Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
Sith Marauder and Sith Assassin were both in KOTOR2 as well. Sith Trooper is from SWTOR.
The classed existed, but the abilities and likenesses are from SWTOR for both.
Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
This would be the perfect way to roll out Darth Malak, Darth Malgus or, dare I hope, Darth Revan.
Traya is cool, but they don't really need a Sith healer as much as they need a tank
Sith Trooper is a beast under Palp(Z).
Starts with 100% defense and gains Defense up for 2 turns at the beginning of the encounter.
Gains 5% protection up for each debuffed enemy when he uses his special.
Starts w/ D up and then gains taunt when a sith uses a special and retribution when a sith ally uses a special ability while he has taunt.
His basic has a 70% chance to inflict defense down
Palps leader gives 35% max health and he recovers 20% health when inflicting a debuff.
Stack him deep with health and protection. No real need for speed as he doesn’t need to go quickly and he will gain 5% TM everytime an enemies debuff expires.
This would be the perfect way to roll out Darth Malak, Darth Malgus or, dare I hope, Darth Revan.
Traya is cool, but they don't really need a Sith healer as much as they need a tank
Sith Trooper is a beast under Palp(Z).
Starts with 100% defense and gains Defense up for 2 turns at the beginning of the encounter.
Gains 5% protection up for each debuffed enemy when he uses his special.
Starts w/ D up and then gains taunt when a sith uses a special and retribution when a sith ally uses a special ability while he has taunt.
His basic has a 70% chance to inflict defense down
Palps leader gives 35% max health and he recovers 20% health when inflicting a debuff.
Stack him deep with health and protection. No real need for speed as he doesn’t need to go quickly and he will gain 5% TM everytime an enemies debuff expires.
Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
Sith Marauder and Sith Assassin were both in KOTOR2 as well. Sith Trooper is from SWTOR.
The classed existed, but the abilities and likenesses are from SWTOR for both.
Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
Sith Marauder and Sith Assassin were both in KOTOR2 as well. Sith Trooper is from SWTOR.
The classed existed, but the abilities and likenesses are from SWTOR for both.
Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
Sith Marauder and Sith Assassin were both in KOTOR2 as well. Sith Trooper is from SWTOR.
The classed existed, but the abilities and likenesses are from SWTOR for both.
Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
Hate to say what everyone is probably afraid of, but I could totally see it being a light side toon. Isn’t the canon version of Revan a LS male? That, or maybe someone like Bastila as the reward for defeating the Sith in the raid. I think if Revan comes into the game he’s gonna be LS.
Hate to say what everyone is probably afraid of, but I could totally see it being a light side toon. Isn’t the canon version of Revan a LS male? That, or maybe someone like Bastila as the reward for defeating the Sith in the raid. I think if Revan comes into the game he’s gonna be LS.
Dont believe there is presently a canon version of Revan, but the cut/undeveloped "Rebels" scene displays him as dark side.
But I could definitely see the devs putting Revan into this game as LS to frontline a Jedi rework
Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
Sith Marauder and Sith Assassin were both in KOTOR2 as well. Sith Trooper is from SWTOR.
The classed existed, but the abilities and likenesses are from SWTOR for both.
Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
It's possible they didn't want to put out two versions each of these unnamed characters, so went with the later versions, which look cooler. Consider it a redesign.
Hate to say what everyone is probably afraid of, but I could totally see it being a light side toon. Isn’t the canon version of Revan a LS male? That, or maybe someone like Bastila as the reward for defeating the Sith in the raid. I think if Revan comes into the game he’s gonna be LS.
Dont believe there is presently a canon version of Revan, but the cut/undeveloped "Rebels" scene displays him as dark side.
