Ok guys, after reading nutes description i dont think this team is working as intended, it says the ally will gain 50% tm when stealthed and crit the first time, so the assist shouldnt give tm.
It says each turn, so the assists count. Datcha gets a turn they get 50% each. Scavenger gets a turn, 50% each.
Ha ha ha. How about when people buy your mk4 stun guns instead of mk5 in the shop by mistake? Why don't you goddamn change that? Oh what's that? Because it's a deliberate bear trap? Yeah, you don't need to say it.
How is 1 player using 1 character to clear a phase of the Raid meeting the intent of "work together as a guild to overcome normally insurmountable foes."
Yet this team that can only solo (haven't seen proof that it can solo p2) the final phase, which you have to work together to get there, doesn't meet the intent?
Yeah I don't like the phrasing for the nerf at all. I'm sure most of the forum expected the devs to respond with a nerf or some alteration to prevent the jawa loop. Clones and Zylo aside, Wonder if Resistance is going to get a nerf too since they can dish out huge damage in P2 and P4 since the recent change.
It's simple - can you put the game's key money maker on auto and Solo it?
If yes it will be nerfed (Nutinni, Broken Zader)
If no, it won't be a priority (Teebo, Clones, Resistance)
Ha ha ha. How about when people buy your mk4 stun guns instead of mk5 in the shop by mistake? Why don't you goddamn change that? Oh what's that? Because it's a deliberate bear trap? Yeah, you don't need to say it.
Just as the title suggests, this is aimed at the developers and this thread will most likely get taken down but it still needs to be said. Why is this Nute Jawa squad getting "fixed" this quickly when all of those abilities have been in the game for months. We all know it's a nerf at this point and there is absolutely no reason to nerf them. The mechanic isn't breaking anything, it's WAI based on what the description says it will do, and you are being petty because somebody yesterday figured out a way to use the mechanics you made for this game to play the game. Somebody figured out that Nute can make Jawas deal a lot of damage to only half of the Tank Raid, and they are already being nerfed because you failed to stress test every character in this game in every part of this game. This is unwarranted and unprecedented. There is no reason to do so and we all know it. If you are nerfing Nute and the Jawas then you better nerf Teebo in the Rancor Raid. You better nerf Zylo in the tank raid and you better start nerfing these squads the can solo entire phases of both raids because it is unfair to nerf one and none of the others. This "unintended behavior" is also applicable to so many other squads so you've got a lot of nerve to pull this so fast. At least you didn't wait until people farmed them up to nerf them, so thank you for that at least. Get to nerfing guys.
You can put the games key game mode on auto and solo it, of course they were not going to let that fly.
Wait until she's out before you call her OP. Some of us still remember the "nerf phoenix squad" before they came out.
Ehh... have you seen the game play? One shotting baze on an ability with a 3 turn cooldown, immune to DOT, dispel all negative effects on her self each turn, protection up to allies, TM gain, and much more. If this doesn't scream OP I don't know what does.
1. She's not immune to Turn Meter Reduction
2. She's not immune to Darth Nihilus' Drain Force
3. If you dispel and buff block Ahsoka's ally's with B2 she won't be able to gain buffs.
Once again, calm down and wait until she it out before you call her OP.
Funny thing is zylo can solo a phase and clones can solo a phase but nute can and they talk about nerfing him. The whole reason they would nerf him is because he gives ftp guilds a chance to do haat and makes less people want to spend money on the game because him and the 2 jawas he needs are easily farmable and they don't take a zeta. I mean zylo has an exploit that can make him solo a phase by himself but he is harder to get and requires a zeta so people will be mad if he gets nerfed. It is all about how they can suck more money out of everyone and letting a easily farm able combo help guilds that aren't made up of p2p players do haat is not putting money in there pocket.
Thanks guys for getting on this right away. You are protecting those of us whom have spent thousands on building specific HAAT teams to earn top tier rewards. Thanks for doing the right thing this time!
I agree. We all thought it was cool for a second, but in reality it turns an enormous achievement into the equivalent of the daily challenges.
