Yes they are. You don't NEED to do refreshes. You just need to start farming in time.
I'm 10 shards away from 7* FOST, but I haven't spent a single crystal refreshing either FOTP or FOST.
I admit, that I started some time around july - but it is still very much doable with out paying.
I know the salt doesn't taste well, but if a toon is availble in cantina or hard nodes, it is very much farmable and F2P. Saying otherwise just shows that you lack dedication.
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
Panic farm! Panic farm!
I used to have a list of who I was going to farm and what order I was going to farm them.
I can't remember the last time I wasn't panic farming someone, so, I'm just going to trash the list.
Please, right before i can finish this panic farm, tell me who the next one will be so i never have a break.
Wouldn’t it be nice to farm the characters that we actually wanted to play instead of panic farming....
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
That is the silliest question I've ever seen on this forum
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
That is the silliest question I've ever seen on this forum
Can you awnser the question though? Please note the context.
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
That is the silliest question I've ever seen on this forum
There are no silly question on this forum, only Goobers
Currently farming Shore, (5 sims) Krennic, (5 sims) and all three FOST nodes and have enough energy to do that without buying refreshes. It's more than doable, especially if they add DD's.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
That is the silliest question I've ever seen on this forum
There are no silly question on this forum, only Goobers
I think all of this speculation on the VS Duo being required is probably pretty right.... but if we look at Luke's Journey, all of the characters had (and Old Ben got) a "Rebel" tag. Do we think VS Han/Chewie will get a "Resistance" tag?
What we all have to remember is that this franchise is being managed by a large corporation. Disney didn’t pay $1B for the love of the franchise. The parent company could care less whether any of us has an “enjoyable experience” only that we’ll continue to pump money into this game. Therefore, there is absolutely no way Rey is the only character requirement. Too easy. Where is the money in that? I’m willing to bet that the veteran smugglers will be required at 7*. Rey will be OP (see CLS) so a select group of whales will spare no expense to get her. Casual players will probably drop money on packs and refreshes in vain without a snowball’s chance in H**l of getting her. Panic farming is the whole basis of this cash cow. Until that cow drops dead, they will milk all of us for every last cent. Given that the Star Wars franchise has survived for over 30 years, that there bovine is still plenty healthy.
Game theory says that if everyone cooperated and remained f2p, then we would all win... but whales are going to ruin it for everyone as per usual.
I would just like to point out that if everyone was f2p, there would be no game. Whales, dolphins and even guppies pay so the f2p player has a game to play. You should be thanking those who spend their disposable income to support the game - not subtly insulting them.
Guppies and maybe dolphins, but definitely not the whales and krakens. They're the enablers that justify releases like this. It might actually be necessary to focus on compelling enjoyable content if the puppet strings weren't already attached to the big spenders and the game experience had to stand on its own.
So far today, I have used all 5 sims for shore and two sims on DS 2-A (124 energy spent so far)
Currently have 29 energy with just under an hour till the 12 noon drop.
I have 135 free energy coming my way today, giving me 161.
Yet to spend:
Krennic (100)
DS 2-A (36)
LS 9-A (100)
LS 2-B (60)
Total 296 yet to spend.
You earn energy at a rate of 1 every 6 mins, so I will receive 10 per hour (6 / 60)
So by Payout, I currently have 29 + 45 free Noon drop + 60 accrued energy + 45 Payout energy = 179
By the time of the final free energy drop, (3 hours later) I will have + 30 accrued + 45 free, another 75 giving me 254... which is 42 short... Oh.
Ahem. Even though I have just proved myself to be completely wrong in my previous post, I have enjoyed drilling this down, I must have started with more energy for that day or something.
It's given me a better idea on my FOST farming strategy so thank you @Gawejn for calling me out on this!
The game suffers a lot from not having decent catch up mechanics, so you can't just flat out say "you should have farmed this a long time ago", or "save your crystals". People who have been playing for half a year or less simply don't have that luxury.
Been a while since I've really posted, but this statement caught my interest as it is one of two fundamental truths about this game. Which are:
1. The new characters are the content, and they generally will aim to get the largest slice of the player base to pay. This means: late requirement notices, packs that will get you a 5* unlock, and meta breaking toons (CLS is the new kid on the block, but its been happening since Nihilus.)
