Arena is getting very boring. You fight with the same team against the same opponents every day. If you want change your team it will take a long time because you are only competetive with a 7 star team. GW is fun you can try new combinations and gets a lot of rewards. GW is the most important game mode in this game. And I am really hoping to see more game modes this month, because after the GW fix it is easy as in January. 30min game time.
I actually find it the reverse on my server. There are tons of different teams and diversity in my server. In GW, i just use the same teams to confirm my rewards. Most people, at least from what I read here on the forum, also have their go-to teams to finish GW and GW itself is populated with the least variety of team comps.
I see a lot of posts that seem to suggest that a character is either useful in the arena or is useless.
There is more to the game than arena. The rewards from GW are better than rewards from the arena (my primary source of money and ability mats).
Also, even though we have been complaining about it for a couple months now, there should be more content on the way.
So just because a character does not fit well in the arena, that doesn't mean they aren't useful somewhere else.
It is not arena or nothing.
That's a great post, but ima have to stop you right there. Arena is the best place to go of all time. OF ALL TIME!!
Joking aside, there really isn't a feeling of accomplishment anywhere other than Arena. GW/LightDark Side/daily tasks are all 100% bots. Yes, arena is too, but you get tons more variety and possibilities in arena than you do anywhere else.
Most people, and probably not you, have a single set GW team. I know I do. My A-Team can make it from start to finish in GW and GW is a sea of Sid, Lumi, GS, Dooku +whatever. Very rarely is there a break in the GW cycle.
At least in arena there is the potential to fail, to get better, to find a team that counters another, etc. It's why everyone puts so much emphasis on it. It also ranks you too. I wonder if GW would be more celebrated if there was a ranking on that.
I can see that point of view. But as I get older, going to extremes to be competitive just doesn't do much for me. I prefer GW because I can mess with my team more and play with new ideas. Completing it with a single A team is fine and all, but once you've done that 75 times, it just becomes an exercise in BLAH for rewards. Good rewards, mind you. But still BLAH. It is a daily chore. But it is one that I can stand now that I have a bigger bench and I can mess with stuff.
And that is where arena is with me. It is an exercise in BLAH. My arena ladder doesn't have any variety in it at the top. It is the same veriations of about 3 or 4 different teams. I see far more variety in GW.
This is why I have her, QGJ, Poe, Daka, Boba, and HRS all already at 7*. Why hoard when you can max?
If you have all of that then you either spend a lot more crystals on refreshes than I do, or have been buying chromiums.
As to why to max rather than hoard, the answer is because CG seemingly randomly picks whom they are going to buff and whether they are going to get a good buff (Royal Guard, Ahsoka) or a horrible one (Mace). This thread could just as easily have been about Mob Enforcer or Jedi Knight Guardian.
Arena is getting very boring. You fight with the same team against the same opponents every day. If you want change your team it will take a long time because you are only competetive with a 7 star team. GW is fun you can try new combinations and gets a lot of rewards. GW is the most important game mode in this game. And I am really hoping to see more game modes this month, because after the GW fix it is easy as in January. 30min game time.
I actually find it the reverse on my server. There are tons of different teams and diversity in my server. In GW, i just use the same teams to confirm my rewards. Most people, at least from what I read here on the forum, also have their go-to teams to finish GW and GW itself is populated with the least variety of team comps.
Agreed. My arena has been so much more active with more diverse teams since they nerfed Poe. Before nerfing Poe, everyone had the same team and it was the same teams who had 7* Poe in the top 10.
I see a lot of posts that seem to suggest that a character is either useful in the arena or is useless.
There is more to the game than arena. The rewards from GW are better than rewards from the arena (my primary source of money and ability mats).
Also, even though we have been complaining about it for a couple months now, there should be more content on the way.
So just because a character does not fit well in the arena, that doesn't mean they aren't useful somewhere else.
It is not arena or nothing.
That's a great post, but ima have to stop you right there. Arena is the best place to go of all time. OF ALL TIME!!
Joking aside, there really isn't a feeling of accomplishment anywhere other than Arena. GW/LightDark Side/daily tasks are all 100% bots. Yes, arena is too, but you get tons more variety and possibilities in arena than you do anywhere else.
Most people, and probably not you, have a single set GW team. I know I do. My A-Team can make it from start to finish in GW and GW is a sea of Sid, Lumi, GS, Dooku +whatever. Very rarely is there a break in the GW cycle.
