means going to the bigger content creators and not others, got it.

    You seem to have all the numbers and the plan, you really should be applying for the job, you seem to know it all.

    Never claimed to know it all, as I stated, I'm no marketing expert, but I have eyes.
    The problem with your statement is that they only use OM and GWR...but whatever, I can see you are done with this convo, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    You dont like thier plan, it's not what you would do. It doesnt make it a bad plan, it doesnt mean they dont care.
  • Nauros
    4302 posts Member
    Honestly, I have pretty much given up on Q&A at this point. The original format was imo fine, all conveniently in one place and easy to navigate, it only needed to iron out some wrinkles (like maybe gathering the answers over longer time rather than have everyone sit down for a few hours and answer questions). Instead, it seems they decided to scatter it among a bunch of obscure podcasts or video channels, which is really not my cup of tea. So it might as well not exist for me. Unless there is some regularly updated rundown, which seems to me like basically the original format with extra work.
    Revive the stores, the game needs it.
  • Zombefyer
    227 posts Member
    A new faction called 'Jedi Council', which'll have the following characters:
    Grand Master Yoda
    Jedi Master Kenobi
    Jedi Knight Anakin
    Mace Windu
    Ki-Adi Mundi
    Plo Koon
    Shaak Ti
    Kit Fisto
    Eeth Koth
  • Magruffin
    283 posts Member
    edited May 7
    This is getting kinda negative. Maybe this whole situation needs to be re-worded:
    Are there plans to start better utilizing swgoh existing social media accounts (ie.youtube, etc )?
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    On my opinion of it; good on them for trying something new with the Q A, at least theres effort going on.
  • Kyno
    30054 posts Moderator
    Magruffin wrote: »
    This is getting kinda negative. Maybe this whole situation needs to be re-worded:
    Are there plans to start better utilizing swgoh existing social media accounts (ie.youtube, etc )?
    -
    On my opinion of it; good on them for trying something new with the Q A, at least theres effort going on.

    Yes there are plans to use more outlets, Doja is working on an extension of the plan and kinda of a new plan because the original one was running into roadblocks.
  • Zombefyer
    227 posts Member
    212th:

    New Characters: Waxer, Boil, Clone Paratrooper, Gregor, Oddball

    Kit Touch-Up: General Kenobi

    Rework: CC-2224 "Cody"
  • hungsolo
    26 posts Member
    How you guys develop and test kits for new toons. As the pool of toons expands this seems like it would be nigh impossible to make sure new toons aren’t “broken” when they’re released. So like anticipating how new toon kits are going to fit in amongst all the many preexisting toon kits
  • @CG_Doja_Fett Is there any update on the numerous game crashes that happen daily? This is really getting old being robbed of successful battles in GAC,arena (both character and ships) GW,TW and LSGEOTB. I would expect this from MSF not a billion dollar game like SWGOH that has up until recently run buttery smooth. I don’t really care about the few hundred crystals that have been wasted for arena refresh’s I just want that reliability back that each player could count on.
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