But I could definitely see the devs putting Revan into this game as LS to frontline a Jedi rework
Well, we have a hint at Revan for, Episode 8‘s Visual Art book. One of the goodies in Lukes shed on Ach‘to is a Kyber crystal from the light sabre of a Jedi crusader (Revan was a Jedi Crusader)
Meetra would make a good reward for this. I don’t see it super likely thy would give us a reward that wasn’t part of that raids lore. IE, gk is from the clone war era and Han Solo fits very well into the rancor raid. It would need to be someone from that story. I initially thought the Sith Marauder was from swtor but it appears I was quite wrong. If he had been from swtor I would have suspected a different reward. But now I’d really suspect a meetra like reward. It would be really nice to have a dark side raid reward character though.... we have two lightside ones now.
Sith Trooper, Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder are all SWTOR OG Sith Empire, noone in Revan’s Sith Empire looked like that.
You say that and yes they are in swtor to a degree. But after researching it a bit. The versions we got appear to be from Kotor 2. As is DN of course. I hoped for swtor because that opens up a lot of other characters I want however it looks like we got original versions of those characters ie kotor 2 not the storm mmorpg versions. The raid we are getting is definitly kotor 2 as that’s the only spot those characters are. I suspect they got all the licensing from obsidian somehow but even though they are ea don’t really have permission on kotor/swtor characters because we don’t have any of them.
I hate these new timesinks called Tb/tw. Annoying features.
I can't believe no one is hyped for Kreia, I think she's an amazing character and could be an amazing leader overall, not just for for sith but everyone, kinda like GK
I dunno she was pretty cool in her own way but she wasn’t sion/dn cool imo. She wasn’t even tenebrea cool.
I hate these new timesinks called Tb/tw. Annoying features.
Hate to say what everyone is probably afraid of, but I could totally see it being a light side toon. Isn’t the canon version of Revan a LS male? That, or maybe someone like Bastila as the reward for defeating the Sith in the raid. I think if Revan comes into the game he’s gonna be LS.
Dont believe there is presently a canon version of Revan, but the cut/undeveloped "Rebels" scene displays him as dark side.
But I could definitely see the devs putting Revan into this game as LS to frontline a Jedi rework
Well, we have a hint at Revan for, Episode 8‘s Visual Art book. One of the goodies in Lukes shed on Ach‘to is a Kyber crystal from the light sabre of a Jedi crusader (Revan was a Jedi Crusader)
Don't forgot that the lucasfilm storygroup tease the return of a lot of legend's character and content so....
My idea and I have already been ridiculed by my guild mates for this is to hBe each of the triumvant be a boss of a phase and face them together at the end. You get shards for each of them.... Multiple raid character rewards. You would use these two and DN along with ???? To u lock Malgus or reven in a legendary event a few month down the road.
Is there any possibility of Darth Bane? He was the one that ended the multiple sith style of things.and transition into the rule of two. That's just me hoping for a personal favorite
Well... The Vader/palps rework was ok, but not a legit contender against the Mary Sue meta garbage. Hopefully new sith will make them more of a contender. @CG_Kozispoon
Is there any possibility of Darth Bane? He was the one that ended the multiple sith style of things.and transition into the rule of two. That's just me hoping for a personal favorite
I would LOVE to have Bane. I would not be disappointed if he were the reward. I doubt it, based on the era of the raid, but it would be awesome.
I can't believe no one is hyped for Kreia, I think she's an amazing character and could be an amazing leader overall, not just for for sith but everyone, kinda like GK
I dunno she was pretty cool in her own way but she wasn’t sion/dn cool imo. She wasn’t even tenebrea cool.
Okay, she wasn't as powerful, but her philosophy and thoughts?? Her manipulations and machinations? She was MUCH more complex than any other character, barring PERHAPS Revan. While she may not have been more powerful than Nihilus (definitely not, Nihilius is in the top 10 of most powerful mortal force users ever), she was a more complex and, in my humble opinion, cooler character. Her ideals of existentialism and the way she portrayed everything, it was beautiful.
These are generic Sith from the original KOTOR during an encounter on Manaan. You could spec the player character as a Marauder in KOTOR 2 as one of the available prestige classes (Sith Lord and Sith Assassin were the other options) and you fought several NPC Marauders in the Trayus Academy on your way to Sion/Traya at the end. As mentioned, the look is unmistakably based in the SWTOR version of the Marauder.
