So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
My point exactly, also if they are so set in giving her only a rebel tag then why not give her a cool leadership ability for all allies. In the Star Wars Rebels animated tv series she is seen taking the charge and act as a leader many times. Not to sound ungrateful because i truly am for finally being able to play with her in the game but considering how iconic she is i feel like she should have a leadership ability.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
My point exactly, also if they are so set in giving her only a rebel tag then why not give her a cool leadership ability for all allies. In the Star Wars Rebels animated tv series she is seen taking the charge and act as a leader many times. Not to sound ungrateful because i truly am for finally being able to play with her in the game but considering how iconic she is i feel like she should have a leadership ability.
Because Padawan Ahsoka is a leader, but adult Fulcrum Ahsoka isn't
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
No, I'm saying if she is doing all the same thing other Jedi are doing, then she's a Jedi regardless of what she says. It actually all comes down to what LucasFilms thinks. I actually agree with them that Asajj isn't a sith and that Savage is, but the Ahsoka thing I like to argue. I know it won't change anything, but it's still mildly fun to discuss.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
My point exactly, also if they are so set in giving her only a rebel tag then why not give her a cool leadership ability for all allies. In the Star Wars Rebels animated tv series she is seen taking the charge and act as a leader many times. Not to sound ungrateful because i truly am for finally being able to play with her in the game but considering how iconic she is i feel like she should have a leadership ability.
Because Padawan Ahsoka is a leader, but adult Fulcrum Ahsoka isn't
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
No, I'm saying if she is doing all the same thing other Jedi are doing, then she's a Jedi regardless of what she says. It actually all comes down to what LucasFilms thinks. I actually agree with them that Asajj isn't a sith and that Savage is, but the Ahsoka thing I like to argue. I know it won't change anything, but it's still mildly fun to discuss.
You have seen the show right? How is she not a leader?
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
My point exactly, also if they are so set in giving her only a rebel tag then why not give her a cool leadership ability for all allies. In the Star Wars Rebels animated tv series she is seen taking the charge and act as a leader many times. Not to sound ungrateful because i truly am for finally being able to play with her in the game but considering how iconic she is i feel like she should have a leadership ability.
Because Padawan Ahsoka is a leader, but adult Fulcrum Ahsoka isn't
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
No, I'm saying if she is doing all the same thing other Jedi are doing, then she's a Jedi regardless of what she says. It actually all comes down to what LucasFilms thinks. I actually agree with them that Asajj isn't a sith and that Savage is, but the Ahsoka thing I like to argue. I know it won't change anything, but it's still mildly fun to discuss.
You have seen the show right? How is she not a leader?
It was a joke, because the current padawan version has a leader ability.
Hm. She sounds interesting, but I can't really think of a team she'd fit in. I guess chirrut or GK will work well with her unique. Other than that, how do you set up whirlwind properly?
How bout zCassian, Chaze and R2? As long as R2 is faster than Ashoka she could have a 7 hit whirlwind after the first absorb. Full TM from the absorb too so really a 7 hit on the first turn. Four unique buffs at the start from cassian, R2 puts on stealth, foresight and advantage, and Baze has retribution (taunt isn't copied from what I hear) so that's actually 8 buffs. Add chirruts tenacity up and HOT then that's potentially the full power whirlwind. Only problem with that team is no leader skill lol.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
It would be cool, but I was expecting it this way after she so adamantly, and repeatedly stated she isn't. The Jedi are effectively a religious order that she rejected. I think you're conflating a force user with a Jedi. She is still certainly a force user, and a grey one at that.
Ezra and Kanan are trying to live by the code of that order. Luke tried to rebuild that order. But Ahsoka left it. I could see an argument to be made either way, but the bottom line is that the people with creative control over SW cannon most likely made the decision that say she isn't.
And I for one look forward to episode 8 hopefully exploring the idea of old Luke seeing the force outside of a specific dogma as the Jedi do.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
It would be cool, but I was expecting it this way after she so adamantly, and repeatedly stated she isn't. The Jedi are effectively a religious order that she rejected. I think you're conflating a force user with a Jedi. She is still certainly a force user, and a grey one at that.
Ezra and Kanan are trying to live by the code of that order. Luke tried to rebuild that order. But Ahsoka left it. I could see an argument to be made either way, but the bottom line is that the people with creative control over SW cannon most likely made the decision that say she isn't.