What do we even play in the game at this point? Arena, GW, and the raids, this essentially would eliminate one of those.
Not every guild is clearing haat and has 50 members holding multiple zetas. This is a zeta free way to help lower guilds in the same way zylo would.
Not every guild is supposed to be clearing the HAAT without strong rosters. It takes time. Everyone will get there eventually. Just not with Nute. Lol
It's been out for a long time. At this point the rancor raid could be soloed by teebo teams, so I fail to see why they should address this. It would be a good thing to let weaker guilds start clearing haat since it isn't anything close to new content.
How is 1 player using 1 character to clear a phase of the Raid meeting the intent of "work together as a guild to overcome normally insurmountable foes."
Yet this team that can only solo (haven't seen proof that it can solo p2) the final phase, which you have to work together to get there, doesn't meet the intent?
Yeah I don't like the phrasing for the nerf at all. I'm sure most of the forum expected the devs to respond with a nerf or some alteration to prevent the jawa loop. Clones and Zylo aside, Wonder if Resistance is going to get a nerf too since they can dish out huge damage in P2 and P4 since the recent change.
It's simple - can you put the game's key money maker on auto and Solo it?
If yes it will be nerfed (Nutinni, Broken Zader)
If no, it won't be a priority (Teebo, Clones, Resistance)
Wow have the fourms gone crazy over nute. I thought it was really cool. But that dev response was super fast. The fastest I've every seen... personally idc either way. But with this and the recent chaze and gk complaints. And even the gear crunch. The community as a whole is mad about alot of things (empire pass, zmaul nerf, triple cleanse, chaze, no GG rework, more rebels, gear crunch, lack of farming ships, stale arena, boring raids, etc.) how can we fix this how can we balance this how can we make everyone happy? Free 7 star Luke just like r2 require sith. Release new game mode with revan as the prize and boom we will calm ourselves and trust you again....as I said before I don't really care I'm a droid guy waiting for my pass one day haha
Honestly, they better handle the Snipps release perfectly with a stunt like this. A free 7* toon isn't ever going to happen again because of what happened with K2, but that might be enough to shut us all up and hop back on the EA bandwagon for at least another month, haha.
The same argument can be made! Currently, 1 player can easily take out P1, and 2 players can easily take out P2 or P4 with Clones, and we even have a full solo of P4 now. EA/CG needs to really think hard about changing Nutinni, especially for credibilities sake.
Hiya Holotable Heroes!
Recently, a way to do significant damage to the AAT in phases 2 and 4 of the Tank Takedown raid have been discovered in the community. While we always enjoy seeing different strategies formed by Players to use in the raids, this most recent discovery disrupts our intent for the Tank Takedown Raid, which is to work together as a guild to overcome normally insurmountable foes.
We will be looking into this issue further this week and will announce any changes we plan to make. Cheers!
Exactly my thoughts as well. This just shows that they are all about the money grab. No need to spend money on a character and gear grind? That's no bueno in their eyes.
Wow have the fourms gone crazy over nute. I thought it was really cool. But that dev response was super fast. The fastest I've every seen... personally idc either way. But with this and the recent chaze and gk complaints. And even the gear crunch. The community as a whole is mad about alot of things (empire pass, zmaul nerf, triple cleanse, chaze, no GG rework, more rebels, gear crunch, lack of farming ships, stale arena, boring raids, etc.) how can we fix this how can we balance this how can we make everyone happy? Free 7 star Luke just like r2 require sith. Release new game mode with revan as the prize and boom we will calm ourselves and trust you again....as I said before I don't really care I'm a droid guy waiting for my pass one day haha
Honestly, they better handle the Snipps release perfectly with a stunt like this. A free 7* toon isn't ever going to happen again because of what happened with K2, but that might be enough to shut us all up and hop back on the EA bandwagon for at least another month, haha.
They have too the uproar is unlike anything I've seen i started when poe and droids were meta
How is 1 player using 1 character to clear a phase of the Raid meeting the intent of "work together as a guild to overcome normally insurmountable foes."
Yet this team that can only solo (haven't seen proof that it can solo p2) the final phase, which you have to work together to get there, doesn't meet the intent?