They are all 3 from The Old Republic models. Not KOTOR or KOTOR 2. Source: Me, as I've been playing SWTOR since launch and still am.
Yeah, I played both KOTOR games and played through all character stories and raid content from the first few years of SWTOR. You aren’t as special as you think. The fact that the look is taken from SWTOR is not the point.
I mean all abilities’ animations are carbon copies of SWTOR Sith Assassin and Sith Marauder abilities (Stealth, Dual Saber Throw etc.)
Also both exact appearances are available in SWTOR, not so much in KOTOR
Sith Trooper is 100% SWTOR, no question about that one
My original point was that the Assassin and Marauder both first appeared in KOTOR 2, not SWTOR. The SWTOR versions of those characters are based off of KOTOR 2. So you can’t say they are definitively from SWTOR. They existed years before SWTOR was even in development.
The raids reward characters are based on Era. Han for episode 6, and GK for the clone wars. More than likely the character associated with a Sith raid with in an Old Republic time period with be Malgus, Revan, Plaguesis or even Snoke, but probably closer to one of the first two listed.
Hate to say what everyone is probably afraid of, but I could totally see it being a light side toon. Isn’t the canon version of Revan a LS male? That, or maybe someone like Bastila as the reward for defeating the Sith in the raid. I think if Revan comes into the game he’s gonna be LS.
Dont believe there is presently a canon version of Revan, but the cut/undeveloped "Rebels" scene displays him as dark side.
But I could definitely see the devs putting Revan into this game as LS to frontline a Jedi rework
Canon version of Revan was set in The Old Republic MMO storyline. Revan took the light side male path in the original KOTOR. Picture attached. However, it is a bit like saying Anakin was a light side Jedi. Revan was both depending on which point in his story you are choosing. Revan was a light side Jedi. Darth Revan was a dark side Sith. So you could have both in the GOH if you wanted.
The other interesting idea comes from the SWTOR storyline. After both KOTOR games, Revan and the Exile located the remnants of the original Sith Empire in the unknown regions of the galaxy and confronted its seemingly immortal Emperor. It did not go well. The Exile was killed and Revan ended up in a form of suspended animation while the Emperor sort of fed off of his Force connection and probed his mind for information about the Republic and its weaknesses. Revan used the connection to sow doubt in the Emperor and delay his plans to invade the Republic. Revan was eventually freed via player characters in a light side raid in The Old Republic. He later fought with dark side player characters in a similar raid.
This part of the story set Revan up as a sort of balanced character who used elements of both the light and dark. I think this is the version of Revan we should get, one who has synergies with both Jedi and Sith. It would give him a unique set of skills and potentially make him useful for more team compositions while staying true to the character.
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Underrated comment. I'd say the assassin while not a copy, is stylized more from SWTOR than KOTOR. Mauradet is without a doubt from SWTOR, as well as trooper.
However Sion, Nihilus, Traya were all from KOTOR 2, noticibly not 1. In fact, none if the old republic toons are from KOTOR 1 (exclusively).
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Sith Assassin: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/swtor/images/a/a0/****_01_FULL.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110709064642
Sith Maurader/warrior
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/7/70/SithWarrior-TORHope.png/revision/latest?cb=20121119193336
Sith Trooper
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/5b/SithTrooper-TOR.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110103225328
KOTOR/2
Sith Assassin
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/ee/Sith_****.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070225233243
Sith Maurader/Warrior (I think? Hard to find reference)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/b6/BandonsLastStandOnManaan-KOTOR.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090925213325
Sith Trooper
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e5/Sithtroopermodel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060824033808
Sith Trooper is a beast under Palp(Z).
Starts with 100% defense and gains Defense up for 2 turns at the beginning of the encounter.
Gains 5% protection up for each debuffed enemy when he uses his special.
Starts w/ D up and then gains taunt when a sith uses a special and retribution when a sith ally uses a special ability while he has taunt.
His basic has a 70% chance to inflict defense down
Palps leader gives 35% max health and he recovers 20% health when inflicting a debuff.