And I for one look forward to episode 8 hopefully exploring the idea of old Luke seeing the force outside of a specific dogma as the Jedi do.
Technically she isn't but practically she still is in some small manner. She left the Jedi Order but she still follows the Jedi Code to some degree. These are the reasons i think the devs could have made an exception and add a jedi tag to her Fulcrum version as well.
I don't know if someone else made that decision for them or not but after listening to the podcast it seemed to me like they did indeed have a choice. Their response to why does she have only a rebel tag was because she left the Jedi Order which is why i'm stressing so much because Ezra was never a part of the Jedi Order yet he has the Jedi tag.
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
Shes not a Jedi.
Made that VERY clear in season 2 finale
It's funny when people cry about Clone Wars and Rebels and don't watch the shows because they are cartoons and then post things that contradict the canon. It's like the people that refuse to ackowledge Maul didn't die at the end of TPM.
Well, stopped reading at page 7, everyone says the same than I think, from a dark side lover, sorry to see that so many rebels are coming out on an empire pass, it's just a joke, and not only that, now ahsoka will be immune to zvader, WOW THANKS!!!! I just hope Zvader will R. I. P. And can't believe he got finished with whole empire faction pass occurred, just so sarcastic. Very disappointed and well, waiting 10 more days to see what comes on 25th but without any hopes that this will get any better, **** rebels...
Well, stopped reading at page 7, everyone says the same than I think, from a dark side lover, sorry to see that so many rebels are coming out on an empire pass, it's just a joke, and not only that, now ahsoka will be immune to zvader, WOW THANKS!!!! I just hope Zvader will R. I. P. And can't believe he got finished with whole empire faction pass occurred, just so sarcastic. Very disappointed and well, waiting 10 more days to see what comes on 25th but without any hopes that this will get any better, **** rebels...
Ahsoka seems to be the rebel version of Nihilus as if they weren't op enough and here i thought how great of addition she will be for the jedi faction but nope no jedi tag because she left the Jedi Order...smh
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
It would be cool, but I was expecting it this way after she so adamantly, and repeatedly stated she isn't. The Jedi are effectively a religious order that she rejected. I think you're conflating a force user with a Jedi. She is still certainly a force user, and a grey one at that.
Ezra and Kanan are trying to live by the code of that order. Luke tried to rebuild that order. But Ahsoka left it. I could see an argument to be made either way, but the bottom line is that the people with creative control over SW cannon most likely made the decision that say she isn't.
And I for one look forward to episode 8 hopefully exploring the idea of old Luke seeing the force outside of a specific dogma as the Jedi do.
Technically she isn't but practically she still is in some small manner. She left the Jedi Order but she still follows the Jedi Code to some degree. These are the reasons i think the devs could have made an exception and add a jedi tag to her Fulcrum version as well.
I don't know if someone else made that decision for them or not but after listening to the podcast it seemed to me like they did indeed have a choice. Their response to why does she have only a rebel tag was because she left the Jedi Order which is why i'm stressing so much because Ezra was never a part of the Jedi Order yet he has the Jedi tag.
Kanan was in the order officially when it existed. He was a padawan, but eventually was knighted in a force vision in a Jedi temple. And he took Ezra as his apprentice. That's about as Jedi as you can possibly get once the order had been decimated.
Ahsoka left the order, and makes no further attempt to have anything to do with it. She is a good person, but that isn't the same as, "following the Jedi code to some degree." The Jedi don't hold a monopoly on the light side of the force, or doing good deeds.
It's interesting that in the same episode that Ahsoka feels uncomfortable at opening the Jedi temple Kanan is knighted in a force vision, and grandmaster Yoda speaks to Ezra through the force. Yoda says nothing to her, and no force vision asks her to come back. But she does feel Vader through the force.
Also in the same episode where she says, "I am no Jedi" there were some telling moments. That comment was promoted by her swearing revenge on Vader (not realizing it's Anakin yet), and Vader calling her on it. He says, "that is not the Jedi way." Both in word, and deed she wasn't a Jedi. And Maul knew it as well. He called Kanan and Ezra Jedi, but in the same breath he mockingly called her, "a part timer." Not an official label of her still being part Jedi, but more of a pejorative to get under her skin.