2. There really is no catch up mechanic. Argue about it as long as you want, but when I had to work for 7 months in an area without cell service, I have not been able to catch my shard. This particular meta has treated me well due to the Zarriss counter meta team (I had or was finishing most of these toons) and because I farm speed mods enough to get to the rank I want (quite literally the shard is the same 3 squads and a bunch of speed tiers-when I'm busy these days and drop a bit I can very easily get back to the top 20 because I simply out-speed those above 20), but it is very likely that the next one will not. Even though I am doing well in arena I am 1/2 mil or more GP behind my shard, and very likely they will get the next meta toon (or have old toons if there is synergy there) and I will not. I'll drop, they'll stay, and the ones who can't take the hit will pay.
My recommendation to those who want to break this cycle is either bust out your wallet and never look back and then find a guild full of fun people to talk to (note: GP, TB stars, and all that other stuff isn't part of this), or just put your wallet away and go find a fun guild anyways. The community is what makes this game; the development is shoddy at best (raid ticket bug) and the community management always seems to have a hand tied behind their backs.
Get over it, move on, and enjoy the fact that you can make friends with cool Star Wars fans around the world. At the end of the day Yoda and 3 or 4 clones beat a bunch of AAT tanks and we as a community just beat one.... Its just a game, and if winning is that important to you then perhaps you should realize that the strategy in the game is just to have the best mods on the newest toons, and that is fundamentally uninteresting. Star Wars makes it cool, and the community is deserving of a much better game than this. In the meantime go kill 5 random snowtroopers 5 days a week and may the force be with you!
I see very little chance of vets needed for hero Rey.
Name an event that required ptp toons?
Every event has been toons that are obtainable by most players.
Not easy to get but at least conceivable, that a ftp could have them
What we all have to remember is that this franchise is being managed by a large corporation. Disney didn’t pay $1B for the love of the franchise. The parent company could care less whether any of us has an “enjoyable experience” only that we’ll continue to pump money into this game. Therefore, there is absolutely no way Rey is the only character requirement. Too easy. Where is the money in that? I’m willing to bet that the veteran smugglers will be required at 7*. Rey will be OP (see CLS) so a select group of whales will spare no expense to get her. Casual players will probably drop money on packs and refreshes in vain without a snowball’s chance in H**l of getting her. Panic farming is the whole basis of this cash cow. Until that cow drops dead, they will milk all of us for every last cent. Given that the Star Wars franchise has survived for over 30 years, that there bovine is still plenty healthy.
Game theory says that if everyone cooperated and remained f2p, then we would all win... but whales are going to ruin it for everyone as per usual.
I would just like to point out that if everyone was f2p, there would be no game. Whales, dolphins and even guppies pay so the f2p player has a game to play. You should be thanking those who spend their disposable income to support the game - not subtly insulting them.
Guppies and maybe dolphins, but definitely not the whales and krakens. They're the enablers that justify releases like this. It might actually be necessary to focus on compelling enjoyable content if the puppet strings weren't already attached to the big spenders and the game experience had to stand on its own.
@snowhut
I'm not sure if i'm getting this right, but you think that because the whales and krakens are willing to spend large sums of money, it ins't necessary (anymore) to focus on compelling, enjoyable content?
If that is what you're saying, i'm curious to know the reasoning behind that statement.
Just like a casino.
The big spenders don't equal the revenue of the combined amount of the little guys.
It's the 10-20 $ a week players that support this game.
The big spenders don't equal the revenue of the combined amount of the little guys.
It's the 10-20 $ a week players hat support this game.
Correct. But they made grave mistakes. I have spend a little in the past - but the zombie and ghost crackpot releases have removed any chance of me doing that again, ever!
Just like a casino.
The big spenders don't equal the revenue of the combined amount of the little guys.
It's the 10-20 $ a week players that support this game.
Actually, that's not generally true when it comes to mobile games:
In game name: Lucas Gregory FORMER PLAYER - - - -"Whale blah grump poooop." - Ouchie
In game guild: TNR Uprising I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Also I don't understand why you guys are farming the DS toons. If CLS release event is anything to go by (and it sure sounds like it) then you will need her and her fellow resistance toons, that means first and foremost BB8, Finn, possibly Poe, and most certainly the two veteran Han and Chewie...