Stack him deep with health and protection. No real need for speed as he doesn’t need to go quickly and he will gain 5% TM everytime an enemies debuff expires.
The squad I’m building consists of:
(Z)Palp lead
(Z)Vader
Sith Trooper
Sith Marauder (when avail)
(Z) Nihilus
ShoreTrooper or Thrawn in place of Sith Marauder for now.
Would like this more than anything else!
Was considering this same set-up after I build it up myself. Have you tried it yet (with Thrawn?) If so, how is it working?
Im pretty sure HK is from are from the first game? Haven’t played but I know some stuff? Im a geek..
He's in KOTOR 1, but also KOTOR 2. No one thus far is exclusively KOTOR 1.
Dont believe there is presently a canon version of Revan, but the cut/undeveloped "Rebels" scene displays him as dark side.
But I could definitely see the devs putting Revan into this game as LS to frontline a Jedi rework
It's possible they didn't want to put out two versions each of these unnamed characters, so went with the later versions, which look cooler. Consider it a redesign.
Well, we have a hint at Revan for, Episode 8‘s Visual Art book. One of the goodies in Lukes shed on Ach‘to is a Kyber crystal from the light sabre of a Jedi crusader (Revan was a Jedi Crusader)
Yeah, unnatural is Darth Sion. You don't get more unnatural than that.
I dunno she was pretty cool in her own way but she wasn’t sion/dn cool imo. She wasn’t even tenebrea cool.
I’d be fine with that.
Don't forgot that the lucasfilm storygroup tease the return of a lot of legend's character and content so....
Just spitballin
I would LOVE to have Bane. I would not be disappointed if he were the reward. I doubt it, based on the era of the raid, but it would be awesome.
Okay, she wasn't as powerful, but her philosophy and thoughts?? Her manipulations and machinations? She was MUCH more complex than any other character, barring PERHAPS Revan. While she may not have been more powerful than Nihilus (definitely not, Nihilius is in the top 10 of most powerful mortal force users ever), she was a more complex and, in my humble opinion, cooler character. Her ideals of existentialism and the way she portrayed everything, it was beautiful.
These are generic Sith from the original KOTOR during an encounter on Manaan. You could spec the player character as a Marauder in KOTOR 2 as one of the available prestige classes (Sith Lord and Sith Assassin were the other options) and you fought several NPC Marauders in the Trayus Academy on your way to Sion/Traya at the end. As mentioned, the look is unmistakably based in the SWTOR version of the Marauder.
Yeah, I played both KOTOR games and played through all character stories and raid content from the first few years of SWTOR. You aren’t as special as you think. The fact that the look is taken from SWTOR is not the point.
My original point was that the Assassin and Marauder both first appeared in KOTOR 2, not SWTOR. The SWTOR versions of those characters are based off of KOTOR 2. So you can’t say they are definitively from SWTOR. They existed years before SWTOR was even in development.
Canon version of Revan was set in The Old Republic MMO storyline. Revan took the light side male path in the original KOTOR. Picture attached. However, it is a bit like saying Anakin was a light side Jedi. Revan was both depending on which point in his story you are choosing. Revan was a light side Jedi. Darth Revan was a dark side Sith. So you could have both in the GOH if you wanted.
The other interesting idea comes from the SWTOR storyline. After both KOTOR games, Revan and the Exile located the remnants of the original Sith Empire in the unknown regions of the galaxy and confronted its seemingly immortal Emperor. It did not go well. The Exile was killed and Revan ended up in a form of suspended animation while the Emperor sort of fed off of his Force connection and probed his mind for information about the Republic and its weaknesses. Revan used the connection to sow doubt in the Emperor and delay his plans to invade the Republic. Revan was eventually freed via player characters in a light side raid in The Old Republic. He later fought with dark side player characters in a similar raid.
This part of the story set Revan up as a sort of balanced character who used elements of both the light and dark. I think this is the version of Revan we should get, one who has synergies with both Jedi and Sith. It would give him a unique set of skills and potentially make him useful for more team compositions while staying true to the character.