At least in arena there is the potential to fail, to get better, to find a team that counters another, etc. It's why everyone puts so much emphasis on it. It also ranks you too. I wonder if GW would be more celebrated if there was a ranking on that.
I can see that point of view. But as I get older, going to extremes to be competitive just doesn't do much for me. I prefer GW because I can mess with my team more and play with new ideas. Completing it with a single A team is fine and all, but once you've done that 75 times, it just becomes an exercise in BLAH for rewards. Good rewards, mind you. But still BLAH. It is a daily chore. But it is one that I can stand now that I have a bigger bench and I can mess with stuff.
And that is where arena is with me. It is an exercise in BLAH. My arena ladder doesn't have any variety in it at the top. It is the same veriations of about 3 or 4 different teams. I see far more variety in GW.
One final thing about arena. The only thing that makes arena vaguely interesting is meeting the other people in your ladder here on the forums and then talking a little good natured trash. The people make it fun, not the pointless ranking system were anyone can beat anyone and it's all about last minute sniping and combat locks.
I see a lot of posts that seem to suggest that a character is either useful in the arena or is useless.
There is more to the game than arena. The rewards from GW are better than rewards from the arena (my primary source of money and ability mats).
Also, even though we have been complaining about it for a couple months now, there should be more content on the way.
So just because a character does not fit well in the arena, that doesn't mean they aren't useful somewhere else.
It is not arena or nothing.
That's a great post, but ima have to stop you right there. Arena is the best place to go of all time. OF ALL TIME!!
Joking aside, there really isn't a feeling of accomplishment anywhere other than Arena. GW/LightDark Side/daily tasks are all 100% bots. Yes, arena is too, but you get tons more variety and possibilities in arena than you do anywhere else.
Most people, and probably not you, have a single set GW team. I know I do. My A-Team can make it from start to finish in GW and GW is a sea of Sid, Lumi, GS, Dooku +whatever. Very rarely is there a break in the GW cycle.
At least in arena there is the potential to fail, to get better, to find a team that counters another, etc. It's why everyone puts so much emphasis on it. It also ranks you too. I wonder if GW would be more celebrated if there was a ranking on that.
I can see that point of view. But as I get older, going to extremes to be competitive just doesn't do much for me. I prefer GW because I can mess with my team more and play with new ideas. Completing it with a single A team is fine and all, but once you've done that 75 times, it just becomes an exercise in BLAH for rewards. Good rewards, mind you. But still BLAH. It is a daily chore. But it is one that I can stand now that I have a bigger bench and I can mess with stuff.
And that is where arena is with me. It is an exercise in BLAH. My arena ladder doesn't have any variety in it at the top. It is the same veriations of about 3 or 4 different teams. I see far more variety in GW.
One final thing about arena. The only thing that makes arena vaguely interesting is meeting the other people in your ladder here on the forums and then talking a little good natured trash. The people make it fun, not the pointless ranking system were anymore can beat anyone and it's all about last minute sniping and combat locks.
Never met one, thats why we need more content. Whats about guilds?
This is why I have her, QGJ, Poe, Daka, Boba, and HRS all already at 7*. Why hoard when you can max?
If you have all of that then you either spend a lot more crystals on refreshes than I do, or have been buying chromiums.
As to why to max rather than hoard, the answer is because CG seemingly randomly picks whom they are going to buff and whether they are going to get a good buff (Royal Guard, Ahsoka) or a horrible one (Mace). This thread could just as easily have been about Mob Enforcer or Jedi Knight Guardian.
I did get QGJ and Ahsoka from chromiums early on in the game, but most of my crystals have been spent on 3 refreshes of Cantina daily. I found it the best use of energy to max JC, Kylo Ren, GS, Mace, and Dooku. Almost maxed Barriss. I have been playing since November and originally started with 3 healers (Barris, JC, and Lumi), Sid, and Ahsoka/QGJ from Jedi Pack.
Btw, sadly I maxed JKG for Yoda event. I thought news about her buff would make her viable, but she will never again see the light of day.
Arena is getting very boring. You fight with the same team against the same opponents every day. If you want change your team it will take a long time because you are only competetive with a 7 star team. GW is fun you can try new combinations and gets a lot of rewards. GW is the most important game mode in this game. And I am really hoping to see more game modes this month, because after the GW fix it is easy as in January. 30min game time.
