Game Update 10/11/2016 (Comments and Questions) ***MEGATHREAD***

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  • Asic
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    This effects a very small percentage of players but it is unfortunate. It forces people to avoid progression by my putting gear you have available. I don't understand it. Also it makes us stare at that red circle.
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    so its OK if some players cant get a daily omega or complete their daily tasks for XP because 95% of other players can do it? that doesnt make it right. its not like its some optional thing, everyone needs the XP and omegas.

    How about the devs dont implement things like this that prevent even 0.0001% of players from physically being able to complete their daily tasks? if its impossible even to 1 person to complete this within the paramaters they setup for the game then it should obviously be changed

    But you CAN do it. You just don't want to because it will be hard.

    I'm really not trying to make this between you and I, but you keep giving me stuff to respond to.
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    Skeletor wrote: »
    Doesn't anyone ever give a straight answer. It says we can level up to 85 WHY can't I level my characters that are @ 80. Makes no sense!

    @Skeletor You must reach player level 81 before you can move your characters up to 81 ... and all the way up to 85. How did you get to level 80 without understanding this? Are you the reincarnation of markusfive?

    It's been so long since the last cap increase that several people had forgotten about earning XP to up your player level. It caught me off guard at first yesterday. It was a relief because I don't have 100MM credits saved up.
  • Quicksilver
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    Brownie wrote: »
    so its OK if some players cant get a daily omega or complete their daily tasks for XP because 95% of other players can do it? that doesnt make it right. its not like its some optional thing, everyone needs the XP and omegas.

    How about the devs dont implement things like this that prevent even 0.0001% of players from physically being able to complete their daily tasks? if its impossible even to 1 person to complete this within the paramaters they setup for the game then it should obviously be changed

    But you CAN do it. You just don't want to because it will be hard.

    I'm really not trying to make this between you and I, but you keep giving me stuff to respond to.

    in case you havent realized yet im not talking about ME specifically anymore, you are absolutely right it'll be annoying for me and will take my resources away from other things, but I have to do it and will do it because I have no choice and ill find a way to make it work, im still at a point where I can squeeze through this

    im saying, generally speaking about the game as a whole, its unfair to implement something like this that even 1 person wont be able to achieve, not because of their own failings but because the game wont allow it, there are people out there who literally have no easy characters left to gear, so expecting them to farm/buy a full stun gun or cuff or furnace or whatever every single day is a little unfair/impossible dont you think?

    I know this is only a very small minority but that doesnt make it OK, if the game gives them no chance its the developers fault not theirs. Sure its easy to hate on those people cause they have loads of characters at high gear levels, but whale or not they still need to be able to get omegas and XP
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    Skeletor wrote: »
    Doesn't anyone ever give a straight answer. It says we can level up to 85 WHY can't I level my characters that are @ 80. Makes no sense!

    @Skeletor You must reach player level 81 before you can move your characters up to 81 ... and all the way up to 85. How did you get to level 80 without understanding this? Are you the reincarnation of markusfive?

    No kidding!!!!!! What don't you understand? I am@ player level 80 and everything is locked. I am not able to get any more XP to proceed to level 81 EVERYTHING IS LOCKED!!!!!
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    Brownie wrote: »
    so its OK if some players cant get a daily omega or complete their daily tasks for XP because 95% of other players can do it? that doesnt make it right. its not like its some optional thing, everyone needs the XP and omegas.

    How about the devs dont implement things like this that prevent even 0.0001% of players from physically being able to complete their daily tasks? if its impossible even to 1 person to complete this within the paramaters they setup for the game then it should obviously be changed

    But you CAN do it. You just don't want to because it will be hard.

    I'm really not trying to make this between you and I, but you keep giving me stuff to respond to.

    in case you havent realized yet im not talking about ME specifically anymore, you are absolutely right it'll be annoying for me and will take my resources away from other things, but I have to do it and will do it because I have no choice and ill find a way to make it work, im still at a point where I can squeeze through this

    im saying, generally speaking about the game as a whole, its unfair to implement something like this that even 1 person wont be able to achieve, not because of their own failings but because the game wont allow it, there are people out there who literally have no easy characters left to gear, so expecting them to farm a full stun gun or cuff or furnace or whatever every single day is a little unfair/impossible dont you think?

