Ahsoka at 161 speed !!

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  • Arube
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    Spartamaj wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Spartamaj wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Barrok wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Lol, the math is weak in this thread. :D

    Anyways, HOLY **** ****!!!!!!!!!

    Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!

    Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.

    AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!

    HOLY **** ****!

    She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her. ;)

    I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.

    Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.

    I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.

    Or you don't use her with qgj. She may not be overkill but she will be very strong.

    There is no point using any Jedi without a QGJ lead (obviously there are the 3 exceptions).
    I don't see how not using her with a QGJ lead will change anything that I stated in my OP.

    Because she can then use her special on someone with low health.

    Alright, fair enough, but you can do better with Luminara or Daka in her spot.
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    Arube wrote: »
    Spartamaj wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Spartamaj wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Barrok wrote: »
    Arube wrote: »
    Lol, the math is weak in this thread. :D

    Anyways, HOLY **** ****!!!!!!!!!

    Her speed is tied with Dooku and she has 12.5k HP!

    Her special does ~7k damage (~9.3k crit) if the target is under 50% health. If the target is above 50% health, she heals the team for 5k HP.

    AND SHE HAS THE HIGHEST CRIT CHANCE IN THE GAME!

    HOLY **** ****!

    She's going on my arena team immediately. Glad I 7*ed her. ;)

    I still don't see a practical use for her. She adds nothing to a team other than speed.

    Hmmph? Speed, damage and healing? All with one character? Geez, she is a top tier character based on her stats.

    I get what you're saying, but the Healing will only take into effect after the first turn, and depending on the team you are facing, the outcome could already have been decided. Ahsoka, at her current speed will go first, or near first, and your only option is to use a weak attack that will hit 2k, or use her healing ability which will put it on cooldown for the rest of the match.

    Or you don't use her with qgj. She may not be overkill but she will be very strong.

    There is no point using any Jedi without a QGJ lead (obviously there are the 3 exceptions).
    I don't see how not using her with a QGJ lead will change anything that I stated in my OP.

    Because she can then use her special on someone with low health.

    Alright, fair enough, but you can do better with Luminara or Daka in her spot.

    Not sure about that bur we will see
  • Mythov
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    So who wants to bet $5 that the devs didnt mess up & Ahsoka's speed and life start as buffs we can see & yoda can steal?
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    Cantina must be driving millions sales by the week. All buffs on Cantina, except for Poe that was "insert obligatory rant here".
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    The new top of the line arena team is QGJ, Annie, Snips, Yoda, Lumi (this spot could change, but for now I'd say it's her). Unless you are fighting Rebels you have 4 of the first 5 spots, a decent chance to use Annie's off up and then Lumi busts out a serious damage ability block or a safety heal for the next round
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    Guys where is the announcement?
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    The new top of the line arena team is QGJ, Annie, Snips, Yoda, Lumi (this spot could change, but for now I'd say it's her). Unless you are fighting Rebels you have 4 of the first 5 spots, a decent chance to use Annie's off up and then Lumi busts out a serious damage ability block or a safety heal for the next round

    im not a huge anakin fan. i would consider either Dooku or Poggle in that spot, maybe even GS. Rey of course if you have her.
  • Telaan
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    Qeltar wrote: »
    And this is why I have 20,000 Cantina credits hoarded. ;)

    Don't you have like 45k bronzium and 20k arena?

    You may have a hoarding problem.

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    Baggodi wrote: »
    Cantina is a mess right now.

    Daka
    Poe
    Qgj
    Snips

    Sigh

    *This*

    why does the slowest one to farm have to have everyone I want??!! Lol

    Because cantina is the cash cow
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    Benr3600 wrote: »
    If she is a little slower than QGJ, that is perfect. QGJ leads with harmonious assault on a squishy, Ahsoka's under 50% bonus damage finishes them for sure. Will have to fight with no group heal though.

    Wrong! In the 2nd turn, after she gets a crit damage from enemy losing one of his unique bonus, she will have the opportunity to use harmonious assault to finish a damaged opponent and take bonus back :)
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    Slewfoot wrote: »
    The new top of the line arena team is QGJ, Annie, Snips, Yoda, Lumi (this spot could change, but for now I'd say it's her). Unless you are fighting Rebels you have 4 of the first 5 spots, a decent chance to use Annie's off up and then Lumi busts out a serious damage ability block or a safety heal for the next round

    im not a huge anakin fan. i would consider either Dooku or Poggle in that spot, maybe even GS. Rey of course if you have her.

    Dooku, GS and Poggle could be useful (so could HRS for me at 7*) if you have someone else at 7 I'd go with them

    But Annie kinda forces you to attack him first or you risk the free turn with extra damage. Most teams will focus on Yoda or QGJ kill One and then Anakin attack, kill another he attacks again. He's got decent health so if you do focus on him the other get plenty of attacks.

    Plenty of good teams out there now
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  • Zekex
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    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.
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    According to Jesses post +25 speed. They are 20 off on that site. 93+23+25=141 not 161 sorry she isw not Dooku speed, but moves into viable speed for sure.
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    According to Jesses post +25 speed. They are 20 off on that site. 93+23+25=141 not 161 sorry she isw not Dooku speed, but moves into viable speed for sure.

    Jesse posted lvl 1 abilities. Once upgraded to lvl 6 she gets +45 speed.
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    According to Jesses post +25 speed. They are 20 off on that site. 93+23+25=141 not 161 sorry she isw not Dooku speed, but moves into viable speed for sure.

    Jesse posted lvl 1 abilities. Once upgraded to lvl 6 she gets +45 speed.

