Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Right, they’re changing discs and bosses and maps and all that jazz. I get that I really don’t understand everything that goes into it all also. Just feels like they could do what they’re doing in the sandbox, run the old version, then make the shift once it was ready?
I’ll point out that I am nowhere near getting CAT, I am unaffected in that regard, same with the RC. Conquest is just good fun for me. I want to play it to play it. Bummed it’s delayed.
Ive got both CAT & RC maxed out but this delay hurts me by not getting the last needed materials to get everyone ready for Executor event. So the the probable cost is 1 month of reduced income from fleet arena when everyone with executor will nuke me
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Right, they’re changing discs and bosses and maps and all that jazz. I get that I really don’t understand everything that goes into it all also. Just feels like they could do what they’re doing in the sandbox, run the old version, then make the shift once it was ready?
I’ll point out that I am nowhere near getting CAT, I am unaffected in that regard, same with the RC. Conquest is just good fun for me. I want to play it to play it. Bummed it’s delayed.
We all are, and I would talk about testing and feedback, and decisions that need to be made and all that jazz, but it dordnt change the fact that is less fun without that event running.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
they also should do conquests without new characters to catch up with the currency, because it's almost impossible to complete conquest and buy all the shards without ending with fewer currency then you started, so one day you'll have none
they also should do conquests without new characters to catch up with the currency, because it's almost impossible to complete conquest and buy all the shards without ending with fewer currency then you started, so one day you'll have none
Changing the disk swap cost to energy makes it very much possible now. But I agree that getting some meaningful overhead would be nice.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
Changes to the event part way through a character release would not be ideal, as it could effect how many players unlock Maul.
But, I'm sure you are right, it's all a nefarious plan, that is why we have CAT packs out to.....oh wait.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
Changes to the event part way through a character release would not be ideal, as it could effect how many players unlock Maul.
But, I'm sure you are right, it's all a nefarious plan, that is why we have CAT packs out to.....oh wait.
As opposed to throwing the whole Conquest cadence out of whack, which is totally ideal and doesn't affect any unlocks at all?
We humans want to see an explanation and reason behind everything to be able to cope with randomness and meaninglessness of life. It’s easier to believe in a nefarious mastermind plan when truth is more likely due to the incompetence of man.
they also should do conquests without new characters to catch up with the currency, because it's almost impossible to complete conquest and buy all the shards without ending with fewer currency then you started, so one day you'll have none
Changing the disk swap cost to energy makes it very much possible now. But I agree that getting some meaningful overhead would be nice.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
It makes total sense from a $$$ point of view. Tell the players it’s delayed because of reason they will never be able to validate, delay gear/mat/shards acquisition until after the first run of EXE, then once the whales are milked, start the conquest…profit. Nothing tin foil hat about that. It’s the same reason the gear economy hasn’t been touched, despite intense player feedback…..money. There is no denying that.
they also should do conquests without new characters to catch up with the currency, because it's almost impossible to complete conquest and buy all the shards without ending with fewer currency then you started, so one day you'll have none
Then for one character of your choosing you’ll unlock it in 4 months instead of 3. You could also do that every time to net extra gear. Strategic decisions are fun.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
Changes to the event part way through a character release would not be ideal, as it could effect how many players unlock Maul.
But, I'm sure you are right, it's all a nefarious plan, that is why we have CAT packs out to.....oh wait.
As opposed to throwing the whole Conquest cadence out of whack, which is totally ideal and doesn't affect any unlocks at all?
As I said, you convinced me, nefarious plan and all that.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
It makes total sense from a $$$ point of view. Tell the players it’s delayed because of reason they will never be able to validate, delay gear/mat/shards acquisition until after the first run of EXE, then once the whales are milked, start the conquest…profit. Nothing tin foil hat about that. It’s the same reason the gear economy hasn’t been touched, despite intense player feedback…..money. There is no denying that.
There are a group that can validate that they are doing testing and working out final details due to feedback, but yes, of course, it's all a nefarious plan, total nailed it on the head.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
Changes to the event part way through a character release would not be ideal, as it could effect how many players unlock Maul.
But, I'm sure you are right, it's all a nefarious plan, that is why we have CAT packs out to.....oh wait.
As opposed to throwing the whole Conquest cadence out of whack, which is totally ideal and doesn't affect any unlocks at all?