And as far as the devs part in it, it sounded to me that they were explaining the reason why the tag is the way it is, not making a definitive statement that it's their decision. Unless something drastic has changed that job is out of their hands. They have stated that recently, and specifically. But their job is defending that decision which is what it sounded like. Even though some who love Ahsoka like yourself will be cut to the heart by that.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Two can play that game. Without the Empire, Star Wars wouldn't exist because what would they be rebelling against?
So they justified Ahsoka Fulcrum not having a jedi tag by saying she left the jedi order, well snap then why does Ezra or Luke for that matter have a jedi tag when the Jedi Order wasn't even existent anymore!? This is really disappointing and seems like a really poor excuse not to add a jedi tag on her.
She literally says "I'm no Jedi"
I'd argue she was incorrect when she said that.
The order betrayed her trust and she wants to distance herself from them, sure. But she still was trained by Jedi and follows the same reformed Jedi belief that Luke, Obiwan, and Yoda do in the OT. She can deny it all agree wants, she's still a Jedi.
That's my point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
It would be cool, but I was expecting it this way after she so adamantly, and repeatedly stated she isn't. The Jedi are effectively a religious order that she rejected. I think you're conflating a force user with a Jedi. She is still certainly a force user, and a grey one at that.
Ezra and Kanan are trying to live by the code of that order. Luke tried to rebuild that order. But Ahsoka left it. I could see an argument to be made either way, but the bottom line is that the people with creative control over SW cannon most likely made the decision that say she isn't.
And I for one look forward to episode 8 hopefully exploring the idea of old Luke seeing the force outside of a specific dogma as the Jedi do.
Technically she isn't but practically she still is in some small manner. She left the Jedi Order but she still follows the Jedi Code to some degree. These are the reasons i think the devs could have made an exception and add a jedi tag to her Fulcrum version as well.
I don't know if someone else made that decision for them or not but after listening to the podcast it seemed to me like they did indeed have a choice. Their response to why does she have only a rebel tag was because she left the Jedi Order which is why i'm stressing so much because Ezra was never a part of the Jedi Order yet he has the Jedi tag.
Kanan was in the order officially when it existed. He was a padawan, but eventually was knighted in a force vision in a Jedi temple. And he took Ezra as his apprentice. That's about as Jedi as you can possibly get once the order had been decimated.
Ahsoka left the order, and makes no further attempt to have anything to do with it. She is a good person, but that isn't the same as, "following the Jedi code to some degree." The Jedi don't hold a monopoly on the light side of the force, or doing good deeds.
It's interesting that in the same episode that Ahsoka feels uncomfortable at opening the Jedi temple Kanan is knighted in a force vision, and grandmaster Yoda speaks to Ezra through the force. Yoda says nothing to her, and no force vision asks her to come back. But she does feel Vader through the force.
Also in the same episode where she says, "I am no Jedi" there were some telling moments. That comment was promoted by her swearing revenge on Vader (not realizing it's Anakin yet), and Vader calling her on it. He says, "that is not the Jedi way." Both in word, and deed she wasn't a Jedi. And Maul knew it as well. He called Kanan and Ezra Jedi, but in the same breath he mockingly called her, "a part timer." Not an official label of her still being part Jedi, but more of a pejorative to get under her skin.
And as far as the devs part in it, it sounded to me that they were explaining the reason why the tag is the way it is, not making a definitive statement that it's their decision. Unless something drastic has changed that job is out of their hands. They have stated that recently, and specifically. But their job is defending that decision which is what it sounded like. Even though some who love Ahsoka like yourself will be cut to the heart by that.
Well then i guess Mace Windu stopped being a jedi too when he was about to strike Palpatine down in cold blood. So did Anakin when he fell in love with Padme leaving her pregnant. Both of them broke the Jedi Code right so the devs should remove their jedi tags.
Nah just kidding but the point is that even though she was no longer a Jedi because she left the order and stopped following the code for the sake of synergies / gameplay she could have still been in the game. I mean it's not like they would have committed a a major crime to the lore considering the fact that she was once a Jedi.
Maybe i don't know come up with a new tag which will allow her to benefit from all the Jedi leadership abilities because right now it really sucks that she doesn't. Same situation with Ventress she's not considered a sith but would work really great under a sith leadership if only she could benefit from it.