Also I don't understand why you guys are farming the DS toons. If CLS release event is anything to go by (and it sure sounds like it) then you will need her and her fellow resistance toons, that means first and foremost BB8, Finn, possibly Poe, and most certainly the two veteran Han and Chewie...
Most people will have a Resistance squad already, as unlike FO, they are useful.
I'm not convinced that this game falls into that category.
Il use myself as an example.
I might spend 10-20 per week.
Looking at my roster, I'm not a whale.
However, I've been playing for 20 months.
Do the math, it adds up
i feel like V Han and V Chewie will be made farmable 2 weeks before the events and will have a period of double drops too, however I think that maybe CG will allow 5 stars requirement for these characters and 7 Stars for BB-8, Finn and Scavenger Rey. Asking for 7 star veterans in my opinion if ridiculous however 5 stars is viable if you focus everything on them
i feel like V Han and V Chewie will be made farmable 2 weeks before the events and will have a period of double drops too, however I think that maybe CG will allow 5 stars requirement for these characters and 7 Stars for BB-8, Finn and Scavenger Rey. Asking for 7 star veterans in my opinion if ridiculous however 5 stars is viable if you focus everything on them
What would be the point for EA and CG? People will *need* to spend money to have them, that's how things work.
I see very little chance of vets needed for hero Rey.
Name an event that required ptp toons?
Every event has been toons that are obtainable by most players.
Not easy to get but at least conceivable, that a ftp could have them
The vet smugglers will be f2p farmable prior to the event. Just like Phoenix was before the Thrawn event.
since Daily Rewards for Nov2017 are FOtfp and FOtf, maybe we'll get event Tiers that awards some MilFalcon blueprints
is it not possible to also release a sort of event similar to the Ghost of Dathomir ones where we can get the Veteran Smugglers shards.
i've the same speculations :
CLS-7* or bust! hence,
1.) Artoo is to BB-8
2.) Leia is to VS Chewie
3.) Farmboy is to Rey (scav)
4.) STH is to Finn
5.) oldBen is to VS HanSolo (same vader oldben sacrifice scene)
and a weird event similar to TheForceAwakens scene where Finn&Rey went up against the FOtiefighters
similar to us using FO to get BB-8, we might be using the FO tiefighter (daily login reward) to try and take down the MiL Falcon?? - this is a lot farfetched though since the FOtf have to lose.
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Yes they are. You don't NEED to do refreshes. You just need to start farming in time.
I'm 10 shards away from 7* FOST, but I haven't spent a single crystal refreshing either FOTP or FOST.
I admit, that I started some time around july - but it is still very much doable with out paying.
I know the salt doesn't taste well, but if a toon is availble in cantina or hard nodes, it is very much farmable and F2P. Saying otherwise just shows that you lack dedication.
Wouldn’t it be nice to farm the characters that we actually wanted to play instead of panic farming....
I was the same way.
To farm this you need 420 energy, but daily you can have 375. So how?
That is the silliest question I've ever seen on this forum
Can you awnser the question though? Please note the context.
1+ 1 still equals 2
Either he is refreshing or he is not doing all that
yea obviously. Asking him how he does that is a polite way to call that guy a liar... Not that silly imo.
There are no silly question on this forum, only Goobers
Now that is funny.
Guppies and maybe dolphins, but definitely not the whales and krakens. They're the enablers that justify releases like this. It might actually be necessary to focus on compelling enjoyable content if the puppet strings weren't already attached to the big spenders and the game experience had to stand on its own.
Currently have 29 energy with just under an hour till the 12 noon drop.
I have 135 free energy coming my way today, giving me 161.
Yet to spend:
Krennic (100)
DS 2-A (36)
LS 9-A (100)
LS 2-B (60)
Total 296 yet to spend.
You earn energy at a rate of 1 every 6 mins, so I will receive 10 per hour (6 / 60)
So by Payout, I currently have 29 + 45 free Noon drop + 60 accrued energy + 45 Payout energy = 179
By the time of the final free energy drop, (3 hours later) I will have + 30 accrued + 45 free, another 75 giving me 254... which is 42 short... Oh.
Ahem. Even though I have just proved myself to be completely wrong in my previous post, I have enjoyed drilling this down, I must have started with more energy for that day or something.
It's given me a better idea on my FOST farming strategy so thank you @Gawejn for calling me out on this!