    I know this is only a very small minority but that doesnt make it OK, if the game gives them no chance its the developers fault not theirs. Sure its easy to hate on those people cause they have loads of characters at high gear levels, but whale or not they still need to be able to get omegas and XP

    Thats fair and why I offered the solution to change it to add mods as well. I think that will satisfy everyone as much as is possible.
  • Quicksilver
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    edited October 2016
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    Brownie wrote: »
    Brownie wrote: »
    so its OK if some players cant get a daily omega or complete their daily tasks for XP because 95% of other players can do it? that doesnt make it right. its not like its some optional thing, everyone needs the XP and omegas.

    How about the devs dont implement things like this that prevent even 0.0001% of players from physically being able to complete their daily tasks? if its impossible even to 1 person to complete this within the paramaters they setup for the game then it should obviously be changed

    But you CAN do it. You just don't want to because it will be hard.

    I'm really not trying to make this between you and I, but you keep giving me stuff to respond to.

    in case you havent realized yet im not talking about ME specifically anymore, you are absolutely right it'll be annoying for me and will take my resources away from other things, but I have to do it and will do it because I have no choice and ill find a way to make it work, im still at a point where I can squeeze through this

    im saying, generally speaking about the game as a whole, its unfair to implement something like this that even 1 person wont be able to achieve, not because of their own failings but because the game wont allow it, there are people out there who literally have no easy characters left to gear, so expecting them to farm a full stun gun or cuff or furnace or whatever every single day is a little unfair/impossible dont you think?

    I know this is only a very small minority but that doesnt make it OK, if the game gives them no chance its the developers fault not theirs. Sure its easy to hate on those people cause they have loads of characters at high gear levels, but whale or not they still need to be able to get omegas and XP

    Thats fair and why I offered the solution to change it to add mods as well. I think that will satisfy everyone as much as is possible.

    whether its your solution which would probably work, or another solution, or removing it entirely, they should really look at this further like they did last time, if it was enough of a problem to remove before its definitely enough of a problem now with gear requirements getting more insane with each cap increase

    I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they are going to do about this, if anything
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    @Skeletor you need to see a specialist.
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    Brownie wrote: »
    Heres my issue with what everyone is saying here. You are asking the devs to remove something that is beneficial to probably 95% of the player base simply because it is not beneficial to you. Maybe something smaller for those level 80 and above. Maybe like 70-75%.

    And some are asking for the removal simply because you're OCD? Really?

    This is sort of like asking for a nerf because you don't have those toons or can't beat them. Or wanting an easier/harder GW because it doesn't suit your needs perfectly. Or wanting an event to be easier/harder because it was too hard/easy.

    I am sorry you didn't farm rebels, you'll just have to wait til next time to beat the event. I know its a bit extreme, but I still think its a fair comparison. I am sorry you geared all your toons up to G5+. You are just going to have to work harder to meet the requirements that everyone else has to.

    All that being said, I mentioned an easy fix above.

    Its the only thing that requires you to act counter to normal gameplay. To farm garbage characters to dole out a piece of gear to one day at a time rather than just equipping everything you can like a normal person would. Its a stupid activity they rightfully removed. Stick its rewards in something else if you want, but get rid of it for 80+ again.

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    So now I have to equip a piece of gear EVERY DAY to get th edaily omega award???? ****!! Almost impossible for higher level players. Think it's time to give this game a rest.
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    I see it as more XP.

    Same. And I have like 5 toons at level 1 that can easily be upgraded to put **** gear on.

    EDIT: 6 toons, Dooku, RP, Nebit, Chirpa, Koon, and Fett. All level 1. There is plenty of junk to put on them. If all else fails, I can unlock Ugnuaght and Mob Enforcer with a shipment a piece and gear them.

    Yeah, me too. I have many toons who have gearable slots that I haven't done yet that I can now do 1 day at a time to earn achievements.

    Heck, I just unlocked Raid Han and leveled him to 50 and just geared 1 piece of gear level 1 to satisfy my daily gear up requirement. So I have tons of easy days ahead to complete that achievement. :)

    Its actually stunning to me that there are people out there with a whole roster of toons that are at least gear level 5. I mean, I am not a whale but I'm far from F2P and I've been playing the game religiously since February and I still have many toons that are low levels and/or gear levels.
  • Naw
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    Naw wrote: »
    @Nikoms565 You're literally never happy. You must be so much fun at parties.

    They've already said Teebo's fix requires a lot of work due to the way stealth mechanics work. You could always learn to code and get a job at CG and make fixing Teebo's stealth your
    [...]