Just remembered that her younger self also has the nightsister tag simply because in the Star Wars The Clone Wars animated series she fought alongside Ventress. Judging by that i guess it shouldn't be a problem for her Fulcrum version to have a Jedi tag because in the Star Wars Rebels animated series she teams up with Jedis.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
when will thes people stop with all the rebels smh this is way out of hand at this point. i will say that ahsoka is a fan fav though any one who says other wise is either ignorant or has been living under a rock just because you dont like her doesn't mean others dont and there is A LOT of people that like her. im all so seeing people who seem to think just cause she was on rebels means shes a bad character well guess who else is on rebels? thrawn, i can all so see the "ahsoka should have a jedi tag" threads coming from a mile away lmao she said her self she is no jedi and even left the jedi order it is perfectly reasonable to not give her a jedi tag.
as far as tarkins rework gos there is 2 problems here: first one is they didn't give him a team cleansing ability really missed opportunity. 2nd one is his new leader ability is ABSOLUTE TRASH i mean defense down? really? is this some sort of bad joke? now what i will say is im seeing people say hes still useless but this is FAR from the truth he has some serious potential to do monster damage now so i think he will be useful but my god i still cant get over his new leader ability just so bad i want to puke honestly.
The Empire users of this game deserve and apology.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
What a point. It clearly has a deep meaning and a lot to add to the argument.
Ahsoka without the jedi tag.. was disappointing but it makes sense. Now, erza without the jedi tag would have made sense too. Anyway i don't care that much, i have bigger expectations or concerns with other factions (empire, separatists,etc.).
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My point exactly, also if they are so set in giving her only a rebel tag then why not give her a cool leadership ability for all allies. In the Star Wars Rebels animated tv series she is seen taking the charge and act as a leader many times. Not to sound ungrateful because i truly am for finally being able to play with her in the game but considering how iconic she is i feel like she should have a leadership ability.
So you're saying once a Jedi always a Jedi then? Not like it matters what any of us think. She's not a Jedi in the eyes of the devs just like ventress isn't a sith.
Its not Thrawn?
Well at least ill be saving money this week
The devs don't get a say. Part of the issue with tags is that it's apparently a long drawn out process to get tags approved or changed. They get told what tags they are allowed to put on characters by the almighty mouse.
No, I'm saying if she is doing all the same thing other Jedi are doing, then she's a Jedi regardless of what she says. It actually all comes down to what LucasFilms thinks. I actually agree with them that Asajj isn't a sith and that Savage is, but the Ahsoka thing I like to argue. I know it won't change anything, but it's still mildly fun to discuss.
You have seen the show right? How is she not a leader?
Her not being able to take advantage of any Jedi specific leadership ability is kinda of a let down to say the least.
It was a joke, because the current padawan version has a leader ability.
Oh i see the sarcasm is strong with this one!
How bout zCassian, Chaze and R2? As long as R2 is faster than Ashoka she could have a 7 hit whirlwind after the first absorb. Full TM from the absorb too so really a 7 hit on the first turn. Four unique buffs at the start from cassian, R2 puts on stealth, foresight and advantage, and Baze has retribution (taunt isn't copied from what I hear) so that's actually 8 buffs. Add chirruts tenacity up and HOT then that's potentially the full power whirlwind. Only problem with that team is no leader skill lol.
Why? Without Rebels, Star Wars would never exist. We would only have The Empire, Vader would be completely bored but he'd be alive. The Empire would be thriving across the galaxy just having to put some Hutts in line every once in a while.
Rebels are the focus of 4 of the 8 movies.
It would be cool, but I was expecting it this way after she so adamantly, and repeatedly stated she isn't. The Jedi are effectively a religious order that she rejected. I think you're conflating a force user with a Jedi. She is still certainly a force user, and a grey one at that.
Ezra and Kanan are trying to live by the code of that order. Luke tried to rebuild that order. But Ahsoka left it. I could see an argument to be made either way, but the bottom line is that the people with creative control over SW cannon most likely made the decision that say she isn't.
And I for one look forward to episode 8 hopefully exploring the idea of old Luke seeing the force outside of a specific dogma as the Jedi do.
We got 99 Rebels, but Jedi Luke ain't one.
Shes not a Jedi.
Made that VERY clear in season 2 finale
He was quoting the movie This is Spinal Tap.
Technically she isn't but practically she still is in some small manner. She left the Jedi Order but she still follows the Jedi Code to some degree. These are the reasons i think the devs could have made an exception and add a jedi tag to her Fulcrum version as well.