I actually find it the reverse on my server. There are tons of different teams and diversity in my server. In GW, i just use the same teams to confirm my rewards. Most people, at least from what I read here on the forum, also have their go-to teams to finish GW and GW itself is populated with the least variety of team comps.
Agreed. My arena has been so much more active with more diverse teams since they nerfed Poe. Before nerfing Poe, everyone had the same team and it was the same teams who had 7* Poe in the top 10.
Yea, ever since the Poe nerf I have seen Droids, QGJ(L) teams, Phasma teams, poggle teams, ST Han + Poe + 3 DPS teams, etc.
There is a ton of diversity, at least on my server. I know not every server is like this, but I feel that is why I like my arena more. My GW is literally "Phasma lead, Sid, Dooku, Lumi, +1 other" every frakking node.
Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!
Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.
AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!
HOLY **** ****!
She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her.
I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.
Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.
I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.
It's not her by herself that shines as top in arena, it's her Synergy with QGJ and Yoda.
Her basic actually hits for 3K reg - 4.5K crit and she crits more often than not see as she has the highest crit in the game. Not to mention with QGJ and Yoda your guaranteed to kill one person before anyone goes. Even if you don't attack with Yoda first round for battle medatations to counter Dooku stun. You can still take out anyone under 11K hp with her basic and QGJ call in. Saving her special for finishing someone in the second round or healing the team if needed.
Jedi team still won't be very good on D but can now be more competitive for top rank. And with so many people having to abandon all causes if they want Yoda, this makes it actually pay off without making Jedi OP.
@Megadeth3700
You are simply regurgitating information from the database, which anyone else can do. An experienced player would know (and I assume you are) that the damage portrayed on the website is not what you will see when applied in-game. That is assuming the attack is done on 0 defence, along with other factors.
I can give you a quick example. RP, on the database is said to hit 4484-4953. In an arena match, RP will hit 3700-3800, which is a gap of almost 1 thousand. I am not wrong when I say her first hit will be weak if you don't use her ability.
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Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!
Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.
AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!
HOLY **** ****!
She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her.
I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.
Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.
I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.
It's not her by herself that shines as top in arena, it's her Synergy with QGJ and Yoda.
Her basic actually hits for 3K reg - 4.5K crit and she crits more often than not see as she has the highest crit in the game. Not to mention with QGJ and Yoda your guaranteed to kill one person before anyone goes. Even if you don't attack with Yoda first round for battle medatations to counter Dooku stun. You can still take out anyone under 11K hp with her basic and QGJ call in. Saving her special for finishing someone in the second round or healing the team if needed.
Jedi team still won't be very good on D but can now be more competitive for top rank. And with so many people having to abandon all causes if they want Yoda, this makes it actually pay off without making Jedi OP.
@Megadeth3700
You are simply regurgitating information from the database, which anyone else can do. An experienced player would know (and I assume you are) that the damage portrayed on the website is not what you will see when applied in-game. That is assuming the attack is done on 0 defence, along with other factors.
I can give you a quick example. RP, on the database is said to hit 4484-4953. In an arena match, RP will hit 3700-3800, which is a gap of almost 1 thousand. I am not wrong when I say her first hit will be weak if you don't use her ability.
You are incorrect on this one. I have her max gear at 6* and use her in arena for fun, and yes against 7* 70 characters. She hits for around 2.5k reg and 4k crits on basic attacks so 7*. Her basic at 7* will be equal or greater than Lumi.
Therefore, being modest, in arena first round her basic will crit at least 4k. followed by QGJ assist = death for anyone under 11K
Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!
Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.
AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!
HOLY **** ****!
She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her.
I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.
Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.
I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.
It's not her by herself that shines as top in arena, it's her Synergy with QGJ and Yoda.
Her basic actually hits for 3K reg - 4.5K crit and she crits more often than not see as she has the highest crit in the game. Not to mention with QGJ and Yoda your guaranteed to kill one person before anyone goes. Even if you don't attack with Yoda first round for battle medatations to counter Dooku stun. You can still take out anyone under 11K hp with her basic and QGJ call in. Saving her special for finishing someone in the second round or healing the team if needed.
Jedi team still won't be very good on D but can now be more competitive for top rank. And with so many people having to abandon all causes if they want Yoda, this makes it actually pay off without making Jedi OP.