    Moral of the story is this.. Take responsibility for being an entitled weirdo instead of running online to voice your displeasure at every little thing that YOU don't like.

    <3

    They made a skill, but cannot code it? That's brilliant! Hey, everyone look, it's a fanboi!!

    Let me guess, you're an amazing programmer that has never had a single bug in your code?

    I could teach my son to code in the time it has taken for them to fix Teebo. Several easy workarounds have already been suggested many times.

    This is just weak.
    I'm not a "fanboi" (which by the way, using that term makes me question if you like men),

    What this does is just showing your age. I won't hold it against you, fanboi.
    I just understand that there are many variables involved in coding and you can't account for all of them. Basically what I'm saying is, I'm smart and you aren't.

    I can see that, you managed to spell smart correctly.
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    Yes it is a joke every character i have is at gear 8 in preperation for the last tournament. every one needs at least 1 50 piece gear. so now i have to farm a character i was not going to just to be able to equip a piece of gear to complete the daily. even then i am losing out on the omega mats until i am able to unlock a character which could be days away. on top of that all of europe lose out on the double GW drops on the day where most done up to 24 nodes for the daily activity. try making it fair for everyone this game just gets worse with every update.
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    I gotta give it to the devs this time. I thought we would all jump to lvl 81 after the update (since we had maxed xp at lvl 80), but they reseted the xp! Imo that was a clever move, everyone starts at the same point, grinding xp at a low pace, which gives time to save some dime for the lvling up! Seemed to me a new credit crunch would happen, but they really nailed on this one.

    We usually complain about a lot of things and the devs, usually because of some mess up. But we must also have the wisdom to compliment them for a well done job. Cheers!
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    Naw wrote: »
    Naw wrote: »
    @Nikoms565 You're literally never happy. You must be so much fun at parties.

    They've already said Teebo's fix requires a lot of work due to the way stealth mechanics work. You could always learn to code and get a job at CG and make fixing Teebo's stealth your
    [...]

    Moral of the story is this.. Take responsibility for being an entitled weirdo instead of running online to voice your displeasure at every little thing that YOU don't like.

    <3

    They made a skill, but cannot code it? That's brilliant! Hey, everyone look, it's a fanboi!!

    Let me guess, you're an amazing programmer that has never had a single bug in your code?

    I could teach my son to code in the time it has taken for them to fix Teebo. Several easy workarounds have already been suggested many times.

    This is just weak.
    I'm not a "fanboi" (which by the way, using that term makes me question if you like men),

    What this does is just showing your age. I won't hold it against you, fanboi.
    I just understand that there are many variables involved in coding and you can't account for all of them. Basically what I'm saying is, I'm smart and you aren't.

    I can see that, you managed to spell smart correctly.

    Verbal pvp. Lol
  • tRRRey
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    The0n3 wrote: »
    I gotta give it to the devs this time. I thought we would all jump to lvl 81 after the update (since we had maxed xp at lvl 80), but they reseted the xp! Imo that was a clever move, everyone starts at the same point, grinding xp at a low pace, which gives time to save some dime for the lvling up! Seemed to me a new credit crunch would happen, but they really nailed on this one.

    We usually complain about a lot of things and the devs, usually because of some mess up. But we must also have the wisdom to compliment them for a well done job. Cheers!

    How exactly would we all jump to 81? You should know by now that level cap increases are just a poor excuse for another grind
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    tRRRey wrote: »
    The0n3 wrote: »
    I gotta give it to the devs this time. I thought we would all jump to lvl 81 after the update (since we had maxed xp at lvl 80), but they reseted the xp! Imo that was a clever move, everyone starts at the same point, grinding xp at a low pace, which gives time to save some dime for the lvling up! Seemed to me a new credit crunch would happen, but they really nailed on this one.

    We usually complain about a lot of things and the devs, usually because of some mess up. But we must also have the wisdom to compliment them for a well done job. Cheers!

    How exactly would we all jump to 81? You should know by now that level cap increases are just a poor excuse for another grind

    He thought that after getting to lvl 80 we gained exp all the way to lvl 81 and stopped right before that because we were at max level.
    Actually, right after hitting 80 you were at max and didn't gain another xp
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    Fwiw, the easiest explanation to the return of the daily gear is that it was coded something like
    if (level==MAX_LEVEL) skipDailyGear();
    Thus they didn't reintroduce it, it just happened to be back because of the way it was coded and the new cap. It will certainly be gone when you reach level 85 unless they decide to fix it earlier because of the whales.
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    Wicket wrote: »
    Some times I wonder if these forums are real. People are seriously furious over a line of text that they can chose to glance at or not and have to option to exclude....