1. The new characters are the content, and they generally will aim to get the largest slice of the player base to pay. This means: late requirement notices, packs that will get you a 5* unlock, and meta breaking toons (CLS is the new kid on the block, but its been happening since Nihilus.)
2. There really is no catch up mechanic. Argue about it as long as you want, but when I had to work for 7 months in an area without cell service, I have not been able to catch my shard. This particular meta has treated me well due to the Zarriss counter meta team (I had or was finishing most of these toons) and because I farm speed mods enough to get to the rank I want (quite literally the shard is the same 3 squads and a bunch of speed tiers-when I'm busy these days and drop a bit I can very easily get back to the top 20 because I simply out-speed those above 20), but it is very likely that the next one will not. Even though I am doing well in arena I am 1/2 mil or more GP behind my shard, and very likely they will get the next meta toon (or have old toons if there is synergy there) and I will not. I'll drop, they'll stay, and the ones who can't take the hit will pay.
My recommendation to those who want to break this cycle is either bust out your wallet and never look back and then find a guild full of fun people to talk to (note: GP, TB stars, and all that other stuff isn't part of this), or just put your wallet away and go find a fun guild anyways. The community is what makes this game; the development is shoddy at best (raid ticket bug) and the community management always seems to have a hand tied behind their backs.
Get over it, move on, and enjoy the fact that you can make friends with cool Star Wars fans around the world. At the end of the day Yoda and 3 or 4 clones beat a bunch of AAT tanks and we as a community just beat one.... Its just a game, and if winning is that important to you then perhaps you should realize that the strategy in the game is just to have the best mods on the newest toons, and that is fundamentally uninteresting. Star Wars makes it cool, and the community is deserving of a much better game than this. In the meantime go kill 5 random snowtroopers 5 days a week and may the force be with you!
RO premiered on Dec. 16th - same date TLJ will.
Baze+Chirrut were released on Nov 14th and Jyn was released in a tournament on Dec 17th.
I think that's the point. Like always they want us to panic farm.
Name an event that required ptp toons?
Every event has been toons that are obtainable by most players.
Not easy to get but at least conceivable, that a ftp could have them
@snowhut
I'm not sure if i'm getting this right, but you think that because the whales and krakens are willing to spend large sums of money, it ins't necessary (anymore) to focus on compelling, enjoyable content?
If that is what you're saying, i'm curious to know the reasoning behind that statement.
The big spenders don't equal the revenue of the combined amount of the little guys.
It's the 10-20 $ a week players that support this game.
Correct. But they made grave mistakes. I have spend a little in the past - but the zombie and ghost crackpot releases have removed any chance of me doing that again, ever!
Actually, that's not generally true when it comes to mobile games:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/03/01/why-its-scary-when-0-15-mobile-gamers-bring-in-50-of-the-revenue/#48d51f7d4065
In game guild: TNR Uprising
I beat the REAL T7 Yoda (not the nerfed one) and did so before mods were there to help
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Most people will have a Resistance squad already, as unlike FO, they are useful.
Il use myself as an example.
I might spend 10-20 per week.
Looking at my roster, I'm not a whale.
However, I've been playing for 20 months.
Do the math, it adds up
It also says that if everyone cooperated and remained f2p, this game would not exist.
What would be the point for EA and CG? People will *need* to spend money to have them, that's how things work.
The vet smugglers will be f2p farmable prior to the event. Just like Phoenix was before the Thrawn event.
since Daily Rewards for Nov2017 are FOtfp and FOtf, maybe we'll get event Tiers that awards some MilFalcon blueprints
is it not possible to also release a sort of event similar to the Ghost of Dathomir ones where we can get the Veteran Smugglers shards.
i've the same speculations :
CLS-7* or bust! hence,
1.) Artoo is to BB-8
2.) Leia is to VS Chewie
3.) Farmboy is to Rey (scav)
4.) STH is to Finn
5.) oldBen is to VS HanSolo (same vader oldben sacrifice scene)
and a weird event similar to TheForceAwakens scene where Finn&Rey went up against the FOtiefighters
similar to us using FO to get BB-8, we might be using the FO tiefighter (daily login reward) to try and take down the MiL Falcon?? - this is a lot farfetched though since the FOtf have to lose.
all speculations of course!
HeeeeeLp us DarthRevan! you're our only hope!