@Megadeth3700
You are simply regurgitating information from the database, which anyone else can do. An experienced player would know (and I assume you are) that the damage portrayed on the website is not what you will see when applied in-game. That is assuming the attack is done on 0 defence, along with other factors.
I can give you a quick example. RP, on the database is said to hit 4484-4953. In an arena match, RP will hit 3700-3800, which is a gap of almost 1 thousand. I am not wrong when I say her first hit will be weak if you don't use her ability.
You are incorrect on this one. I have her max gear at 6* and use her in arena for fun, and yes against 7* 70 characters. She hits for around 2.5k reg and 4k crits on basic attacks so 7*. Her basic at 7* will be equal or greater than Lumi.
You just proved yourself wrong. The point I was getting across is that Ahsoka won't hit as high as the website states, therefore it is incorrect to assume she will hit 3k, with 4.5k crits. Also, I don't know why you made reference to Lumi's basic, nobody said it was any good, its just a simple hit like most other characters.
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WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.
A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?
He is actually right. Look at the Mace Windu buffs. Did he get higher speed? No...then he is useless. If he had 160 speed? Then Meta material, even without the rest of changes! This proved that, no matter how many balance changes they do, if they don't give a character high tier speed, he is gonna be useless.
Did RG get a speed increase? Nope. Yet still a completely viable toon for top meta teams. Mace sucks because his kit is garbage. Phasma's speed is 121; still a completely viable toon. Kylo is regularly used on Phasma/Poe teams. Droids are still regularly used hidden behind Poe or RG. Daka is only 136 without Asajj and seen all over the place. There a plenty of non speed meta toons that get used.
One of the regular complaints on the forums is that nothing holds on defense because almost anything wins on offense. Yet, somehow, according to you, if it doesn't have speed it's useless. Ok lol
WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.
A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?
it's still speed, speed and more speed. There are still no options to play anything else besides high speed dps. Diversity in gameplay is still lacking
That's total bull. If that were true neither Phasma or Kylo would be capable of being in top 10 teams. They are.
Not sure what server u r playing on but on mine haven't seen one since 50-100 spot... Definitely not in top 20.
I play on one of the more competitive hard launch servers. It's a completely viable top 20 or higher squad.
WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.
A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?
He is actually right. Look at the Mace Windu buffs. Did he get higher speed? No...then he is useless. If he had 160 speed? Then Meta material, even without the rest of changes! This proved that, no matter how many balance changes they do, if they don't give a character high tier speed, he is gonna be useless.
Did RG get a speed increase? Nope. Yet still a completely viable toon for top meta teams. Mace sucks because his kit is garbage. Phasma's speed is 121; still a completely viable toon. Kylo is regularly used on Phasma/Poe teams. Droids are still regularly used hidden behind Poe or RG. Daka is only 136 without Asajj and seen all over the place. There a plenty of non speed meta toons that get used.
They didn't increase RG's "speed" stat, but he now has the fastest taunt in the game.
WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.
A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?
He is actually right. Look at the Mace Windu buffs. Did he get higher speed? No...then he is useless. If he had 160 speed? Then Meta material, even without the rest of changes! This proved that, no matter how many balance changes they do, if they don't give a character high tier speed, he is gonna be useless.
Did RG get a speed increase? Nope. Yet still a completely viable toon for top meta teams. Mace sucks because his kit is garbage. Phasma's speed is 121; still a completely viable toon. Kylo is regularly used on Phasma/Poe teams. Droids are still regularly used hidden behind Poe or RG. Daka is only 136 without Asajj and seen all over the place. There a plenty of non speed meta toons that get used.
They didn't increase RG's "speed" stat, but he now has the fastest taunt in the game.
Sure, but his point was that if they don't increase the speed of the toon that they're useless. RG never got a true speed increase. The fact that he got an 85% chance to stun when above 50% health is incredibly potent too. Poe got a speed decrease and is still a viable tank. Han, with only 121 speed is seen here and there. A guy on my shard named Manytanks competes for top 5 spot with Han.
Speed, while certainly the fotm stat, is not the end all be all. There are totally viable teams that are not built to be at 143 speed or higher.