    Secondly you knew an update was coming people posted to hold on to your energy and refreshes each day until the launch.... you didn't do it now you are like 5% of one level behind.... get over it.

    The whiners on these forums that provide 0 constructive feedback are terrible for the community and make the forums an impossible read. When the threads get merged and 60% of the comments have 0 value no one takes the time to get through that.....

    +1!
  • KyloRey
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    LynnYoda wrote: »
    Yes it is a joke every character i have is at gear 8 in preperation for the last tournament. every one needs at least 1 50 piece gear. so now i have to farm a character i was not going to just to be able to equip a piece of gear to complete the daily. even then i am losing out on the omega mats until i am able to unlock a character which could be days away. on top of that all of europe lose out on the double GW drops on the day where most done up to 24 nodes for the daily activity. try making it fair for everyone this game just gets worse with every update.

    You're saying there isn't 1 toon you have enough shards to activate that you can't level up to level 1 so you can put a piece of gear on him?

    Not one character you have a long-term goal to promote that you have been farming the shards of, but haven't activated?

    If not, then you have an impressive collection.

    For me, I just got Raid Han yesterday and so I activated him and leveled him up and just put 1 piece of gear on him. It will take a long time to gear him 1 piece at a time and should allow me to do the daily achievement for quite some time.
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    tRRRey wrote: »
    The0n3 wrote: »
    I gotta give it to the devs this time. I thought we would all jump to lvl 81 after the update (since we had maxed xp at lvl 80), but they reseted the xp! Imo that was a clever move, everyone starts at the same point, grinding xp at a low pace, which gives time to save some dime for the lvling up! Seemed to me a new credit crunch would happen, but they really nailed on this one.

    We usually complain about a lot of things and the devs, usually because of some mess up. But we must also have the wisdom to compliment them for a well done job. Cheers!

    How exactly would we all jump to 81? You should know by now that level cap increases are just a poor excuse for another grind

    Cause we all had maxed xp at lvl 80, so i assumed we would all start with the full xp barr and just take 1xp to jump to 81 from the start... That would cause a huge credit crunch... But they were smart on this... I rather have on this a excuse to grind lvls again other than a cash grab forcing ppl to spend crystals into lvling up toons... If so, the whales would have a huge jump start, but like this we all start at the same place. That's better, imho
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    This thread is hilarious btw.

    Teebo should be fixable, but I don't expect a fix anytime soon. I *do* code and they either they haven't committed any time to it or they totally botched the implementation of stealth...I lean toward the latter actually. I've been following the Teebo issue for a while (always wanted the ewok squad) and everything they've said sounds like a coder realized they made a really big mistake in step 1 of 500 and they haven't figured out how to fix it without nuking the system.

    The mega-whale gear problem makes me laugh really hard. First, I think it's a dumb requirement in the first place, but nothing's perfect. That said, (a) who would gear up ugnaught and co. in the first place? (b) I kept several of my toons ungeared because I figured this would come back, I'm not sorry you didn't have the foresight to do the same (c) if you have a 7-star grievous, I'm not going to feel sorry you can't do the daily activities...ever (d) they're going to change it to add a gear or a mod eventually. You can survive the 1-ish week until it gets fixed. You don't need to have a temper tantrum.
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    @Skeletor you need to see a specialist.

    @Skeletor I hear there's a Nigerian Prince who can fix it. You just have to give him your bank account number. It may take a couple weeks, but he should be able to get you there one level at a time. lol
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    Lexe0815 wrote: »
    Where has all my collected XP left since i'm lvl80 for a very long time now??? Ah ok... gone to nowhere - maybe to EA heaven... so i now have to collect XP until lvl85 like a beginner... cooooool!!!

    new to gaming are we?
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    So my take on this thread...

    Everyone has lost the ability to look at the raid and see its status.

    No one has a garbage character nor can they unlock a character to put gear on.

    People actually expect to have saved XP after reaching level 80.

    Wow...
  • Quicksilver
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    This thread is hilarious btw.