Yeah I don't like the phrasing for the nerf at all. I'm sure most of the forum expected the devs to respond with a nerf or some alteration to prevent the jawa loop. Clones and Zylo aside, Wonder if Resistance is going to get a nerf too since they can dish out huge damage in P2 and P4 since the recent change.
It's simple - can you put the game's key feature on auto and Solo it?
If yes it will be nerfed (Nutinni, Broken Zader)
If no, it won't be a priority (Teebo, Clones, Resistance)
Oh, is that the litmus test?
It's a mobile game they have to have 2 things - some portion of people spending money and the users engaged while in app to keep the game up and running.
Wow have the fourms gone crazy over nute. I thought it was really cool. But that dev response was super fast. The fastest I've every seen... personally idc either way. But with this and the recent chaze and gk complaints. And even the gear crunch. The community as a whole is mad about alot of things (empire pass, zmaul nerf, triple cleanse, chaze, no GG rework, more rebels, gear crunch, lack of farming ships, stale arena, boring raids, etc.) how can we fix this how can we balance this how can we make everyone happy? Free 7 star Luke just like r2 require sith. Release new game mode with revan as the prize and boom we will calm ourselves and trust you again....as I said before I don't really care I'm a droid guy waiting for my pass one day haha
Just as the title suggests, this is aimed at the developers and this thread will most likely get taken down but it still needs to be said. Why is this Nute Jawa squad getting "fixed" this quickly when all of those abilities have been in the game for months. We all know it's a nerf at this point and there is absolutely no reason to nerf them. The mechanic isn't breaking anything, it's WAI based on what the description says it will do, and you are being petty because somebody yesterday figured out a way to use the mechanics you made for this game to play the game. Somebody figured out that Nute can make Jawas deal a lot of damage to only half of the Tank Raid, and they are already being nerfed because you failed to stress test every character in this game in every part of this game. This is unwarranted and unprecedented. There is no reason to do so and we all know it. If you are nerfing Nute and the Jawas then you better nerf Teebo in the Rancor Raid. You better nerf Zylo in the tank raid and you better start nerfing these squads the can solo entire phases of both raids because it is unfair to nerf one and none of the others. This "unintended behavior" is also applicable to so many other squads so you've got a lot of nerve to pull this so fast. At least you didn't wait until people farmed them up to nerf them, so thank you for that at least. Get to nerfing guys.
You can put the games key game mode on auto and solo it, of course they were not going to let that fly.
For 2 out of 4 of the raid phases and even then you have to rely on RNG to get results. Plus to top it all off, nothing about what they could do was broken or mislabeled like Zarris and Zader, it was WAI but the devs didn't like how well it was working so they decided to nerf the already terrible toon back into the graveyard.
Wow have the fourms gone crazy over nute. I thought it was really cool. But that dev response was super fast. The fastest I've every seen... personally idc either way. But with this and the recent chaze and gk complaints. And even the gear crunch. The community as a whole is mad about alot of things (empire pass, zmaul nerf, triple cleanse, chaze, no GG rework, more rebels, gear crunch, lack of farming ships, stale arena, boring raids, etc.) how can we fix this how can we balance this how can we make everyone happy? Free 7 star Luke just like r2 require sith. Release new game mode with revan as the prize and boom we will calm ourselves and trust you again....as I said before I don't really care I'm a droid guy waiting for my pass one day haha
Thanks guys for getting on this right away. You are protecting those of us whom have spent thousands on building specific HAAT teams to earn top tier rewards. Thanks for doing the right thing this time!
I agree. We all thought it was cool for a second, but in reality it turns an enormous achievement into the equivalent of the daily challenges.
What do we even play in the game at this point? Arena, GW, and the raids, this essentially would eliminate one of those.
Not every guild is clearing haat and has 50 members holding multiple zetas. This is a zeta free way to help lower guilds in the same way zylo would.
Not every guild is supposed to be clearing the HAAT without strong rosters. It takes time. Everyone will get there eventually. Just not with Nute. Lol
It's been out for a long time. At this point the rancor raid could be soloed by teebo teams, so I fail to see why they should address this. It would be a good thing to let weaker guilds start clearing haat since it isn't anything close to new content.