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Depending on the team match up Poe would still have a "faster" taunt. On a cookie cutter droid team:
Ashoka will need to take 3 crits
1st will remove 10% crit chance
2nd will remove 45 speed
3rd will remove 45% hp
So she would be sitting on 161 for at least her first two turns (as long as nobody faster than 161 hits her before turn 1). Definitely seems a great buff for her. Wish I had her already lol
I agree about a great buff, just take into account that debuffing her to 1 out of 3 might just take an assisted atk (like GS) or a maybe a multi atk like Rey.. Actually Rey could just kill her straight I guess
Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!
Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.
AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!
HOLY **** ****!
She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her.
I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.
Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.
I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.
It's not her by herself that shines as top in arena, it's her Synergy with QGJ and Yoda.
Her basic actually hits for 3K reg - 4.5K crit and she crits more often than not see as she has the highest crit in the game. Not to mention with QGJ and Yoda your guaranteed to kill one person before anyone goes. Even if you don't attack with Yoda first round for battle medatations to counter Dooku stun. You can still take out anyone under 11K hp with her basic and QGJ call in. Saving her special for finishing someone in the second round or healing the team if needed.
Jedi team still won't be very good on D but can now be more competitive for top rank. And with so many people having to abandon all causes if they want Yoda, this makes it actually pay off without making Jedi OP.
@Megadeth3700
You are simply regurgitating information from the database, which anyone else can do. An experienced player would know (and I assume you are) that the damage portrayed on the website is not what you will see when applied in-game. That is assuming the attack is done on 0 defence, along with other factors.
I can give you a quick example. RP, on the database is said to hit 4484-4953. In an arena match, RP will hit 3700-3800, which is a gap of almost 1 thousand. I am not wrong when I say her first hit will be weak if you don't use her ability.
You are incorrect on this one. I have her max gear at 6* and use her in arena for fun, and yes against 7* 70 characters. She hits for around 2.5k reg and 4k crits on basic attacks so 7*. Her basic at 7* will be equal or greater than Lumi.
You just proved yourself wrong. The point I was getting across is that Ahsoka won't hit as high as the website states, therefore it is incorrect to assume she will hit 3k, with 4.5k crits. Also, I don't know why you made reference to Lumi's basic, nobody said it was any good, its just a simple hit like most other characters.
I meant you were incorrect in your evaluation of Ahsoka's in game damage, yes I agree there is variance in the site stats and the game.
The real debate is that you stated "your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match". But the whole reason any numbers were mention was to state that with QGJ, Ahsoka, Yoda you are guaranteed first kill (aside from lucky dodge) thus stating that her value is within their synergy. She almost always crits (which in game is over 4k maxed out). That combined with QGJ assist attack = death to most players. And this is without attacking with Yoda first round. So now your immune to debuffs and got first kill and you still have her special ability for second round, which she will likely be able to use on someone below half health resetting her passive while solidifying the win.
Having said that I do agree with you that overall as a character she isn't very spectacular. But the three together make a deadly combo in the current Meta.
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I actually find it the reverse on my server. There are tons of different teams and diversity in my server. In GW, i just use the same teams to confirm my rewards. Most people, at least from what I read here on the forum, also have their go-to teams to finish GW and GW itself is populated with the least variety of team comps.
I can see that point of view. But as I get older, going to extremes to be competitive just doesn't do much for me. I prefer GW because I can mess with my team more and play with new ideas. Completing it with a single A team is fine and all, but once you've done that 75 times, it just becomes an exercise in BLAH for rewards. Good rewards, mind you. But still BLAH. It is a daily chore. But it is one that I can stand now that I have a bigger bench and I can mess with stuff.
And that is where arena is with me. It is an exercise in BLAH. My arena ladder doesn't have any variety in it at the top. It is the same veriations of about 3 or 4 different teams. I see far more variety in GW.
As to why to max rather than hoard, the answer is because CG seemingly randomly picks whom they are going to buff and whether they are going to get a good buff (Royal Guard, Ahsoka) or a horrible one (Mace). This thread could just as easily have been about Mob Enforcer or Jedi Knight Guardian.
Agreed. My arena has been so much more active with more diverse teams since they nerfed Poe. Before nerfing Poe, everyone had the same team and it was the same teams who had 7* Poe in the top 10.
One final thing about arena. The only thing that makes arena vaguely interesting is meeting the other people in your ladder here on the forums and then talking a little good natured trash. The people make it fun, not the pointless ranking system were anyone can beat anyone and it's all about last minute sniping and combat locks.
Never met one, thats why we need more content. Whats about guilds?