They stated clearly in the infamous RA that the conquest will be delayed, but that we will have about 3 conquests in 3(ish) months; sure it’s not ideal, and I guess other solutions were considered. Usually they avoid making such time related promise (probably because stuff happens and they don’t want to not deliver if they establish a deadline), so it’s a progress in communication imo. Maybe we can cut them some slack on this one, they most likely do their best to respect what was announced.
Honestly at this point they should have just launched the last version with CAT and the RC again.
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
It makes total sense from a $$$ point of view. Tell the players it’s delayed because of reason they will never be able to validate, delay gear/mat/shards acquisition until after the first run of EXE, then once the whales are milked, start the conquest…profit. Nothing tin foil hat about that. It’s the same reason the gear economy hasn’t been touched, despite intense player feedback…..money. There is no denying that.
There are a group that can validate that they are doing testing and working out final details due to feedback, but yes, of course, it's all a nefarious plan, total nailed it on the head.
Except they can't validate anything because they can't comment about anything testing related.
It was stated that Conquest will be delayed. I know I wish there was a solution where we don’t have this delay with the somewhat predictable 3 month event cadence becoming established…BUT I am thankful that they told us. I’ll take an announcement over silence even if it is “bad” news.
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So while we may not get one in August (there is still time for it to start this month), after they start the first of the 3,
It's intentional to allow the ones who got her some sort of exclusive run at the top
I dont think the delay is just so they can change the rewards.
Right, they’re changing discs and bosses and maps and all that jazz. I get that I really don’t understand everything that goes into it all also. Just feels like they could do what they’re doing in the sandbox, run the old version, then make the shift once it was ready?
I’ll point out that I am nowhere near getting CAT, I am unaffected in that regard, same with the RC. Conquest is just good fun for me. I want to play it to play it. Bummed it’s delayed.
Yeah, it's also to limit R8 materials acquisition, CAT and RC/Executor unlocks.
THB (tinfoil hat brigade) in full force.
We all are, and I would talk about testing and feedback, and decisions that need to be made and all that jazz, but it dordnt change the fact that is less fun without that event running.
And what else is keeping them from running the old version with only the rewards changed until the new one is ready?
The release cadence they stated for Conquest characters.
How? It's not like anyone would unlock Maul any sooner if we start getting shards now. In fact, the cadence is changed for CAT now due to the delay. Swap Maul for CAT, CAT for RC, put RC in store and leave the rest as is, no need for a delay. Except if the "tinfoil hat brigade" is right.
Changing the disk swap cost to energy makes it very much possible now. But I agree that getting some meaningful overhead would be nice.
Changes to the event part way through a character release would not be ideal, as it could effect how many players unlock Maul.
But, I'm sure you are right, it's all a nefarious plan, that is why we have CAT packs out to.....oh wait.
As opposed to throwing the whole Conquest cadence out of whack, which is totally ideal and doesn't affect any unlocks at all?
I missed that, I didn't watch the video
It makes total sense from a $$$ point of view. Tell the players it’s delayed because of reason they will never be able to validate, delay gear/mat/shards acquisition until after the first run of EXE, then once the whales are milked, start the conquest…profit. Nothing tin foil hat about that. It’s the same reason the gear economy hasn’t been touched, despite intense player feedback…..money. There is no denying that.
Then for one character of your choosing you’ll unlock it in 4 months instead of 3. You could also do that every time to net extra gear. Strategic decisions are fun.
As I said, you convinced me, nefarious plan and all that.
There are a group that can validate that they are doing testing and working out final details due to feedback, but yes, of course, it's all a nefarious plan, total nailed it on the head.
They stated clearly in the infamous RA that the conquest will be delayed, but that we will have about 3 conquests in 3(ish) months; sure it’s not ideal, and I guess other solutions were considered. Usually they avoid making such time related promise (probably because stuff happens and they don’t want to not deliver if they establish a deadline), so it’s a progress in communication imo. Maybe we can cut them some slack on this one, they most likely do their best to respect what was announced.
They say nothing, people accuse and speculate.
They honestly tell us what's going on, even though they run a risk of it not working out, people accuse and speculate.
Each time this happened it makes me wonder less and less why they dont want to state things, all the time. It changes nothing.
WKD (white knight defense) in full force as well I see.
Except Galactic Chase wasn't part of the announced cadence. (I'm not saying it was bad - just that they already changed it.)
Except they can't validate anything because they can't comment about anything testing related.