Because you had to actually play the game to Solo with Teebo.
I can sense that there's going to be hell to be raised in the near future. First this business with the nute nerf, who was already useless anyway, now more useless, and this new broken fulcrum ahsoka that's gonna be released. I feel like tensions in this forum are at an all time high. Not to mention the fact that arena is dull and raids are stale and repetitive. I don't know what's going on, but we need to prioritize here. I agree that nute+ jawas was kinda broken, but all this nonsense with all the border line op toons being released has to stop. First GK and chaze, now ahsoka. This has to stop, and soon, or I fear something really bad is going to happen soon. This new game mode better lay golden eggs or something cuz I've never seen so many angry people on this forum before.
I can sense that there's going to be hell to be raised in the near future. First this business with the nute nerf, who was already useless anyway, now more useless, and this new broken fulcrum ahsoka that's gonna be released. I feel like tensions in this forum are at an all time high. Not to mention the fact that arena is dull and raids are stale and repetitive. I don't know what's going on, but we need to prioritize here. I agree that nute+ jawas was kinda broken, but all this nonsense with all the border line op toons being released has to stop. First GK and chaze, now ahsoka. This has to stop, and soon, or I fear something really bad is going to happen soon. This new game mode better lay golden eggs or something cuz I've never seen so many angry people on this forum before.
It was way worse when mods first came out!
I almost quit the game then just because of all the vitriol from other players.
Right now things are concerning but we have yet to see vids of the new and improved Tarkin who SHOULD be a Rebel eater with the right team to support him.
His AOE offense down and crit chance down that can't be resisted by Rebels will be quite affective against R2, Chaze and company.
I understand the whole cleanse thing but cleansers are nothing new and DT is already quite affective against Chaze and R2 even in a triple cleanse lineup.
So long to fix the zVader solo on Rancor, over a year to fix the still broken raid ticket counter but under 24hrs to "fix" this.
I think what is rubbing a lot of people wrong is the inconsistencies in these fixes. If Vader was fixed right away then this wouldn't of come as big of a shock.
I am somewhere between a larger species of dolphin and a small to mid-sized whale - I'm not ticked about this being developed at all. I applaud the guy's creativity, cleverness, and ingenuity to think this up, using non-broken working-as-intended mechanics. Cheers dude, you're the hero of the moment. I am sorry your efforts are being thwarted promptly. the P1 zylo thing, p2/p4 zidader, the p2/p4 clones, chirpatine, Ep-tfp-3 tanks, all of them are awesome atypical ways to do massive damage, but your group beats them all in ease of acquirement and simplicity. I haven't 7* Nute to try it out; but I am truly sorry this is being stripped away from you and the community.
Only the strongest guilds should get HAAT rewards!! .... all those little guilds they don't need rewards or kenobi shards. Anything that works for them should be nerfed immediately. This is getting really bad. Does anyone test these characters before they are released?
Just as the title suggests, this is aimed at the developers and this thread will most likely get taken down but it still needs to be said. Why is this Nute Jawa squad getting "fixed" this quickly when all of those abilities have been in the game for months. We all know it's a nerf at this point and there is absolutely no reason to nerf them. The mechanic isn't breaking anything, it's WAI based on what the description says it will do, and you are being petty because somebody yesterday figured out a way to use the mechanics you made for this game to play the game. Somebody figured out that Nute can make Jawas deal a lot of damage to only half of the Tank Raid, and they are already being nerfed because you failed to stress test every character in this game in every part of this game. This is unwarranted and unprecedented. There is no reason to do so and we all know it. If you are nerfing Nute and the Jawas then you better nerf Teebo in the Rancor Raid. You better nerf Zylo in the tank raid and you better start nerfing these squads the can solo entire phases of both raids because it is unfair to nerf one and none of the others. This "unintended behavior" is also applicable to so many other squads so you've got a lot of nerve to pull this so fast. At least you didn't wait until people farmed them up to nerf them, so thank you for that at least. Get to nerfing guys.