I don't know if someone else made that decision for them or not but after listening to the podcast it seemed to me like they did indeed have a choice. Their response to why does she have only a rebel tag was because she left the Jedi Order which is why i'm stressing so much because Ezra was never a part of the Jedi Order yet he has the Jedi tag.
It's funny when people cry about Clone Wars and Rebels and don't watch the shows because they are cartoons and then post things that contradict the canon. It's like the people that refuse to ackowledge Maul didn't die at the end of TPM.
Ahsoka seems to be the rebel version of Nihilus as if they weren't op enough and here i thought how great of addition she will be for the jedi faction but nope no jedi tag because she left the Jedi Order...smh
Kanan was in the order officially when it existed. He was a padawan, but eventually was knighted in a force vision in a Jedi temple. And he took Ezra as his apprentice. That's about as Jedi as you can possibly get once the order had been decimated.
Ahsoka left the order, and makes no further attempt to have anything to do with it. She is a good person, but that isn't the same as, "following the Jedi code to some degree." The Jedi don't hold a monopoly on the light side of the force, or doing good deeds.
It's interesting that in the same episode that Ahsoka feels uncomfortable at opening the Jedi temple Kanan is knighted in a force vision, and grandmaster Yoda speaks to Ezra through the force. Yoda says nothing to her, and no force vision asks her to come back. But she does feel Vader through the force.
Also in the same episode where she says, "I am no Jedi" there were some telling moments. That comment was promoted by her swearing revenge on Vader (not realizing it's Anakin yet), and Vader calling her on it. He says, "that is not the Jedi way." Both in word, and deed she wasn't a Jedi. And Maul knew it as well. He called Kanan and Ezra Jedi, but in the same breath he mockingly called her, "a part timer." Not an official label of her still being part Jedi, but more of a pejorative to get under her skin.
And as far as the devs part in it, it sounded to me that they were explaining the reason why the tag is the way it is, not making a definitive statement that it's their decision. Unless something drastic has changed that job is out of their hands. They have stated that recently, and specifically. But their job is defending that decision which is what it sounded like. Even though some who love Ahsoka like yourself will be cut to the heart by that.
I can already hear the sound of whale drool hitting the floor.
Well then i guess Mace Windu stopped being a jedi too when he was about to strike Palpatine down in cold blood. So did Anakin when he fell in love with Padme leaving her pregnant. Both of them broke the Jedi Code right so the devs should remove their jedi tags.
Nah just kidding but the point is that even though she was no longer a Jedi because she left the order and stopped following the code for the sake of synergies / gameplay she could have still been in the game. I mean it's not like they would have committed a a major crime to the lore considering the fact that she was once a Jedi.
Maybe i don't know come up with a new tag which will allow her to benefit from all the Jedi leadership abilities because right now it really sucks that she doesn't. Same situation with Ventress she's not considered a sith but would work really great under a sith leadership if only she could benefit from it.
Just remembered that her younger self also has the nightsister tag simply because in the Star Wars The Clone Wars animated series she fought alongside Ventress. Judging by that i guess it shouldn't be a problem for her Fulcrum version to have a Jedi tag because in the Star Wars Rebels animated series she teams up with Jedis.
There problem solved!
Who is the character that appeared in all the first 7 movies and is mentioned in the 8th?Hint, he sure isn't a rebel.
No matter what anybody say SW was never about the rebels, it was a modern saga about the Skywalker family, about the fight between light and dark ( jedi vs sith, rebels vs empire, resistance vs FO)
Anyway even if the rebellion would have been the focal point of SW, though it wasn't, this is still a game. And when the people that make this game announced in several different occasions the pass, when it was literally said "The empire will rise" players believed them, so they invested in that faction. And when the only good toons that came out of that pass were actually from a different faction, the strongest faction as it were, the faction the Empire needed help against in the first place, then apologies is at least what people that believed them should receive.
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as far as tarkins rework gos there is 2 problems here: first one is they didn't give him a team cleansing ability really missed opportunity. 2nd one is his new leader ability is ABSOLUTE TRASH i mean defense down? really? is this some sort of bad joke? now what i will say is im seeing people say hes still useless but this is FAR from the truth he has some serious potential to do monster damage now so i think he will be useful but my god i still cant get over his new leader ability just so bad i want to puke honestly.
What a point. It clearly has a deep meaning and a lot to add to the argument.
Sarcasm