    Her at Dooku speed, very nice glad I farmed her for Yoda.
  • Telaan
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    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

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    Telaan wrote: »
    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

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    Yes I'm with you, very confused by that comment. Another viable character for arena makes me very happy.
  • Greg1920
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    Telaan wrote: »
    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

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    The meta is still burst damage with speed. Making a charactor faster just displaced a slower one from viability. It just forces everyone to farm the next speed dealer until we approach ludicrous speed.

    Balancing is increasing the viable styles and total number of toons. Red Guard made more toons viable. This just pushes HRS or Poe or Dooku down one notch.
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    Qeltar wrote: »
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    And this is why I have 20,000 Cantina credits hoarded. ;)

    Don't you have like 45k bronzium and 20k arena?

    You may have a hoarding problem.

    Currently 50k bronzium, 20k Cantina, 37k arena (using those on HK-47 now or they would be more) and 40k GW.

    I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM I CAN STOP ANYTIME I WANT.

    *ahem*

    Seriously though bronzium I am saving because I still hope someday it will be updated (I realize I might be losing out on some good stuff as I wait). GW I simply don't have anything I want or need, arena I wasn't sure either but am pre-emptively getting stuff for this droid event in case it is good. Cantina was a pure "wait for the next update" move though 8k of that is basically spoken for to get Jinn to 7*.

    I was hoarding Bronzium for the same reason. I figured they might give us something better to do with them for a limited time. Maybe something for a holiday. I was around 35k and then my OCD got triggered and that little red light was taunting me every time I logged in.
  • Zekex
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    edited March 2016
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    Telaan wrote: »
    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

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    it's still speed, speed and more speed. There are still no options to play anything else besides high speed dps. Diversity in gameplay is still lacking
  • Zekex
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    Greg1920 wrote: »

    The meta is still burst damage with speed. Making a charactor faster just displaced a slower one from viability. It just forces everyone to farm the next speed dealer until we approach ludicrous speed.

    Balancing is increasing the viable styles and total number of toons. Red Guard made more toons viable. This just pushes HRS or Poe or Dooku down one notch.

    +1000
  • Telaan
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    edited March 2016
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    Greg1920 wrote: »
    Telaan wrote: »
    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

    image_zpsitiuyvfw.jpeg

    The meta is still burst damage with speed. Making a charactor faster just displaced a slower one from viability. It just forces everyone to farm the next speed dealer until we approach ludicrous speed.

    Balancing is increasing the viable styles and total number of toons. Red Guard made more toons viable. This just pushes HRS or Poe or Dooku down one notch.

    I honestly can't tell if you're being serious. Of course the "meta" still favors speed. But his, and now apparently your, complaint was about a lack of diversity and balance. Those are two totally separate issues from your gripes about the meta. You can have balance within the meta and simultaneously increase diversity by introducing new meta viable toons. They are not mutually exclusive.

    This appears to be your first video game. I'll let you in on a secret: there will always be a meta, or fotm, that favors certain archetypes, abilities, stats, and/or aspects within the game. This cannot be eliminated. Pure balance is a myth. That being said, pure speed teams are not a necessity to even be competitive for top 10 ranks. Let's just put the brakes on the hyperbole.

    The buff of Ahsoka doesn't eliminate any of those toons you listed from being viable. It simply adds another tool to the toolbox. I'm sorry that you're unable to recognize any of these simple truths.
  • Telaan
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    Zekex wrote: »
    Telaan wrote: »
    Zekex wrote: »
    WIth this change, I have lost all remaining faith in the dev's ability to balance and diversify the arena.Won't be investing another cent in this game.

    A change that makes a toon viable in arena which hasn't been competitively seen there since launch isn't adding to diversity? Implementing a change that allows a totally broken and unusable toon to be used in meta arena teams isn't balancing?

    image_zpsitiuyvfw.jpeg

    it's still speed, speed and more speed. There are still no options to play anything else besides high speed dps. Diversity in gameplay is still lacking

    That's total bull. If that were true neither Phasma or Kylo would be capable of being in top 10 teams. They are.
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    EA should have buffed y'all IQ.

    This made me chuckle lol.
  • DV_27
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    I love snips new kit. But sadly I still need one more star for qgj and two more to max daka. Might be a while before I can get her :( just gonna keep using the hard nodes for now
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    Soo, she loses her evasion up and her leader skill is basically a weaker version of old ben's right?
  • bleeaauuh
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    12.5k hp 161 speed I like it
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    Definitely makes her viable which is good. I really don't think it will shake things up a ton and it seems like most people have her starred up at least due to the yoda event.
    bleeaauuh wrote: »
    12.5k hp 161 speed I like it

    I'm expecting the speed buff to drop after the first turn (which is the important turn anyway) and we will see how it flows if she is able to score killing blows to get it back.

    As mentioned, game balance is a continual process. The goal is to always be approaching "balance" but in reality it's never reached. This is a great step to make a hero viable and says that EA/CG are trying to make/keep the game playable.
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    Telaan wrote: »
    Qeltar wrote: »
    And this is why I have 20,000 Cantina credits hoarded. ;)

    Don't you have like 45k bronzium and 20k arena?

    You may have a hoarding problem.

    @InternetSwag

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    :worried: you keep saving those, I wonder if there's a cap on how many you can have.
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  • ilyanor
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    Thanks God..
    I can remember when in early december i pulled her in a bronzium pack and i decided to star her up with 300 cantina tokens while everyone said "go for Daka, asoka is sh..t" (it was true :D) but now.. now my faith in you, little Snips will be rewarded!
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