You can put the games key game mode on auto and solo it, of course they were not going to let that fly.
For 2 out of 4 of the raid phases and even then you have to rely on RNG to get results. Plus to top it all off, nothing about what they could do was broken or mislabeled like Zarris and Zader, it was WAI but the devs didn't like how well it was working so they decided to nerf the already terrible toon back into the graveyard.
You could Solo a whole phase of the games key mode with the game on auto. We all know that's not WAI.
Wait until she's out before you call her OP. Some of us still remember the "nerf phoenix squad" before they came out.
Ehh... have you seen the game play? One shotting baze on an ability with a 3 turn cooldown, immune to DOT, dispel all negative effects on her self each turn, protection up to allies, TM gain, and much more. If this doesn't scream OP I don't know what does.
1. She's not immune to Turn Meter Reduction
2. She's not immune to Darth Nihilus' Drain Force
3. If you dispel and buff block Ahsoka's ally's with B2 she won't be able to gain buffs.
Once again, calm down and wait until she it out before you call her OP.
But I said "Eh..." that signifies a lack of caring about something to do stuff about it and generally not being to emotional about it. But for real tho you have seen smithie and ahnald's videos on her, right? He put her in the grand master category "with out a doubt." Plus, her 2nd special is basically anihilate but without a giant cool down.
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It says each turn, so the assists count. Datcha gets a turn they get 50% each. Scavenger gets a turn, 50% each.
Because that would be the honest thing to do. Lol
Fixed
Very true
You can put the games key game mode on auto and solo it, of course they were not going to let that fly.
1. She's not immune to Turn Meter Reduction
2. She's not immune to Darth Nihilus' Drain Force
3. If you dispel and buff block Ahsoka's ally's with B2 she won't be able to gain buffs.
Once again, calm down and wait until she it out before you call her OP.
Very true dude. I agree
It's been out for a long time. At this point the rancor raid could be soloed by teebo teams, so I fail to see why they should address this. It would be a good thing to let weaker guilds start clearing haat since it isn't anything close to new content.
Devs have to feed their families.
I'm this game the droid pass will be rebel light side:'(
Honestly, they better handle the Snipps release perfectly with a stunt like this. A free 7* toon isn't ever going to happen again because of what happened with K2, but that might be enough to shut us all up and hop back on the EA bandwagon for at least another month, haha.
Exactly my thoughts as well. This just shows that they are all about the money grab. No need to spend money on a character and gear grind? That's no bueno in their eyes.
They have too the uproar is unlike anything I've seen i started when poe and droids were meta
It's a mobile game they have to have 2 things - some portion of people spending money and the users engaged while in app to keep the game up and running.
Rework GG
For 2 out of 4 of the raid phases and even then you have to rely on RNG to get results. Plus to top it all off, nothing about what they could do was broken or mislabeled like Zarris and Zader, it was WAI but the devs didn't like how well it was working so they decided to nerf the already terrible toon back into the graveyard.
Right!?
These **** have zero idea about PR
Because you had to actually play the game to Solo with Teebo.
It was way worse when mods first came out!
I almost quit the game then just because of all the vitriol from other players.
Right now things are concerning but we have yet to see vids of the new and improved Tarkin who SHOULD be a Rebel eater with the right team to support him.
His AOE offense down and crit chance down that can't be resisted by Rebels will be quite affective against R2, Chaze and company.
I understand the whole cleanse thing but cleansers are nothing new and DT is already quite affective against Chaze and R2 even in a triple cleanse lineup.
I think what is rubbing a lot of people wrong is the inconsistencies in these fixes. If Vader was fixed right away then this wouldn't of come as big of a shock.
Are you serious?
edit: unintentional omission of a "you"
You could Solo a whole phase of the games key mode with the game on auto. We all know that's not WAI.
But I said "Eh..." that signifies a lack of caring about something to do stuff about it and generally not being to emotional about it. But for real tho you have seen smithie and ahnald's videos on her, right? He put her in the grand master category "with out a doubt." Plus, her 2nd special is basically anihilate but without a giant cool down.