I did get QGJ and Ahsoka from chromiums early on in the game, but most of my crystals have been spent on 3 refreshes of Cantina daily. I found it the best use of energy to max JC, Kylo Ren, GS, Mace, and Dooku. Almost maxed Barriss. I have been playing since November and originally started with 3 healers (Barris, JC, and Lumi), Sid, and Ahsoka/QGJ from Jedi Pack.
Btw, sadly I maxed JKG for Yoda event. I thought news about her buff would make her viable, but she will never again see the light of day.
Yea, ever since the Poe nerf I have seen Droids, QGJ(L) teams, Phasma teams, poggle teams, ST Han + Poe + 3 DPS teams, etc.
There is a ton of diversity, at least on my server. I know not every server is like this, but I feel that is why I like my arena more. My GW is literally "Phasma lead, Sid, Dooku, Lumi, +1 other" every frakking node.
You are simply regurgitating information from the database, which anyone else can do. An experienced player would know (and I assume you are) that the damage portrayed on the website is not what you will see when applied in-game. That is assuming the attack is done on 0 defence, along with other factors.
I can give you a quick example. RP, on the database is said to hit 4484-4953. In an arena match, RP will hit 3700-3800, which is a gap of almost 1 thousand. I am not wrong when I say her first hit will be weak if you don't use her ability.
You are incorrect on this one. I have her max gear at 6* and use her in arena for fun, and yes against 7* 70 characters. She hits for around 2.5k reg and 4k crits on basic attacks so 7*. Her basic at 7* will be equal or greater than Lumi.
Therefore, being modest, in arena first round her basic will crit at least 4k. followed by QGJ assist = death for anyone under 11K
You just proved yourself wrong. The point I was getting across is that Ahsoka won't hit as high as the website states, therefore it is incorrect to assume she will hit 3k, with 4.5k crits. Also, I don't know why you made reference to Lumi's basic, nobody said it was any good, its just a simple hit like most other characters.
Did RG get a speed increase? Nope. Yet still a completely viable toon for top meta teams. Mace sucks because his kit is garbage. Phasma's speed is 121; still a completely viable toon. Kylo is regularly used on Phasma/Poe teams. Droids are still regularly used hidden behind Poe or RG. Daka is only 136 without Asajj and seen all over the place. There a plenty of non speed meta toons that get used.
One of the regular complaints on the forums is that nothing holds on defense because almost anything wins on offense. Yet, somehow, according to you, if it doesn't have speed it's useless. Ok lol
I play on one of the more competitive hard launch servers. It's a completely viable top 20 or higher squad.
No, she has never been. She only provided bonuses to nightsisters with her leader skill, but she's listed only as jedi
They didn't increase RG's "speed" stat, but he now has the fastest taunt in the game.
Sure, but his point was that if they don't increase the speed of the toon that they're useless. RG never got a true speed increase. The fact that he got an 85% chance to stun when above 50% health is incredibly potent too. Poe got a speed decrease and is still a viable tank. Han, with only 121 speed is seen here and there. A guy on my shard named Manytanks competes for top 5 spot with Han.
Speed, while certainly the fotm stat, is not the end all be all. There are totally viable teams that are not built to be at 143 speed or higher.
Edit:
Depending on the team match up Poe would still have a "faster" taunt. On a cookie cutter droid team:
- HK47 leader (97)
- IG88 (118)
- IG86 (116)
- Poggle (142)
- Poe (142)
Many people still run this squad and it functions very well on offense. It just crumbles on defense.
I agree about a great buff, just take into account that debuffing her to 1 out of 3 might just take an assisted atk (like GS) or a maybe a multi atk like Rey.. Actually Rey could just kill her straight I guess
I meant you were incorrect in your evaluation of Ahsoka's in game damage, yes I agree there is variance in the site stats and the game.
The real debate is that you stated "your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match". But the whole reason any numbers were mention was to state that with QGJ, Ahsoka, Yoda you are guaranteed first kill (aside from lucky dodge) thus stating that her value is within their synergy. She almost always crits (which in game is over 4k maxed out). That combined with QGJ assist attack = death to most players. And this is without attacking with Yoda first round. So now your immune to debuffs and got first kill and you still have her special ability for second round, which she will likely be able to use on someone below half health resetting her passive while solidifying the win.
Having said that I do agree with you that overall as a character she isn't very spectacular. But the three together make a deadly combo in the current Meta.