    The mega-whale gear problem makes me laugh really hard. First, I think it's a dumb requirement in the first place, but nothing's perfect. That said, (a) who would gear up ugnaught and co. in the first place? (b) I kept several of my toons ungeared because I figured this would come back, I'm not sorry you didn't have the foresight to do the same (c) if you have a 7-star grievous, I'm not going to feel sorry you can't do the daily activities...ever (d) they're going to change it to add a gear or a mod eventually. You can survive the 1-ish week until it gets fixed. You don't need to have a temper tantrum.

    people have been working on ugnaught because his anti droid abilities will be helpful in the new raid, why should people be punished for being proactive and trying to get ahead, this game forces people to be proactive or they'll never get anywhere, at least not if they want to be competitive. I think most people assumed that when they removed this dumb daily the last time it was because they realized its not fair to all players and that was the end of it and it wouldnt be returning

    why should you not feel bad for someone who has a 7* grievous just because they have a 7* grievous? if they have a 7* grievous they are automatically a whale and shouldnt get omegas or XP? newsflash, grievous is fully farmable even to F2P. I farmed my grievous from SCRATCH and it took me 6 months, its pretty ignorant to assume anybody who has him 7* is a whale


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    Ing256 wrote: »
    Fwiw, the easiest explanation to the return of the daily gear is that it was coded something like
    if (level==MAX_LEVEL) skipDailyGear();
    Thus they didn't reintroduce it, it just happened to be back because of the way it was coded and the new cap. It will certainly be gone when you reach level 85 unless they decide to fix it earlier because of the whales.

    if (level >= 80) skipDailyGear();

    One and done.
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    Ing256 wrote: »
    Fwiw, the easiest explanation to the return of the daily gear is that it was coded something like
    if (level==MAX_LEVEL) skipDailyGear();
    Thus they didn't reintroduce it, it just happened to be back because of the way it was coded and the new cap. It will certainly be gone when you reach level 85 unless they decide to fix it earlier because of the whales.

    if (level >= 80) skipDailyGear();

    One and done.

    Sure, obv they can fix it, just saying it's not something they added, it's something that happened
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    This thread is hilarious btw.

    The mega-whale gear problem makes me laugh really hard. First, I think it's a dumb requirement in the first place, but nothing's perfect. That said, (a) who would gear up ugnaught and co. in the first place? (b) I kept several of my toons ungeared because I figured this would come back, I'm not sorry you didn't have the foresight to do the same (c) if you have a 7-star grievous, I'm not going to feel sorry you can't do the daily activities...ever (d) they're going to change it to add a gear or a mod eventually. You can survive the 1-ish week until it gets fixed. You don't need to have a temper tantrum.

    people have been working on ugnaught because his anti droid abilities will be helpful in the new raid, why should people be punished for being proactive and trying to get ahead, this game forces people to be proactive or they'll never get anywhere, at least not if they want to be competitive

    why should you not feel bad for someone who has a 7* grievous just because they have a 7* grievous? if they have a 7* grievous they are automatically a whale and shouldnt get omegas or XP? newsflash, grievous is fully farmable even to F2P. I farmed my grievous from SCRATCH and it took me 6 months, its pretty ignorant to assume anybody who has him 7* is a whale


    The lols continue to roll. "Ugnaught and co" means all of the useless characters. Ugnaught is the standard bearer to me, but you could go with CUP, Guardian, Enforcer, or any of the others. Sure, get them to the right star count, but there's no reason to gear them though.

    I know Grievous could be F2P. I looked into getting him. You have to spend about 6 months not advancing other characters. Who has a roster deep enough to afford to do that? Not a F2P. Do you have a 7-Star chromium-exclusive character? Probably not F2P. You can't tell me you haven't spent money on the game. That is laughable (literally I'm laughing).

    PS: This is written lightheartedly. There's no need to go into name calling.
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    Ing256 wrote: »
    Ing256 wrote: »
    Fwiw, the easiest explanation to the return of the daily gear is that it was coded something like
    if (level==MAX_LEVEL) skipDailyGear();
    Thus they didn't reintroduce it, it just happened to be back because of the way it was coded and the new cap. It will certainly be gone when you reach level 85 unless they decide to fix it earlier because of the whales.

    if (level >= 80) skipDailyGear();

    One and done.

    Sure, obv they can fix it, just saying it's not something they added, it's something that happened

    I agree but I'm so cynical though that I assume higher ups in CG/EA told the devs to leave it as is.
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